Re: debian multimedia now works

2021-12-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 25 déc. 2021 21:55:29 +0100, a ecrit: > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 25 déc. 2021 15:47:01 -0500, a ecrit: > > I don't know of a way to just install a text only Debian > > system, which would be wonderful to do. > > As documented, you can type a si

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mer. 29 déc. 2021 21:56:55 -0500, a ecrit: > Also with Slint, arguably the most accessible of them all, you have the choice > of various screen readers in console: > > espeakup (Console screen reader connecting espeak-ng and speakup) > fenrir (Modular, flexible and fast consol

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le jeu. 30 déc. 2021 10:32:24 +0100, a ecrit: > On 30/12/2021 08:10, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > You also have the same choice on other distributions such as Debian. > > > > Please don't fall in a distro war, we don't need that. > > Well Samue

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021, Jordan Livesey wrote: > Have you tried pressing the down arrow 5 times when on the boot menu of > Debian 11? Some how, pressing s no longer works for some people I am not aware of any bug report about this. The precise ISO image that was used needs to be told so we can check

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jordan Livesey, le jeu. 30 déc. 2021 19:16:39 +, a ecrit: > all I need to do is arrow down 5 times, Yes, but possibly Debian could introduce newer items. Alternatively you can use the end key since the speech entry is last. But really, s enter should really just work. If it doesn't it's a bug

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le jeu. 30 déc. 2021 20:50:07 +, a ecrit: > I read comments like "Press s and enter", That's all you'd need to know. > all I'm hearing is that Blind people need to know something about the > install media sighted people can be comfortably ignorant of. [...] > it arguably inc

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 10:12:43 -0500, a ecrit: > The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY installation Well, not "any". Again, that's where *discussion* needs to be done. And not here, but where such discussions belong: with the people who know ab

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > anyone have a link for joining the Debian Boot mailing list? Like all Debian lists: https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/ Samuel

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:11:14 -0500, a ecrit: > Obviously, we are more civilized on this email list, but it seems that > Debian-Boot is the wild and wooly frontier where new suggestions are met with > barbs and malice. ? No. Really no. The beep-at-installer-boot-menu took some e

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:25:59 -0500, a ecrit: > One way would be to have a text file pointing out the accessibility features - > perhaps similar to Didier Spaier's excellent slint-docs Perhaps we can just dump the wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility somewhere in the

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:40:39 -0500, a ecrit: > I thought your reluctance to go there was related to poor treatment > instead of what it most likely is, "too darned many things to > accomplish". No it's really that I cannot do everything in debian-accessibility longterm-wise. The

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le ven. 31 déc. 2021 18:50:07 +0100, a ecrit: > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 12:40:39 -0500, a ecrit: > > I thought your reluctance to go there was related to poor treatment > > instead of what it most likely is, "too darned many things to > >

Re: OT: adding a prefix to the Subject line?

2022-01-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Rich Morin, le dim. 02 janv. 2022 17:07:28 -0800, a ecrit: > Several of my email lists augment the Subject line with an identifying > prefix. I find this very useful in filtering, scanning, sorting, etc. Might > we be able to add a prefix such as "[DA] " or "[DAT] " to this list? We can ask fo

Re: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, David J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 03 janv. 2022 14:18:39 -0500, a ecrit: [-- Attachement #2: installer.tar.gz --] [-- Type: application/gzip, Encoding: base64, Size: 6,4M --] Could you do the same with a Buster installer, so we can spot the differences? Samuel

Re: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
One thing possibly worth noting is this: Jan 3 12:58:44 kernel: [1.769085] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0: ALC888: SKU not ready 0x0100 Jan 3 12:58:44 kernel: [1.769627] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig for ALC888: line_outs=4 (0x14/0x16/0x15/0x17/0x0) type:line Jan

Re: Fwd: Message with no Package: tag cannot be processed! (installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation)

