Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-06 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, at 16:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-06 at 16:21 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> Most of issues with armel packages are about libatomic link >> time requirements, and about applications that hardcode armv7 >> or vfp instruction extensions. > > Code that h

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Tue, 2024-08-06 at 16:21 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > I believe the builds are all done on arm64 hardware, and the table > lists the same issue for available hardware on armel, armhf and arm64. > > There are a few instructions that armel binaries can use that > are missing on armv8 hardware (c

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-06 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, at 13:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, 2024-08-06 at 13:03 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: >> > It's certainly not easy to determine the actual usage statistics, but as >> > long as there >> > is a considerable user base, I think dropping support for hardware because

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Hector, On Tue, 2024-08-06 at 13:03 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > > It's certainly not easy to determine the actual usage statistics, but as > > long as there > > is a considerable user base, I think dropping support for hardware because > > it's old > > doesn't sound right to me. > > The main

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-06 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Adrian, On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 at 09:39, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Should Debian drop armel from the upcoming Debian release? > > While I understand the reasoning behind it, also having read Arnd's mail, I > don't > understand why these decisions rarely consider the environment and