Re: espeakup fails to install

2018-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le dim. 14 oct. 2018 16:50:08 +0100, a ecrit: > I removed the package with a view to reinstalling but > > invoke-rc.d: initscript espeakup, action "start" failed. Mmm, perhaps you just need to have the speakup_soft module loaded? I.e. just run modprobe speakup_soft before

mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I'm happy to announce that mbrola got free :) I have uploaded that new version to unstable. For now there are no free voices, so it's still in contrib, but some free voices will be available so we'll be able to put mbrola in main :) Samuel

Re: mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Devin Prater, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 07:39:13 -0500, a ecrit: > Will it have the ability to be integrated into eSpeak? It's the same mbrola, so it already works with espeak, yes. With the latest modifications of speech-dispatcher to be released soon, the list of voices available through the espeak-m

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:40:37 +0100, a ecrit: > Because packagers of Debian distribution created many many ARM 64 bit > packages, I would like to know, if Firefox havebeen compiled with > accessibility support, There is no reason why accessibility would have been disabled. > F

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:59:10 +0100, a ecrit: > Maybe, that thanksto Android lack of shared memory file creation or > pair of sockets communication issue, that Firefox can not work with > Orca because of it. But do other applications show up on Orca? Samuel

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:07:54 +0100, a ecrit: > Here is The output. > Running environment > FAIL: at-spi-bus-launcher is not running as user > FAIL: at-spi2-registryd is not running as user That's odd, you don't have these running? > FAIL: no session bus address in $DBUS_SESS

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:01:59 +0100, a ecrit: > Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:59:10 +0100, a ecrit: > > Maybe, that thanksto Android lack of shared memory file creation or > > pair of sockets communication issue, that Firefox can not work with > &g

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:59:44 +0100, a ecrit: >   well-known path > /root/.dbus/session-bus/6a68d6b78714411e945e0bfc6f29ea48-0 says > unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-trOMoamaIh,guid=5b37503569acf1466fbdb9145bd8570d So you'd try to do export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract

Re: mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 30 oct. 2018 11:29:05 -0400, a ecrit: > Do you have any recommendations for any natural sounding voices, especially > for > US English? Well, you can try the mbrola-us* voices. Samuel

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, (I reordered things a bit to make the story clearer for pulseaudio maintainers in Cc) Didier Spaier, le ven. 02 nov. 2018 01:13:09 +0100, a ecrit: > This message is an answer to the thread started by: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2018/10/msg0.html > > @Keith: If you

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Egon, le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 17:34:37 +0100, a ecrit: > I installed espeakup package. > I unable to find the espeakup voices in /usr/lib/espeakup-data (no > such directory). espeakup is not a speech synthesis, it's only a proxy between the in-kernel speakup screen reader and the espeak synthesis, wh

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 21:26:15 -0400, a ecrit: > I can't find a wiki to instruct a user how to get espeakup working. It's on http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility , like all other Debian accessibility documentation > Also a way of turning off espeak when running emacspeak would b

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 21:49:41 -0400, a ecrit: > If anyone has editing privileges for the accessibility debian page, Anybody can edit the wiki page, one just need to register an account. Samuel

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:32:41 +, a ecrit: > On 04/11/18 13:48, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On 04/11/2018 14:37, Keith Barrett wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 03/11/18 19:54, Didier Spaier wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I should have stated that this binary is a 64-bit one. > >

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:46:51 +, a ecrit: > On 04/11/18 18:36, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:32:41 +, a ecrit: > > > On 04/11/18 13:48, Didier Spaier wrote: > > > > On 04/11/2

Re: assertion while running Firefox on ARM 64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 15:43:27 +0100, a ecrit: > orca:8939): CRITICAL **: atspi_accessible_set_cache_mask: assertion > 'accessible == accessib > le->parent.app->root' failed > May be, that it is caused by The fact, that Irun all apps as root user and > algorithms are not

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 21:43:06 +0100, a ecrit: > The secret is to add The following lines to to /etc/profile > eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID > GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications > screen-re