2022-01-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 04 janv. 2022 15:01:23 -0500, a ecrit: > The message got rejected, but they sent me back the message, It didn't get rejected. The problem is that you have kept sub...@bugs.debian.org as recipient of the mail: > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <[9]n...@arrl.net> > To: "D

Re: creating and maintaining accessible Linux distros

2022-01-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Rich Morin, le jeu. 06 janv. 2022 01:07:38 -0800, a ecrit: > VM performance - QEMU apparently has pretty low overhead (because of JIT code > generation and such) It has low overhead when virtualization acceleration is available. Otherwise it's a large performance hit. The arm64 architectu

Re: Feedback on Debian Installer

2022-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le ven. 07 janv. 2022 09:31:02 +0100, a ecrit: > While I was installing 'Debian With Speech' with qemu option '--soundhw > all' to have multiple sound cards > - I have three sound cards detected but I have no clue which one is > about to be selected. The one which you have just

Re: Feedback on Debian Installer

2022-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le sam. 08 janv. 2022 18:34:14 +0100, a ecrit: > On 1/8/2022 3:10 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > - The infinit loop is way to quick to here what is said at every > > > iteration. > > > > Do you hear anything at all? > > Yes I do here

Re: Feedback on Debian Installer

2022-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le sam. 08 janv. 2022 18:56:39 +0100, a ecrit: > On 1/8/2022 6:46 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > john doe, le sam. 08 janv. 2022 18:34:14 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On 1/8/2022 3:10 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > - The infinit loop is way to qu

Re: Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 03 janv. 2022 20:47:17 -0500, a ecrit: > Here's the files from the Buster installation from /var/log/installer - > attached. Ok, thanks! So the "ALC888: SKU not ready 0x0100" message was already there at the time. What's new in bullseye is snd_hda_intel 000

Re: Bad Behavior by GRUB

2022-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 10 janv. 2022 15:15:07 -0500, a ecrit: > As soon as my computer boots into one of the operating systems, either Slint, > Debian, or Windows 10, GRUB adds an entry to the very top of my computer's > BIOS  SETUP changing the boot device boot order, I had never exper

Re: Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 16 janv. 2022 00:56:17 -0500, a ecrit: > I'm just trying to make sure I notify everyone that should know about this, > John. The way to do this is to keep 1002...@bugs.debian.org in the Cc of your mails. Otherwise the information you are providing is scattered in

Re: Jos Lemmens passed away on November 9, 2021

2022-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, > Los was the developer of eBook-speaker and daisy-player. For information, we have set up https://github.com/book-readers/daisy-player https://github.com/book-readers/ebook-speaker to continue the development of ebook-speaker and daisy-player. Contributions welcome! Samuel (unfortunate

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 14:44:06 -0500, a ecrit: > > On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: > > Hi, I am often doing testing of software like Android building and find > > that speech will stop during one of the processor heavy building processes. > > What I

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 23:49:45 -0600, a ecrit: >  Where in the service do I need to add the nice value?  Nick >Gawronski In the [Service] section. Samuel

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le ven. 11 févr. 2022 12:48:31 -0600, a ecrit: > Hi, In the service section there are lots of lines including an exec line > that points to the espeakup binary.  Do I add the nice value to that same > line or somewhere else? You just add it in a new line in the same section. Samue

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 07:15:56 +0100, a ecrit: > On 2/11/2022 8:05 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Nick Gawronski, le ven. 11 févr. 2022 12:48:31 -0600, a ecrit: > > > Hi, In the service section there are lots of lines including an exec line > > > that points to

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 23:49:45 -0600, a ecrit: > Hi, Yes it is both choppy speech and speakup reviewing commands being very > slow to respond and yes I get the freezing of speech if lots of text is sent > to the espeakup process like when catting a long document. Please avo

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le ven. 11 févr. 2022 08:02:51 -0500, a ecrit: > The bug is that a large input to espeakup causes the synthasizer to > stop speaking for a time measured in seconds. Depending on how much > data is sent into espeakup it could be one second or a multiple there > of. I have the same

