Re: Audio problems with Debian, speech output and the latest VMware Workstation release :-(

2020-06-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 05 juin 2020 15:09:58 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 05.06.2020 um 12:36 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 05 juin 2020 12:08:24 +0200, a ecrit: > > > speech-dispatcher 0.9.0-5+deb10u1 > > > speech-dis

Re: Problem Installing Debian

2020-06-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le sam. 06 juin 2020 08:24:32 +0200, a ecrit: > On 6/5/2020 11:56 PM, Analis Dannen wrote: > > Orca will not respond when I try to navigate the installer. It > > simply says the name of the program and that is about it. AIUI, you are trying to install Debian from the live CD. A

Re: Larger Console Fonts

2020-07-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 06 juil. 2020 10:03:27 -0400, a ecrit: > Is there a larger size font? No. This has been requested already https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595696 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=816111 But we are still waiting for somebody to p

Re: Can't start lightdm.

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org, le jeu. 16 juil. 2020 18:23:05 -0500, a ecrit: > This afternoon there was a momentary power failure. My UPS failed also. After > rebooting I got the message Screen not in text mode. Only tty7 is affected. Which means it's only brltty which is running, and orca is no

Re: Installation Issue

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Vlad Dragomir, le mar. 14 juil. 2020 21:11:59 +0200, a ecrit: > First I'd like to apologise for asking this here. It's not strictly related > to accessibility, but since I'm using the accessible Speakup driven > installer, I thought it might be easier for members of this list to guide me

Re: problem with enabling orca in newest debian

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nsoft the Rapper oficjalnie, le mer. 15 juil. 2020 19:53:21 +0200, a ecrit: > i decided to install debian on it. > I installed it normally, and when it booted, i logged in. > On login screen, i am able to hear orca, but it don't wanna talk after logging > in. Which version of Debian did yo

Re: Debian ISO Image with espeak

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Csaba, le mar. 14 juil. 2020 04:53:38 +0200, a ecrit: > I would like to download the standard Debian Live DVD image. How can I > install the espeak package correctly within chroot? I don't know, since it's only on the TODO-list of debian-accessibility for now. Better ask the debian live te

Re: problem with enabling orca in newest debian

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adri Orjales, le sam. 18 juil. 2020 19:22:49 +0200, a ecrit: > Try disabling pulseaudio, as specified on debian accessibility page > [1]https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility Actually pulseaudio shouldn't be posing a problem in that use case (and it does indeed not, see him saying that at login scr

Re: problem with enabling orca in newest debian

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adri Orjales, le sam. 18 juil. 2020 19:43:01 +0200, a ecrit: > Orca talks in the login screen, but if oulseaudio is rubning, when you log in, > orca becomes silent. I am not getting such issue. Is the lightdm-started pulseaudio still running in that case? (that said, in my tests it is, but that is

Re: debian 9 gnome

2020-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le sam. 18 juil. 2020 22:45:29 +0200, a ecrit: > yes i no debian 9 are old. but seems gnome-terminal are inaccessible with > orca? AFAIK, gnome-terminal really is accessible with orca. Samuel

Re: Debian ISO Image with espeak

2020-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Csaba, le mar. 21 juil. 2020 12:42:22 +0200, a ecrit: > I only want to modify the live iso image to install espeak for myself. > I want to make "my own live dvd with speaking enabled at boot". How > can I install correctly espeak within the chroot of > "filesystem.squashfs in this case"? I don't k

Re: debian speech-dispatcher

2020-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, le lun. 03 août 2020 11:11:51 +0200, a ecrit: > i have installed debian mate via apt not with the debian installer. seems i > have to setup speech-dispatcher as a user service like this: systemctl --user > enable speech-dispatcher > but it failed with > unit speech dispatch

Re: debian speech-dispatcher

2020-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le mer. 05 août 2020 04:23:13 +0200, a ecrit: > so why orca dont detect it? No idea, it's supposed to just work. For a start, check that spd-say hello works or not. Then check for errors in the log files of /run/user/$EUID/speech-dispatcher/log Samuel