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 22:49:20 +0100, a ecrit: > I do not know, if all three settings are needed  It would require some time > to try it out. Sure, I'm asking if you could do the test, since you are the one who has a system where you can test it :) > I know, that you are very b

Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2018-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The Debian 9.6 upgrade happened yesterday, and the 1:0.80-5+deb9u2 upgrade became available. Unfortunately it seems it is completely screwed up (see Bug#913453), so don't upgrade to it :/ I'm really sorry about that. In case you already have upgraded, in /lib/systemd/system/espeakup.servi

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2018-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le dim. 11 nov. 2018 19:47:04 +0100, a ecrit: > On 11/11/2018 6:05 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Why, vms is not an issue here I installed Stretch with Gnome flawlessly > with the option "install with speatch". > Not heavily tested though. > > > I guess

orca 3.31.1 uploaded to experimental

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It's now a bit old, but I have uploaded the 3.31.1 version of orca in Debian experimental, for people to give it a try and be able to report issues upstream without having to install orca master by hand. It should be available on the mirror next to you within half a dozen hours. Samuel

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 17:04:37 +0100, a ecrit: > I am loosing speech in the console using speakup after switching back from > the desktop. > To reproduce, log in to the desktop and make sure orca is working. > Then switch to one of the text consoles with control alt f4. > Resu

Re: espeak package problem (fwd)

2018-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
From: Linux for blind general discussion > I've got a problem with espeakup > I've installed it in debian. > Now I get an error code 5 every time I try to install or remove a package. > can you help me with this thing? > I don't want to reinstall the computer. Just to repeat my answer there: Cou

Brltty 5.6 in jessie-backports-sloppy

2018-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It was asked to have brltty available for Jessie, I have uploaded it to jessie-backports-sloppy. This means that for a Jessie system you now have the choice between the jessie-provided brltty 5.2, the stretch-backported-to-jessie brltty 5.4, and the buster-backported-to-jessie brltty 5.6. T

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, > On 19/11/2018 21:19, John G Heim wrote: > > What is the trick to getting speakup with software speech and orca to work > > at the same time. I have both debian stretch and ubuntu bionic systems and > > on both machines, I have to disable espeakup to get orca to work. Didier Spaier, le

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le lun. 19 nov. 2018 21:49:23 +, a ecrit: > I can't speak for the Debian Testing version of Firefox, but the > versions in Debian Unstable only suggest pulseaudio, Yes, but last time I tried, without pulseaudio sound doesn't work inside firefox. Unless using apulse as you de

Re: speakup crashes

2018-11-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le jeu. 20 sept. 2018 22:52:49 +0100, a ecrit: > Debian buster updated on 19th september. > > When switching from desktop to one of the consoles, speech is lost in the > console if orca is speaking at the time of changing to a command line. Just making sure that the informa

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 30 août 2018 17:26:27 +0200, a ecrit: > The launchpad upstream for compiz has switched to light maintenance mode > and will not make further development since Ubuntu has stopped using it. > > How do people feel about switching to compiz-reloaded

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 22 nov. 2018 19:08:37 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 30 août 2018 17:26:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > The launchpad upstream for compiz has switched to light maintenance mode > > and will not make further development since Ubuntu has s

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello Didier, Didier Spaier, le jeu. 20 déc. 2018 10:21:01 +0100, a ecrit: > FYT, I attach the shortcuts that will be set by default in Slint. Well, I'd say this should be synchronized upstream, so all distributions can benefit from it. Samuel

Re: Using absolute path for ExecStart in espeakup.service

2019-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le jeu. 10 janv. 2019 18:09:35 +0100, a ecrit: > According to the below message and to (1, 'execstart=') the command > 'ExecStart' should use a fully qualified path when 'execstop=' is not > specified. > Observed on Debian Stretch. This is fixed in stretch-proposed-updates's ver

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 16:40:05 -0500, a ecrit: > Is it expected that gtk2 will no longer talk, or is this a bug? It's not expected, I don't have the issue. Do you have the GTK_MODULES environment variable set to gail:atk-bridge? Which desktop environment are you running? To c