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 18:49:10 -0600, a ecrit: > If I am using the default espeak voice Is this in english? (yes, details always matter. I have e.g. gotten reports on the czech voices crashing) > and cat the GPL version 3 the document will usually read most of the > way down then

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I can only repeat myself. Samuel Thibault, le ven. 31 déc. 2021 17:44:31 +0100, a ecrit: > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 10:12:43 -0500, a ecrit: > > The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY > > installation > > Well, not "any&

Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Again repeating myself. Please people do help me, otherwise I won't be able to help you. Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > > I understand recent installers for both OSX and Windows start talking > > automatically if there is a delay when they expect initial input from >

Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 20:15:13 -0500, a ecrit: > In osx 10.4 tiger I was told it was 10 seconds. Thanks! This looks quite small to me, I wonder if debian-boot will be fine with such quick enabling of speech synthesis. The good news is that syslinux already supports what we need, s

Having a d-i boot timeout for enabling speech?

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Users on the debian-accessibility mailing list reported that they found it very useful that the MacOS X installation image automatically starts a speech-enabled installer when the boot menu is left untouched for 10 seconds, so that blind people have really nothing more to do than plugging t

Re: espeakup not speaking screen review from speakup in Debian sid 20211215 while screen refreshing to quickly

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Digging back this issue, related also to a recent discussion on debian-accessibility Frank Carmickle wrote: > 0 5.14 and now 5.15. When I write a lot of output to a screen, > say dmesg without a pager, screen review stops working for a few > seconds. I know speakup is still responding beca

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le dim. 13 févr. 2022 16:48:03 -0600, a ecrit: > Is there a way that these fixes can be put into the next point > release of stable I can propose the fix for stable, yes. I will just wait for it to migrate to testing for some time, to watch for any unwanted side effect. S

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 13 févr. 2022 23:54:59 +0100, a ecrit: > Nick Gawronski, le dim. 13 févr. 2022 16:48:03 -0600, a ecrit: > > Is there a way that these fixes can be put into the next point > > release of stable > > I can propose the fix for stable, yes. I wil

orca 42 beta

2022-02-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 42 beta is up for tests in Debian experimental! Samuel

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > In the Bullseye packages of espeakup and espeak-ng with the english > voice Which version do you have *exactly*? Your mail quoted my repo https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/bullseye did you install that? > if you download the perl sources package and cat th

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > Is there a way to cat a file or run a program before catting the file > so that the line numbers can be written? man cat says -n >   The file stops speaking after the text perl itself under the > section dynamic loading. Is it always stopping there? Samuel

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le lun. 28 févr. 2022 14:26:13 -0600, a ecrit: > Hi, Yes it always stops at that section talking about dynamic loading Ok, so that's a problem with espeak-ng refusing too much text at the same time. I had a look and implemented something. Could you try to install https://

Re: Thanks so Much

2022-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le jeu. 24 févr. 2022 21:15:34 -0700, a ecrit: > I am curious what people use as a way to get to terminal applications in > a GUI desktop. You can run brltty within GUI terminals. Actually this is normally automatically done by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xbrlapi when the brltty-x11

Re: changing the scheduling and niceness of espeakup and related processes

2022-03-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 28 févr. 2022 22:43:04 -0600, a ecrit: > Yes that fix allowed me to cat the entire perl INSTALL file and hear it > from beginning to end. Good! > Is this fix possible to add to the normal upstream version? Sure, I was just waiting for your confirmation of the fix. It's no

Re: LibreFaso - introduction

2022-03-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, LibreFaso, le dim. 06 mars 2022 14:48:00 +, a ecrit: > I had a meeting with a local linguist who agreed to help us develop a Mooré > (and probably Bamanaan an Fulfulde) version of Common Voice, so actually > helping the kids develop a local language version of speech synthesis is > d