Re: debian speech-dispatcher

2020-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le dim. 09 août 2020 12:50:40 -0400, a ecrit: > As a user, you need to run spd-conf. That shouldn't be needed nowadays: the default configuration includes all available modules, and one can choose among them from the Orca interface. Samuel

Fwd: Do not install Orca 3.36.4; wait for Orca 3.36.5 (just released)]

2020-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As reported by upstream, do not upgrade to orca 3.36.4-1. I have filed a grave bug to prevent that version from entering testing, waiting for 3.36.5-1 to fix it. Samuel - Forwarded message from Joanmarie Diggs - From: Joanmarie Diggs To: orca-list Subject: [orca-list] Do not

Re: debian speakers selection bug

2020-08-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le ven. 14 août 2020 19:26:48 -0400, a ecrit: > You can install on any usb device you like but you must have the usb > speakers disconnected and a traditional speaker set plugged into the > system for the system to talk at all after first boot. I tried in qemu with a usb aud

Re: Braille indications of indentation in python

2020-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, John J. Boyer, le ven. 21 août 2020 06:15:03 -0500, a ecrit: > Is there a way to get an indication of Python indentation on a Braille > display. Please avoid posting the same question separately on different lists. Asking the question on several lists at the same time can increase the lik

Re: the default destination of Speech-dispatcher logs

2020-09-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Väinö Rihti, le mar. 08 sept. 2020 14:02:58 +0300, a ecrit: > what is the default destination of Speech-dispatcher log files in Debian? In > /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf there is the following line: > > LogDir default > > But what is this default directory on Debian? The same as o

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Halim Sahin, le lun. 14 sept. 2020 10:29:15 +0200, a ecrit: > Now I tried to use kvm to install a debian buster vm. > > qemu-system-x86_64 -m 4G -usb -usbdevice braille -cdrom debian...netinst.iso > . > > qemu starts up and info usb in qemu console displays a braille device but > noth

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit: > How does this work $WINDOWID is this an environment variable? It should be when you are running under X. > $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it? How are you running kvm? In the console? In X? In Wayland? > Should your

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 08:13:37 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 15.09.20 um 10:38 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > > $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it? > > > > How are you running kvm? In

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 10:05:57 +0200, a ecrit: > Maybe its a problem with brltty 6.0 orca libbrlapi on the host? I guess orca works fine? > Does brlapi write a log where we can see if qemu connects to brltty or not? You can add server in the log-level parameter of brltty.conf yes.

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 11:20:21 +0200, a ecrit: > yes, orca works fine. > what about xbrlapi? > Does qemu use it? Oh, you indeed need to have xbrlapi running for getting brltty to correctly switch between the qemu output and the orca output, yes. Samuel

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 12:48:16 +0200, a ecrit: > Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 11:20:21 +0200, a ecrit: > > yes, orca works fine. > > what about xbrlapi? > > Does qemu use it? > > Oh, you indeed need to have xbrlapi running for getting brltty to

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 14:14:01 +0200, a ecrit: > I.ll try that setup again with a fresh ubuntu 20.04 setup. > My machine was updated from 18.04. > Alls seems working well and there is a log entry when qemu start in > brltty.log but I can't get any output on the host. > I se nothing wro

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphaël POITEVIN, le lun. 05 oct. 2020 17:48:58 +0200, a ecrit: > I'm trying to run an old embosser, a basic-d V4 which have only parallel > port. I connected it behind an USB parallel converter which is detected: > /dev/usb/lp0. > > In cups interface localhost:631 I don't find any way to choose t

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphaël POITEVIN, le mar. 06 oct. 2020 00:42:06 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > It should be, yes. When you go to the administration tab, add a printer, > > get the list of connections, what choices do you have? > > * Serial port #1 That could be it (yes it lo

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 06 oct. 2020 01:03:32 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 06/10/2020 à 00:42, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : > > CUPS-BRF (Virtual BRF Braille Printer) > > I'd try that. No, it's a virtual braille printer, it will only create a .brf file. Samuel