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 17:22:16 -0500, a ecrit: > GTK_MODULES was not set. But it should be getting set by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90atk-adaptor Which graphical desktop are you using? Samuel

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 07:49:40 -0500, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes: > > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > Samuel> Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 17:22:16 -0500, a ecrit: > &g

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a ecrit: > Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it. Does orca announce anything when going around with shortcuts? (on my system it does) > Lots of CPU gets consumed and the system generally hangs until I hit > alt

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Anybody up for the task of finding where session scripts live for Wayland? Samuel Samuel Thibault, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 13:51:39 +0100, a ecrit: > Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 07:49:40 -0500, a ecrit: > > >>>>> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes:

Re: Talking Debian install?

2019-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jayson Smith, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 02:21:09 -0500, a ecrit: > I downloaded a Debian Netinstall image, Which version did you download, exactly? > Jan 27 01:43:47 Virgil systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service:12] > Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: sh -c 'modprobe speak

Re: Talking Debian install?

2019-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 10:03:40 +0100, a ecrit: > Jayson Smith, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 02:21:09 -0500, a ecrit: > > Jan 27 01:43:47 Virgil systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service:12] > > Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: sh -c 'modprobe spea

Re: Full syslog

2019-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le lun. 28 janv. 2019 15:58:58 +0100, a ecrit: > Everything is there:  at-spi seems very unhappy with my use of brltty and the > terminal. The problem is that my log is 400MB in 2 hours lol It looks like brltty not managing to consume dbus events fast enough, that's odd. Sa

Re: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release

2019-02-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le sam. 02 févr. 2019 12:45:32 +0100, a ecrit: > * cdebconf: > - Notify gtk-font-set of the zoom factor. For information, this fixes the on-the-fly zoom support triggered by ctrl-+/- Samuel

Re: at-spi2-core

2019-02-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Erich MINDERLEIN, le lun. 04 févr. 2019 20:41:28 +, a ecrit: > Now I have less crashes better response and fast shutdown again within a > few seconds. System runs better. > Is it possible to eliminate the dependency of this Package for the x > applications ? Well, no. If we keep not

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in all kinds of places, and nobody is working on fixing them yet. Also, MATE+Compiz

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit: > What about Orca? > The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop > environment' (Gnome). When was that time? A lot of things happened on the Mate side :) Samuel

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide > > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:43:22 +0100, a ecrit: > On 2/8/2019 7:25 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit: > >> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >>> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:57:30 -0500, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide > > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern > &

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 21:30:26 -0500, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a > Samuel> ecrit: > >> Orca announc

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 09:53:03 +0100, a ecrit: > Something that is confusing is that when installing Debian with the > kernel boot parameter 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text', 'Debian desktop > environment' is not the desktop that is "accessible". Well, yes, changing the debconf frontend is

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 20:05:03 -0500, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for > > accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of > > default deskt

Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland? Jeremy Bicha, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 08:38:29 -0500, a ecrit: > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME > > > team.

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 15:26:52 +0100, a ecrit: > Agree, the point I'm trying to make is that 'Debian desktop environment' > (1 during the install process) should be the most accessible regardless > of which way you install. > > In other words: 'Debian desktop environment' (option 1 at th

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 26 janv. 2019 21:22:05 +0100, a ecrit: > Anybody up for the task of finding where session scripts live for > Wayland? It seems that can be in /usr/lib/environment.d according to man environment.d Samuel

Re: Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

2019-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le dim. 10 févr. 2019 07:39:17 +0100, a ecrit: > On 2/9/2019 3:16 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland? > > How do I go about testing wayland? > Should I tested on Mate or on Gnome? Mate doesn't seem to

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2019-02-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Øyvind Lode, le mar. 19 févr. 2019 09:58:34 +0100, a ecrit: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 18:05, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > The Debian 9.6 upgrade happened yesterday, and the 1:0.80-5+deb9u2 > > upgrade became available. > > > > Unfortunately it seems it is com