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: LibreFaso - introduction

2022-03-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
LibreFaso, le dim. 06 mars 2022 18:17:34 +, a ecrit: > I've begun parsing the documentation of espeak-ng but that's a lot of > information to process, and the meeting with ABPAM is supposed to be > tomorrow. > > Could you please just explain what are the lower-level contributions that > wo

Re: Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Simon McVittie wrote: > For instance, the bug that prompted me to open this one is a deadlock (or > something) in interacting with Pipewire's PulseAudio-compatible server, > which makes the game Minetest (among others) take a long time to start > and have no sound. That certainly makes it h

Re: Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le lun. 14 mars 2022 18:21:41 +, a ecrit: > "This bug particularly affects users with disabilities" > if we're using a form of wording similar to that, because what we're > interested in is whether a bug is *particularly* significant for users > of accessibility technologies

Re: Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le lun. 14 mars 2022 11:28:33 -0700, a ecrit: > I would vote for the phrase "special needs" instead of any form of disabled, > as it would seem more of a positive. I understand that point of view. But then people will add the tag, saying "I have a special need: I want to drive 3 screen

Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities

2022-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Devin, thanks for bringing accessibility questions in :) Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le lun. 21 mars 2022 23:37:03 +0100, a ecrit: > Again, not sur the DPL can have a crucial role about this, > unfortunately. I agree, a DPL cannot make current maintainers magically find time to work on issues

Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities

2022-03-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Devin Prater, le lun. 21 mars 2022 22:10:15 -0500, a ecrit: > As far as backports, my problem is enabling it. Normal desktop users probably > won't even know what that is, and the syntax is rather ugly, to me at least. Ok, that's one point that could be worked on: creating an easy way to e

Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities

2022-03-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le mar. 22 mars 2022 11:51:43 +0100, a ecrit: > If it adds a driver for your device, indeed, a backport is a good > idea. Note that sometimes supporting a new device does not actually require a completely new driver, only a small addition to recognize the USB device. That ca

Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT)?

2022-03-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As seen on #debian-a11y: larjona: we at press@ have received an email asking if Debian has Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT) available. VPAT is part of Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and amended by the Workforce Investment Act of 1998. Section 508 requires f

Re: building the android open source project on debian with accessibility tools

2022-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > I am not totally sure as to how to capture these errors as they happen > as once in the build environment by using source build/envsetup.sh the > script command does not work How does it not work? Does it output an error message? Does it not capture anything? scrip

Re: To all candidates: Debian and people with disabilities

2022-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Wouter Verhelst, le mar. 29 mars 2022 20:00:19 +0200, a ecrit: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Devin Prater, le lun. 21 mars 2022 22:10:15 -0500, a ecrit: > > > As far as backports, my problem is ena

Re: building the android open source project on debian with accessibility tools

2022-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mer. 30 mars 2022 02:05:12 -0500, a ecrit: > look at it and let me know what packages are not installed or setup > properly.  Nick Gawronski build/make/core/product_config.mk:239: error: Can not locate config makefile for product "mini_emulator_x86_64". That's very android-spe

Re: We need a new package for brltty 6.4.

2022-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
John J. Boyer, le dim. 03 avril 2022 02:40:11 -0500, a ecrit: > The current brlty does not do word wrap for contracted braille and it > sometimes stops working for mutt and lynx. From the brltty list it appears > that these problems have been fixed. Please provide a new package for brltty > 6.4.

Re: On Braille and Linux

2022-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Rich Morin, le mer. 30 mars 2022 21:29:48 -0700, a ecrit: > AFAIK, there isn't any braille screen input support for Linux, AIUI, you mean using a touch screen or touch pad to type Braille? I'm not aware of anything like that. > One major issue is that I'm not at all clear on how to deal w

Re: On Braille and Linux

2022-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Devin Prater, le dim. 03 avril 2022 12:02:59 -0500, a ecrit: > I'd work on getting Orca working on it first before working on a text > input method, Well "Orca" is mostly about Joanie alone, so I'd say avoid putting yet more load on her and work on a text input method. Samuel

Re: Having a d-i boot timeout for enabling speech?