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le lun. 05 oct. 2020 22:00:20 -0400, a ecrit: > So, Apple improved cups. Apple didn't. cups-filters is a community-driven project. > Likely go with: > CUPS-BRF (Virtual BRF Braille Printer Really, no :) that is a virtual printer that produces a brf file. Samuel

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphaël POITEVIN, le mar. 06 oct. 2020 10:17:30 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > That could be it (yes it looks like a bad naming but I wouldn't be so > > surprised that it'd be it). You could try to unplug the adaptor and > > restart cups to check whet

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le ven. 09 oct. 2020 19:30:06 +0200, a ecrit: > well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. > > running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. As I mentioned previously, please send the whole content from the brltty log inside the guest, for us to look

Re: Embosser on USB parallel

2020-10-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphaël POITEVIN, le mer. 14 oct. 2020 17:29:35 +0200, a ecrit: > Here one log line after running a odt print: > E [14/Oct/2020:17:22:57 +0200] [Job 32] unsupported control character in > BRF file How did you start the print? Samuel

brltty 6.1 in Debian

2020-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It took a very long time to get out of ftpmaster's new queue, but at last brltty 6.1 is available in unstable, and soon in testing, in time for the future debian 11. Samuel

Re: Fully automated installation using PXE and preseed file

2020-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le ven. 13 nov. 2020 09:03:41 +0100, a ecrit: > On the wiki, I see that I should be able to use 'speakup.synth=soft' as > kernel boot parameter. > > I'm not able to get it working, am I missing something? That should be enough, yes, it's the only difference between the graphical

Re: Fully automated installation using PXE and preseed file

2020-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 13 nov. 2020 13:27:11 +0100, a ecrit: > The tftp root directory ('text') is taken from the pkg > 'debian-installer-10-netboot-amd64'. You need to use the gtk variant of the netboot image. For size contraints, the non-gtk variant does not contain the speech synthesis. Samuel

Re: Fully automated installation using PXE and preseed file

2020-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 13 nov. 2020 18:16:09 +0100, a ecrit: > On 11/13/2020 1:52 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > john doe, le ven. 13 nov. 2020 13:27:11 +0100, a ecrit: > > > The tftp root directory ('text') is taken from the pkg > > > 'debian-installer-10-ne

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye Alpha 3 release

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le dim. 06 déc. 2020 17:37:15 +0100, a ecrit: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the third alpha > release of the installer for Debian 11 "Bullseye". > > Improvements in this release > > [...] > * brltty: > - Improve ha

Re: [BRLTTY] 6.2 has been released.

2020-12-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, brltty 6.2 has landed in unstable :) Samuel Dave Mielke, le mer. 23 déc. 2020 08:11:31 -0500, a ecrit: > Release 6.2 of brltty has been released. A summary of it's most important > changes is as follows: > > General changes: >Problems related to the system waking up from suspend have

Re: Magnus incorrect in Debian Magnifiers

2021-01-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tim Pierce, le sam. 30 janv. 2021 02:53:51 +, a ecrit: > [1]https://blends.debian.org/accessibility/tasks/mag > > This page lists magnifiers that work under Debian > > The entry for Magnus has accidentally described some kind of mathematical > algorithm program also called Magnus. >

Re: orca

2021-01-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, le dim. 31 janv. 2021 10:18:24 +0100, a ecrit: > seems orca in bullseye are broken. it cant start at all I am not getting any issue. Can you run it so orca --debug-file /tmp/log.txt and send us the /tmp/log.txt file so we can check what is happening? Samuel

Re: lightdm accessibility

2021-01-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, le dim. 31 janv. 2021 21:32:14 +0100, a ecrit: > how old are the info here > [1]https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility > e.g the accessibility info about lightdm are not for newer debian e.g bullseye AFAIK they are up to date. For instance the lightdm paragraph is still acc

Re: lightdm accessibility

2021-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, le lun. 01 févr. 2021 14:16:49 +0100, a ecrit: > yes but samuel in debian bullseye you dont have the path /etc/xdg/lightdm You can create it. I updated the wiki page to say so. Samuel

