Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 06 June 2013, Maxime Ripard wrote: > So yes, Allwinner has an evil vendor tree (c), with a solution similar yet > inferior (because not generic enough) to the device tree, but they show > interest on going down the mainline road. Right, and of course there is nothing special about that

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Henrik Nordström
tor 2013-06-06 klockan 13:22 +0100 skrev luke.leighton: > idea: hook into devicetree gpio functions to allow script-fex gpio functions to gain access in a separate module? that sort of thing. No. Drop FEX from the kernel, use DT. There is no reason why the kernel shold care about the FEX format

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Henrik Nordström
tor 2013-06-06 klockan 13:19 +0100 skrev luke.leighton: > mass-volume tablet, mass-volume IPTV box. android OS, nothing else. Which still includes a number of possible configurations with different i2c, spi, usb etc devices connected on the board. Because Allwinner is not using mainline methods

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 07:28:10PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote: > I should also add that Allwinner not only talked to us already, but also > expressed interest in doing actual modern kernel development (like using > "recently" introduced kernel frameworks, like the clk framework). > > I've received

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Maxime Ripard
Hi everyone, On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:00:00AM -0700, Olof Johansson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton > > wrote: > >> augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here? > > > > Luke if you really want to fix

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Olof Johansson
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton wrote: >> augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here? > > Luke if you really want to fix this a good solution is to have > Allwinner join Linaro and provide an engineer to the Linar

Re: getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 11:38:52PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > their sheer overwhelming success provides us with mass-volume > ultra-low cost hardware. to not make an effort to accommodate them > would in this specific instance be a huge missed opportunity, > responsibility for w

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton wrote: > augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here? Luke if you really want to fix this a good solution is to have Allwinner join Linaro and provide an engineer to the Linaro effort. That engineer will get educated on the right way to do ke

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Olof Johansson
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 01:24:57PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: >> >> > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code to >> > DT (as it has been suggested in this t

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 01:24:57PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code to > > DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times already), as > > this is the only hardw

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 01:22:04PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Henrik Nordström > wrote: > > tor 2013-06-06 klockan 00:54 +0100 skrev luke.leighton: > > > >> > Not really the case. Actually the opposite. DT have this as well, and > >> > integrated in device probin

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 01:24:57PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code to > > DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times already), as > > this is the only hardw

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Tomasz Figa
On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:49:38 luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Luke, > > > > On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa > > > > wrote: > >> > I don't see any other solution here

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Vladimir Pantelic
luke.leighton wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Henrik Nordström wrote: tor 2013-06-06 klockan 00:54 +0100 skrev luke.leighton: > Not really the case. Actually the opposite. DT have this as well, and > integrated in device probing. Allwinner need to hack every driver used > to add their

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread luke.leighton
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > Luke, > > On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa > wrote: >> > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code >> > to DT (as it has been suggested in this

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Tomasz Figa
Luke, On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code > > to DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times > > already), as this is the only hardw

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread luke.leighton
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code to > DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times already), as > this is the only hardware description method supported by ARM Linux. i repeat again: please s

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread luke.leighton
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Henrik Nordström wrote: > tor 2013-06-06 klockan 00:54 +0100 skrev luke.leighton: > >> > Not really the case. Actually the opposite. DT have this as well, and >> > integrated in device probing. Allwinner need to hack every driver used >> > to add their gpio requests

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread luke.leighton
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Henrik Nordström wrote: > conditions. I don't know what you really mean here, only that it's not > "target market". mass-volume tablet, mass-volume IPTV box. android OS, nothing else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> so the point is: if anyone wishes me to propose to allwinner that > they convert over to devicetree, or any other proposal which involves > significant low-level changes to their working practices that could > potentially have a massive knock-on effect onto their > multi-million-dollar clients,

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Tomasz Figa
Hi Thomas, On Thursday 06 of June 2013 11:27:23 Thomas Petazzoni wrote: > Dear Tomasz Figa, > > On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 02:01:14 +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner > > code to DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times > > al

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 02:01:14AM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code to > DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times already), as > this is the only hardware description method supported by ARM Linux. Well, the serv

Re: getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Petazzoni
Hello, On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:48:27 -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > > fex covers *eevvveeerrthng* - right from flipping the > > multiplexing for all 3 SD/MMC cards so that you can pretend that SD0 > > is SD2 and you can specify *different* GPIOs for each to say which > > is > > Yo

Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Petazzoni
Dear Tomasz Figa, On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 02:01:14 +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner > code to DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times > already), as this is the only hardware description method supported > by ARM Linux. H

Re: getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

2013-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
On Jun 6, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > [ please do try to remove debian-release from replies - my mistake > please try not to propagage it, even though it may be too late!] > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux > wrote: > > eyy, allo russell