2022-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Philip Hands, le lun. 28 févr. 2022 09:31:04 +0100, a ecrit: > One could have a very prominent visual notice at the start of the speech > install pointing out to people that if they want a normal install all > they need to do is hit Ctrl-Alt-DEL to restart the boot, and then make > any sort

Re: On Braille and Linux

2022-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 08:58:08 -0400, a ecrit: > Please excuse my ignorance. It seems to me that we don't have a native Linux > touch interface that is accessible, or did I totally miss something? Touch screens do work on Linux, they show up as a mouse. Samuel

Re: On Braille and Linux

2022-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 09:36:53 -0400, a ecrit: > > > On Apr 4, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 08:58:08 -0400, a ecrit: > >> Please excuse my ignorance. It seems to me that we don

Re: On Braille and Linux

2022-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 10:02:26 -0400, a ecrit: > Seems like a similar approach to how keystrokes get passed from the keyboard > to the screen reader as well as the other applications, should be put in > place? Concerning the protocol by itself (X or Wayland), there can be an ext

Improved choice selection in speech-enabled Debian installer

2022-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have improved the choice selection in the speech-enabled Debian installer, please give it a try: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso The idea is that one can now not only type the number followed by enter, but also select the answer with the arrow keys and press enter to v

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 17 avril 2022 20:51:04 +0200, a ecrit: > E [16/Apr/2022:15:11:58 +0200] [Job 12] Job submission timed out. > E [16/Apr/2022:15:11:58 +0200] [Job 12] Aborting job because it has no files. > E [16/Apr/2022:15:24:17 +0200] [CGI] ippfind (PID 19352) stopped with statu

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 18 avril 2022 18:02:09 +0200, a ecrit: > >> and refused to interact with to any key press. I had to force-reboot > >> it. > > > >Uh, perhaps there is a low-level communication problem, was that through > >USB or Ethernet? > > It is connected via USB. I had had issues wi

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 18 avril 2022 18:46:24 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 18.04.2022, 18:18 +0200: > >> >Uh, perhaps there is a low-level communication problem, was that through > >> >USB or Ethernet? > >> > >> It is connec

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 21 avril 2022 07:03:38 +, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 18.04.2022, 19:06 +0200: > >Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 18 avril 2022 18:46:24 +0200, a ecrit: > >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 18.04.2022, 18:18 +0200: > >> >>

Re: Please! I need a new brltty 6.4 package for Debian Bookworm.

2022-04-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
John J. Boyer, le jeu. 28 avril 2022 06:02:11 -0500, a ecrit: > If making a new package from the current brltty repository is too much work, > what can I do to solve these problems? The problem is not making a new package, but identifying what should be included in it. Please discuss with upstrea

Re: Please! I need a new brltty 6.4 package for Debian Bookworm.

2022-04-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
John J. Boyer, le jeu. 28 avril 2022 13:59:49 -0500, a ecrit: > I received a message from Dave Mielke. He says that nobody else is having the > problem with brltty becoming unresponsive. So this must be a Debian Bokworm > problem. Well, Debian doesn't patch brltty in any related way in bookworm

Re: Improved choice selection in speech-enabled Debian installer

2022-04-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 30 avril 2022 15:28:07 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, I went to that site but the mini.iso file is no longer there.  Does the > tmp directory get cleaned up after sometime as on future posts this would be > useful to mention? Ah, sorry, I happened to drop it, thinking it was an oldi

Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2022-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le lun. 02 mai 2022 13:52:36 +0200, a ecrit: > Nick is right, if you perform an install with speech output, there is no > interactive possibility to cancel the full disk wipe action in the text > frontend used for speech! > In the newt frontend or graphical installer there is the