Re: bug 913978: gnome-control-center is not accessible with Orca screenreader

2021-02-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Gevers, le sam. 06 févr. 2021 10:10:33 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:15:20 +0200 Paul Gevers wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:16:05 -0700 Tassia Camoes Araujo > > wrote: > > > From what I could understand, it is unlikely this will be fixed before > > > Buster release. So

Orca 40.beta in experimental

2021-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have pushed the Orca 40.beta release to the experimental repository, for people to easily try it out. There is also at-spi2-core 3.39.90.1, which provides an initial support for Orca shortcuts in gtk4 applications. Samuel

Re: Orca 40.beta in experimental

2021-02-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le mar. 23 févr. 2021 19:02:57 +0100, a ecrit: > how to install the new at-spi2? After adding the experimental source by adding this line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main you can then run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install at-s

Re: frobtads for debian

2021-03-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le jeu. 11 mars 2021 05:55:32 -0500, a ecrit: > The frobtads package is what those playing games on console use to play tads > games. Debian already has gargoyle but is missing frobtads. Debian has > frotz and glulxe available for console users but not frobtads. Would it b

Re: software speech works with vmware player 16 but not after installation of Debian testing

2021-03-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le lun. 15 mars 2021 23:11:26 -0500, a ecrit: > I however get no software speech either in the mate desktop or in the > console I don't have vmware player, so I cannot test this myself. When I try it with qemu I do get speech both during installation and in the installed sy

Re: software speech works with vmware player 16 but not after installation of Debian testing

2021-03-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mar. 16 mars 2021 15:47:49 -0500, a ecrit: > If I install the ssh server task along with the rest of the system > during the installation on the host system should I be able to ssh into the > guest with the networking in vmware player set to nat? That's supposed to work yes. >

Re: software speech works with vmware player 16 but not after installation of Debian testing

2021-03-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le mar. 16 mars 2021 21:32:51 -0500, a ecrit: > [?2004hroot@debian641:~# amixer -c 0 contents Could you pass scontents rather than contents? Samuel

Re: software speech works with vmware player 16 but not after installation of Debian testing

2021-03-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mer. 17 mars 2021 19:34:24 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, Here is that output.  Nick Gawronski Ok, it doesn't seem muted... What does cat /etc/default/espeakup have to say? Samuel

Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: alsa-utils Version: 1.2.4-1 Hello, A user reports that although he has sound during installation (using speech synthesis), there is no sound at reboot into the installed system, although it looks like the audio levels seem correct. Any idea? Samuel Nick Gawronski, le mer. 17 mars 2021

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Please keep the bug in Cc, so the maintainers of the correspoding package get the additional information too. john doe, le dim. 21 mars 2021 19:38:43 +0100, a ecrit: > On 3/21/2021 7:02 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > A user reports that although he has sound during installati

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 13:45:37 -0500, a ecrit: > I tried this with both a debian desktop environment and just the > standard system utilities with the same result. So this rules out the orca question indeed. Is pulseaudio running on the installed system? (Normally that shouldn't be

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 15:07:41 -0500, a ecrit: > pulseaudio is running Pulseaudio is running? That's odd, I don't see how that could happen. So you just boot the system, log-in through ssh, and there pulseaudio is already running without having started anything? (no graphical sessio

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 15:36:16 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, I am not sure if any desktop login screen is active as no sound is > played just the boot beep from vmware player.  After the system boots I just > login using ssh to check if things are running and this is how I found that > espea

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 15:58:37 -0500, a ecrit: >     868 ?    Sl 0:00  \_ lightdm --session-child 16 19 >     902 ?    Ssl    0:01  |   \_ /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter >     903 ?    Sl 0:00  |   \_ /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/orca > --replace --no-setup --disa

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 16:58:00 -0500, a ecrit: > > pactl info > Connection failure: Connection refused > pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused Ah, bummer, could you run instead sudo -u lightdm bash -c 'XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$UID pa-info' ? Thanks, Samuel

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 23 mars 2021 23:11:13 +0100, a ecrit: > Le 23/03/2021 à 22:57, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > Nick Gawronski, le dim. 21 mars 2021 16:58:00 -0500, a ecrit: > > > > pactl info > > > Connection failure: Connection

