Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Alan Corey wrote: > I haven't looked into it far enough, but why can't Linux use Android's > device drivers that already exist? Do the hardware manufacturers own > them? It doesn't seem like it should be that different from a video > card or a network card driver.

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Alan Corey
I haven't looked into it far enough, but why can't Linux use Android's device drivers that already exist? Do the hardware manufacturers own them? It doesn't seem like it should be that different from a video card or a network card driver. Google claims most of Android is open source. The pace m

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Alan Corey wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices Seems like all of these run a custom version of Linux that looks like it might be the Android version of Linux. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Alan Corey
There's a list of devices here that Ubuntu Touch runs on, including some Android emulators. Most of them old, they seem to want you to compile your own image and donate it back. Apparently you can submit a request on their mailing list. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices I'm not a big fan of

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Gert Wollny
Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2016, 19:04 +1000 schrieb Andrew McGlashan: > >  > Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and > Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. > Well, there's the Ubuntu Phone, not pure Debian, but probably the closest you can get on curr

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Alan Corey
Did you try alibaba.com re prices? Android does have a "Native" mode, mostly meaning not Java. Ubuntu Touch (I think) aims at replacing Android. I have Debian Kit running on a rooted phone. Not chrooted. But I think drivers for things like the GPU, display, GPS are still lacking. I run Tight

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Tim Small
On 07/04/16 16:02, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > outdated > Android is what I have to settle for unless I spring for a Google sold > device and prices / availability in AU aren't as good as they are in the US. You have a reasonable choice of devices with Cyanogenmod and/or AOSP etc. - updates are the

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more secure > than Debian, given their secure enclave stuff. Debian doesn't yet have > support for Secure Boot. SecureBoot has very little to do with security. More specifically, it's mostly useful to provide "security against the end user

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > So, no point in that, it is still under Android. I want "bare" metal > Debian thanks or some other trusted Linux, perhaps a BSD, but outdated > Android is what I have to settle for unless I spring for a Google sold > device and prices / a

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 7/04/2016 7:13 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and >> Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. > > If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more se

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread David White
On Wednesday 06 Apr 2016 8:53:33 PM pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hello ARM users, > > Suppose you have a software working in Debian which > is working on an ARM cpu. Is there an Android app > providing an environment where the given software > can work? Assuming no changes to this software of > co

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and > Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more secure than Debian, given their secure enclave stuff.

Re: a Debian executable on Android

2016-04-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 7/04/2016 3:07 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > There are several ways to have Debian under Android: > > https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. :( A. signature.asc Descripti