Re: Some times no sound after login into Mate

2022-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le lun. 02 mai 2022 08:40:35 +0200, a ecrit: > sometimes, when I want to use the laptop without the headset, no sound > is there after login into Mate. To get sound back the only working > fix is to plugin the headset and plug it of again. > [...] > Is this another

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-05-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 05 mai 2022 11:01:40 +, a ecrit: > Hello Samuel > > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 25.04.2022, 1:00 +0200: > >Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 21 avril 2022 07:03:38 +, a ecrit: > >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 18.04.2022, 19:06 +0200: > >&g

Re: Braille embossing on Debian Bullseye

2022-05-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 05 mai 2022 12:03:05 +, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 05.05.2022, 13:22 +0200: > >(it could be useful to check whether Windows has troubles too). > > It works with Windows, Ok, so that's be a misunderstanding with the USB Linux driver

Re: Embossing 8 dot Braille

2022-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 05 mai 2022 18:51:23 +, a ecrit: > Now I am trying to print some "verbatim" text, ideally as 8 dot > computer braille: > > $ lp -d EverestV5 -o "LibLouis=de-de-comp8" myfile.txt Looking again at the Index driver, I don't find anything there that would implem

Re: Embossing 8 dot Braille

2022-05-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le mar. 10 mai 2022 10:06:58 +, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 08.05.2022, 18:07 +0200: > >Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 05 mai 2022 18:51:23 +, a ecrit: > >> Now I am trying to print some "verbatim" text, ideally as 8 dot > >>

Re: can't install grub on Acer ES1-131 netbook

2022-05-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, You should rather ask the debian-b...@lists.debian.org where there are people who are used to such kind of issues. Samuel VIPPotato, le lun. 16 mai 2022 20:48:18 +0200, a ecrit: > Hello, recently I wanted to dual boot windows 11 with ubuntu on my netbook. > The > distro doesn’t matter Be

Re: Marked For Autoremoval: How can we help? :)

2022-05-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le sam. 28 mai 2022 15:57:45 +, a ecrit: > On a somewhat related note, is there a way to stop getting e-mails > from Debian autoremoval, FTP master, bug tracking etc. without > affecting my subscription to this and other Debian mailing lists? These mails are not sent to this

Re: Marked For Autoremoval: How can we help? :)

2022-05-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cindy Sue Causey, le sam. 28 mai 2022 11:41:52 -0400, a ecrit: > Per Thomas, addressing that will affect about a zillion packages > beyond those from Accessibility. Yes, it's really not specific to accessibility, basically all packages got the mail because of a script that got overzealous. That i

Re: Marked For Autoremoval: How can we help? :)

2022-05-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le sam. 28 mai 2022 11:24:37 -0700, a ecrit: > Meanwhile will these also be removed from Debian SID, No, a package is never removed from SID unless the maintainer really asks for it. Samuel

Re: Liblouis CVE's in stretch

2022-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Andreas Rönnquist, le lun. 30 mai 2022 13:10:37 +0200, a ecrit: > I am looking at fixing CVE-2022-26981 [1] in Stretch, This CVE is about table compilation. Tables are basically never coming from outside sources, so this is not really a security issue, I dont think we want to spend time on

Re: Liblouis CVE's in stretch

2022-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 30 mai 2022 14:34:08 +0200, a ecrit: > Andreas Rönnquist, le lun. 30 mai 2022 13:10:37 +0200, a ecrit: > > Also - I am looking at fixing CVE-2018-17294 [3], > > This one however is about input indeed. Perhaps it'd be worth checking > against the

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-06-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, LibreFaso, le mer. 15 juin 2022 20:54:36 +, a ecrit: > There are many softwares in the Debian-accessibility category, should I > install them all ?I don't want to clutter the computers nor confuse the kids, > they use NVDA and JAWS but never had a Debian machine before. Among the pac

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-06-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It seems your mailer ciphered your mail, even if debian-accessibility was in the recipients :/ Keeping your complete text here, so debian-accessibility people can read it: LibreFaso, le dim. 19 juin 2022 19:07:35 +, a ecrit: > Thanks. > Though, I tried and I don't really understand :