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 pulseaudio Hello, Nick Gawronski, le mar. 23 mars 2021 18:28:43 -0500, a ecrit: > Sink #0 >     State: RUNNING >     Name: alsa_output.pci-_02_02.0.analog-stereo >     Description: ES1371/ES1373 / Creative Labs CT2518 (Audio PCI > 64V/128/5200 / Creative CT4810/CT5803/CT5

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 24 mars 2021 00:41:33 +0100, a ecrit: > Nick Gawronski, le mar. 23 mars 2021 18:28:43 -0500, a ecrit: > > Sink #0 [...] > >     Volume: front-left: 2928 /   4% / -80.99 dB,   front-right: 2928 /   4% > > / -80.99 dB > >         balance 0.00

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mar. 23 mars 2021 19:35:16 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, That worked orca and espeakup are now talking normally. Ok, good. > Is there a way to find out why this was setup on my newly installed > virtual machine? Pulseaudio people will know better :) > Even without a desktop installed

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mar. 23 mars 2021 20:59:12 -0500, a ecrit: > Is there a way to have this information fixed in new installs As I said, for the desktop case it is to be seen with pulseaudio people, that's where the volume is low. > as even with no desktop I get no speech? For that case, I need

Re: dos emulators bug

2021-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le mar. 23 mars 2021 22:09:51 -0400, a ecrit: > Why do dosemu and dosbox packages both fail on startup with mouse errors and > dosemu complains about sdl? Better ask dosemu people. Samuel

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mer. 24 mars 2021 16:55:53 -0500, a ecrit: > [?2004hroot@debian642:~# ps axf Ok, no desktop and thus no pulseaudio in the way. > [?2004hroot@debian642:~# amixer -c 0 scontents > [?2004l > Simple mixer control 'Master',0 >   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined >  

Re: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation

2021-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mer. 24 mars 2021 19:06:26 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, Setting it to %100 worked but the volume is still lower on the system Try to also call amixer -c 0 set Master 100% to also set the master volume in addition to PCM. > Why is this as using the speakup volume keys did not make an

Re: No BRLTTY with Bulseeye RC3

2021-03-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 25 mars 2021 22:16:07 +0100, a ecrit: > 3. The braille display was not delected after 20 seconds, so I pressed down > and return to select the textual install. Alas, bootloaders don't have braille drivers, and probably won't in medium term, so yes at that st

Re: No BRLTTY with Bulseeye RC3

2021-03-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 25 mars 2021 22:45:19 +0100, a ecrit: > Alas, bootloaders don't have braille drivers, and probably won't in > medium term, so yes at that step you have to type return. Note that you > don't actually need to select the textual install, even graphic

Re: Bug#678065: debian-cd: Include brltty and espeakup in netinst

2021-03-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
tyre, le mar. 26 juin 2012 17:28:35 +0100, a ecrit: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 01:20:57PM -0300, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Steve McIntyre, le Tue 26 Jun 2012 15:51:20 +0100, a écrit : > >> Looking at this, it adds another ~20MB: > >> ... > >> CD 1: GUESS_TOTAL i

Re: Bug#678065: debian-cd: Include brltty and espeakup in netinst

2021-03-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ahmed Hassan, le sam. 27 mars 2021 16:32:34 +, a ecrit: > Sorry to chime in here, but do any of  The CDs use BRLTTY 6.3. All bullseye images use brltty 6.3. > Also another thing which has been on my mind, why can't orca be integrated > into > the debian installer (obviously not for the netin

Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-03-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le mer. 24 mars 2021 20:57:57 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, Yes now that both volumes are at %100 the speakup volume controls work > as normal.  Should not the master and PCM be set to %100 by default after a > new installation? Not necessarily 100%, because that might be way too l

Re: Unable to get sound to work in the installer as well as a live environment

2021-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ahmed Hassan, le lun. 29 mars 2021 16:07:00 +0100, a ecrit: > After installing this, I proceed into the live environment. pressing "alt + > super(windows) + s" doesn't yield any results, but when opening terminal, and > typing "orca -s", the orca setup screen appears, but there is no sound.

