fuse control on raspPi

2021-09-07 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:46:22 +0300 Reco wrote: >>IMO that's expected from fuse. But even root couldn't chown. I don't recall this difficulty with raspberryOS before. Do you mean that fuse is not correctable? \ What woukd happen if I removed the 'pi' user account? This is why I started a ne

Re: Replacement for raspPi

2021-09-07 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:46:22 +0300 Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >>On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something >>> more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does >>> this translate to th

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Pete Batard
On 2021.09.07 18:36, lkcl wrote: On September 7, 2021 4:16:27 PM UTC, Pete Batard wrote: And my point is that, since we are dealing with non free systems, it makes little difference whether the non-free blobs reside in an EEPROM or on boot media. it makes ALL the difference in the world.

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread lkcl
On September 7, 2021 4:16:27 PM UTC, Pete Batard wrote: >And my point is that, since we are dealing with non free systems, it >makes little difference whether the non-free blobs reside in an EEPROM >or on boot media. it makes ALL the difference in the world. not only is it deeply unethical

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Pete Batard
On 2021.09.07 15:55, Reco wrote: It's illogical, but still - as long as the device has non-modifiable firmware it's considered good, proper and "free". If said firmware can be modified (as in - reflashed in EEPROM), or worse - the device requires firmware to be uploaded on it at every poweron - o

Re: Replacement for raspPi

2021-09-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > G'day > > I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 > H64B? > > I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something > more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Reco
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 03:02:20PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > On 2021.09.07 13:31, Reco wrote: > > Yet there's a difference. Intel ME or AMD PSP do not require firmware to > > be written on a boot media, thus making the boot media redistributable > > and (other blobs excluded) - DFSG-compliant. >

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Pete Batard
On 2021.09.07 13:31, Reco wrote: Yet there's a difference. Intel ME or AMD PSP do not require firmware to be written on a boot media, thus making the boot media redistributable and (other blobs excluded) - DFSG-compliant. I disagree. The reason why the firmware needs to be written on boot medi

Re: Replacement for raspPi

2021-09-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something > more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this > translate to their SBC? I'd suggest [1], but I'm unsure about the comple

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Reco
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 11:00:29AM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > Hi Reco, > > On 2021.09.07 10:42, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 10:29:40AM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > > > Hi Gunnar, > > > > > > On 2021.09.06 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > Gene Heskett dijo [Sat, Sep 0

Replacement for raspPi

2021-09-07 Thread Keith Bainbridge
G'day I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B? I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this translate to their SBC? Thanks Background. I've just set up a new SDCard

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Reco, On 2021.09.07 10:42, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 10:29:40AM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: Hi Gunnar, On 2021.09.06 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Gene Heskett dijo [Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 09:43:07AM -0400]: (...) So I found my own solutions. So, debian-arm, please make up

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 10:29:40AM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > On 2021.09.06 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Gene Heskett dijo [Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 09:43:07AM -0400]: > > > (...) > > > So I found my own solutions. So, debian-arm, please make up your mind, do > > > you su

Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?

2021-09-07 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Gunnar, On 2021.09.06 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Gene Heskett dijo [Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 09:43:07AM -0400]: (...) So I found my own solutions. So, debian-arm, please make up your mind, do you support the pi's or do you NOT support the pi's? Debian has a very clear line set: We do _NOT_ ship

Re: Debian on Raspberry Pi and Pine* and probably ARM support in general (was Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B?)

2021-09-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 sep 21, 08:31:11, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On 2021-09-04, LinAdmin wrote: > > The unnamed decision makers of Debian some unknown time ago > > decided that Pi and Pine stuff won't be supported by Debian. > > I personally have added support in Debian for: > > Raspberry Pi 1 > Raspbe