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-06-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
es > "accessibility" nor "accessibility-braille" nor "accessibility-Braille", for > example... > > > > --- Original Message --- > On Saturday, June 18th, 2022 at 2:03 AM, Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > > > Hello, &g

Re: which desktop is more accessible in debian

2022-06-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Roberto Burceni, le mer. 29 juin 2022 14:03:38 +0200, a ecrit: > Which is the more accessible desktop at this momen between mate xlqt and > gnome? We rather usually recommend mate. Samuel

Orca 43 alpha in experimental

2022-07-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 43 alpha has landed in experimental, tests welcome, and please report bugs to the orca-l...@gnome.org mailing list! Samuel

at-spi2-core 2.45 alpha in experimental

2022-07-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The atspi stack packaging is getting simplified, at-spi2-atk and atk have been merged into at-spi2-core. I have uploaded the result in experimental. I have compared the resulting binary packages, but it would probably be useful for people to check that it works for them. Samuel

Re: pinfo replaced info-stnd

2022-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le lun. 11 juil. 2022 02:08:52 -0400, a ecrit: > I wouldn't even use pinfo if the info-stnd package were still > available in debian. I don't understand: the info package is still available in Debian. Samuel

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le sam. 16 juil. 2022 19:42:46 +0200, a ecrit: > On 7/15/2022 10:27 PM, LibreFaso wrote: > > Ok, so I installed a few laptops. > > > > But I notice that neither Grub not the login page seem to be accessible, > > that may be a problem if the kids are to use the computers alone. >

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 18 juil. 2022 02:02:05 +0200, a ecrit: > I just uploaded an ISO with it, for who has some time to kill: > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/ Can you please just stop this kind of advertisement coming out of the blue? Samuel

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 18 juil. 2022 02:02:05 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 18/07/2022 à 00:47, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > I guess he means the lightdm login page? Normally if the system was > > installed with speech/braille enabled, orca is enabled on the login page > > as well. O

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 18 juil. 2022 12:33:51 +0200, a ecrit: > > I concur with Samuel, using your e-mail address to promote yourself is > > more than enough. > > No worries, I will just unsubscribe now. There is no need to unsubscribe, you just need to refrain from gratuitous advertisement. Sam

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 18 juil. 2022 14:00:55 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 18/07/2022 à 12:48, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > There is no need to unsubscribe, you just need to refrain from > > gratuitous advertisement. > > So informing about external projects, even if free as in free

Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 18 juil. 2022 10:27:19 -0400, a ecrit: > Didier's email was just information, and I do not see any recent emails from > him mentioning Slint, He keeps repeating it on the list, it's not that often, but it's often enough that in the end it becomes tedious. I'm not sending

Re: OT, Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I'm sorry I have overreacted. D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Didier wrote: > > Le 18/07/2022 à 00:47, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > > I guess he means the lightdm login page?  Normally if the system was > > > installed with speech/braille enabled, orca is en

Re: OT, Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 18 juil. 2022 13:10:52 -0400, a ecrit: > Didier has helped with bugs that were mentioned here on the list affecting > upstream projects. That's certainly in line with the stated Project Goals. Yes, sure, and this is very welcome. But cooperation doesn't mean drivi

Re: OT, Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 18 juil. 2022 14:19:11 -0400, a ecrit: > > Correct, but probably it depends on the greeter in use. > > For the GTK greeter it's F4 > > I just uploaded an ISO with it, for who has some time to kill: > > [2]https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/ > > In other word

Re: OT, Re: Which softwares to install ?

2022-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel wrote: > That being said, again: I have clearly overreacted here, since Didier > hasn't been doing so very often lately, I'm sorry for that. Can we > please avoid a drama? D.J.J. Ring,wrote: > But Didier isn't doing this 'very often lately'. That's *exactly* what I wrote above. Again, can

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