Re: Unable to get sound to work in the installer as well as a live environment

2021-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ahmed Hassan, le mar. 30 mars 2021 12:59:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > >Does dmesg show that the kernel complains about a missing firmware? > >Perhaps you need to install firmware-intel-sound? > I am unsure how to check this. Send us the output of the dmesg command, and the output of dpkg

Re: Switching off monitor

2021-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 31 mars 2021 20:34:44 +0200, a ecrit: > I'm working on the console (TTY) and am using Tmux, hence neither xset nor > setterm work for me. You can probably use sudo bash -c "setterm -blank < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1" Samuel

Re: Switching off monitor

2021-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 31 mars 2021 20:39:36 +0200, a ecrit: > Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 31 mars 2021 20:34:44 +0200, a ecrit: > > I'm working on the console (TTY) and am using Tmux, hence neither xset nor > > setterm work for me. > > You can probably use > &

Re: Switching off monitor

2021-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 31 mars 2021 21:12:57 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 31.03.2021, 20:43 +0200: > >Samuel Thibault, le mer. 31 mars 2021 20:39:36 +0200, a ecrit: > >> Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 31 mars 2021 20:34:44 +0200, a ecrit: > >> > I'

Re: Unable to get sound to work in the installer as well as a live environment

2021-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 30 mars 2021 16:45:13 +0200, a ecrit: > Ahmed Hassan, le mar. 30 mars 2021 12:59:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > >Does dmesg show that the kernel complains about a missing firmware? > > >Perhaps you need to install firmware-intel-sound? > > I am unsure h

Debian installer arguments

2021-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Please do not just reply to an existing mail for a new topic, that prevents people from catching up with new questions. Ahmed Hassan, le mer. 31 mars 2021 16:01:38 +0100, a ecrit: > so I was successfully able to get brltty to connect to my orbit reader 20.  > I discovered this script:  > [2]https:

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le dim. 28 mars 2021 09:07:41 +0200, a ecrit: > It is always easier to lower down the volume than to increase it. [...] > If you require privacy during or after first boot, using headphone is > advised. But if we set the maximum volume, we might be just breaking the user's ears, which wi

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 16:24:02 -0500, a ecrit: > Why not just copy the installation volume settings over to the > installed system as this is what users would think would happen? See my previous mail: once you make espeakup control the card volume, you cannot tune it with a mixer a

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 16:39:50 -0500, a ecrit: > if the volume by default is set very low then the speakup > shortcuts have no use. That's exactly my point: I can make the speakup shortcut be able to just raise the volume to the maximum that the hardware supports. But then « you c

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 17:42:48 -0500, a ecrit: > So you are saying that when espeakup controls the speech alsa mixers > can not be used anymore Yes. More precisely, I mean that currently espeakup doesn't fully control the volume. I can make espeakup thoroughly control the volume, a

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 04 avril 2021 00:46:44 +0200, a ecrit: > if I do that [...], speakup's shortcuts for volume will be the only > way to change the volume. And speakup's volume granularity is not very fine-grain, so that's my concern and the question I ask: the gran

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 17:54:32 -0500, a ecrit: > Are you asking if there should be more numbers between 0 and 9 That's another way of asking the question yes. Samuel

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 19:21:12 -0500, a ecrit: > I like the alsa way to control what the maximum volume is for the > entire system and then allow applications to have their own volume > controls so you can have different volume settings for speech and > music. That would still work

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 19:15:45 -0500, a ecrit: > Would adding more values require editing the speakup source > code directly or could this be added in espeakup? Both would need to be modified. > Is there no way for the installer to detect what the espeakup volume > number is at th

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 04 avril 2021 02:42:54 +0200, a ecrit: > Mmm. Possibly we could use amixer and write that to some place where > alsa-utils can re-read it. Could you try the image on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso Samuel

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le sam. 03 avril 2021 22:38:58 -0500, a ecrit: > That installation without a graphical desktop came up to the text login > screen talking with espeakup running. So you mean that you didn't get the volume issue, while in the same conditions but with the non-patched image, you would

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 04 avril 2021 06:10:23 -0500, a ecrit: > One thing that was not carried across is > during the installation for testing I did set the volume using the speakup > shortcut keys to 9 and found that the volume was still at I think the > default was 5. Yes, that part is a bit mo

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 04 avril 2021 15:41:51 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, With the mini iso file you had me test what build target did you use > once the latest espeakup udeb was in the repository make build_netboot-gtk the result is then in dest/netboot/gtk/mini.iso > if I was interested in building

Re: Volume control on debian system? (Was: Bug#985666: alsa-utils: no sound after installation)

2021-04-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mar. 06 avril 2021 14:35:44 -0500, a ecrit: > I heard espeakup start talking but then it was cut off by > orca.  Is this something that is normal or could the fixes in espeakup have > fixed the orca volume settings? It could be it indeed... Which would make the bug reported to p

Re: issue with configuring a debian installation with debconf set to low priority both at the beginning and after the base system is installed

2021-04-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mar. 06 avril 2021 16:22:27 -0500, a ecrit: > How would I be able to submit further information on how to get the > proper information to someone so it could be looked into and get > fixed? You can report a bug against the debian-installer package. Sending what you sent in your

Bug#987171: ITP: libdumbtts -- Helper library for dumb speech synthesizers

2021-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org * Package name: libdumbtts Version : 0.3.2 Upstream Author : Bohdan R. Rau * URL : http://www.polip.com/files/ * License

Re: Existence of accessibility standards??????????

2021-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Owlett, le mer. 21 avril 2021 16:14:58 -0500, a ecrit: > Do _verifiable_ "accessibility standards" exist? There are automatic tests, but they are never enough, you always need an end-user test as well. > I wish to ask a publicly funded service some ATYPICAL questions. > When I submit thei

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-04-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le ven. 23 avril 2021 07:21:43 +0200, a ecrit: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first > release candidate of the installer for Debian 11 "Bullseye". And notably for this list: > * brltty: > - Updated to version 6.3 > - Update udev rules.

Re: MATE Terminal Emulator Accessibility: it won't let users scroll upwards to review

2021-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mer. 21 avril 2021 02:25:24 -0400, a ecrit: > Unless there is a way to make MATE Terminal Emulator more accessible, but I > don't think there is. With Braille is, you can use brltty to access it, by running: brltty -b ba -x as Samuel

Re: MATE Terminal Emulator Accessibility: it won't let users scroll upwards to review

2021-04-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le dim. 25 avril 2021 10:53:19 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 25/04/2021 à 10:38, Sebastian Humenda a écrit : > > Is there a way to silence Orca to prevent "double" screen reading? > > I'd try this: in the Orca preferences GUI, tab Speech, uncheck "enable > Speech" Yes, but with the per-appl

Re: MATE Terminal Emulator Accessibility: it won't let users scroll upwards to review

2021-04-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 25 avril 2021 12:13:32 +0200, a ecrit: > Hi Samuel > > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 25.04.2021, 11:00 +0200: > >Didier Spaier, le dim. 25 avril 2021 10:53:19 +0200, a ecrit: > >> Le 25/04/2021 à 10:38, Sebastian Humenda a écrit : > >> &g

Re: MATE Terminal Emulator Accessibility: it won't let users scroll upwards to review

2021-04-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 25 avril 2021 12:57:29 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 24.04.2021, 23:59 +0200: > >D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mer. 21 avril 2021 02:25:24 -0400, a ecrit: > >> Unless there is a way to make MATE Terminal Emulator more accessible, but I > &g

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 07 mai 2021 22:20:32 +0200, a ecrit: > > Am 23.04.2021 um 10:50 schrieb Samuel Thibault : > >> * espeakup: > >>- Carry over the alsa mixer levels into the installed system. > > I’ve installed two Bullseye systems with the

Re: Problems when using brltty in the terminal

2021-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Adding brl...@brltty.app since it's really not just a Debian issue. Christian Schoepplein, le sam. 08 mai 2021 16:20:35 +0200, a ecrit: > 2. Enabled speech-dispatcher support in /etc/brltty.conf. > 3. Edited the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xbrlapi and removed the "-s no" > parameter for t

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