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2019-02-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Øyvind Lode, le mar. 19 févr. 2019 17:03:11 +0100, a ecrit: > > Yes, version 1:0.80-5+deb9u3 should be alright. > > I can confirm that it now works as expected. Thanks for testing! > It seems to me that the installer did not choose the correct > soundboard for the installed system. > I logged in

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2019-02-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Øyvind Lode, le mar. 19 févr. 2019 20:33:15 +0100, a ecrit: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 17:26, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > What does cat > > > > /sys/class/sound/card*/id > > > > produce? > > It'd be useful to check that it reports from the i

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2019-02-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Øyvind Lode, le mer. 20 févr. 2019 15:42:22 +0100, a ecrit: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 20:44, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Øyvind Lode, le mar. 19 févr. 2019 20:33:15 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 17:26, Samuel Thibault > > > wro

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2019-02-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Øyvind Lode, le mer. 20 févr. 2019 16:28:26 +0100, a ecrit: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 15:45, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Ok, thanks for the test! I'll upload that for Buster. > > Nice. > When will this be available in official images then? > When alpha 6 images

Re: Using absolute path for ExecStart in espeakup.service

2019-02-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le jeu. 21 févr. 2019 19:24:18 +0100, a ecrit: > On 1/10/2019 9:31 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > john doe, le jeu. 10 janv. 2019 18:09:35 +0100, a ecrit: > >> According to the below message and to (1, 'execstart=') the com

Re: Preseed file and accessibility at run time but not at installation time

2019-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le ven. 22 févr. 2019 09:24:06 +0100, a ecrit: > Basically, I need the accessibility features, has they would have been > installed if I had done the installation by selecting 'Install Debian > with speatch'. > > Any thoughts on how I could do that? With the current support, y

Re: Using absolute path for ExecStart in espeakup.service

2019-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 22 févr. 2019 09:42:01 +0100, a ecrit: > I took a different approach: > > $ mkdir -p /etc/systemd/system/espeakup.service.d > $ printf "[Service]\nExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'modprobe speakup_soft && > /usr/bin/espeakup -V \"\${VOICE}\"'" > > /etc/systemd/system/espeakup.service.d/serv

Re: Preseed file and accessibility at run time but not at installation time

2019-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 22 févr. 2019 10:30:41 +0100, a ecrit: > On 2/22/2019 10:04 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > john doe, le ven. 22 févr. 2019 09:24:06 +0100, a ecrit: > >> Basically, I need the accessibility features, has they would have been > >> installed if I had

Re: How to use speech synthesis in Hebrew ?

2019-03-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alex ARNAUD, le ven. 01 mars 2019 11:32:54 +0100, a ecrit: > I'm helping a blind person to use his computer and he speaks Hebrew. I'm > looking for him to find an Hebrew voice to read his language. > > Are you aware of such voice and how to use it with Speech Dispatcher ? > > I've found m

Re: [d-i] language selection bad for non English speakers

2019-03-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Henrique, le mer. 27 févr. 2019 00:58:04 +, a ecrit: > The problem was that right at the start there is a screen to choose the > language of the installation process and the system installed, with a list of > 29 languages, and then the following: > "Next choices are available wit

Re: [d-i] language selection bad for non English speakers

2019-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Henrique, le sam. 02 mars 2019 12:17:51 +, a ecrit: > > The paging feature was requested so that one can review the > > choices with the speakup reviewing facilities, but it seems > > that for now it brings more harm than good, > > > I don't think I understand the motivation behind the

Re: no speech in buster alpha 5 amd64 iso image with a Realtek internal sound board

2019-03-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, le sam. 02 mars 2019 23:07:10 -0600, a ecrit: > What do I need to do to get this installation working again as this > system is using the non-free firmware image as the network cards > require it? The non-free firmware images normally have the same speech support as officia

Re: no speech in buster alpha 5 amd64 iso image with a Realtek internal sound board

2019-03-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le dim. 03 mars 2019 17:54:46 -0600, a ecrit: > After this stable system is working properly should it be safe to > upgrade to Buster? Yes. > When I just tried s and enter at the boot prompt for both stable and > testing images I got no speech is the normal method to just press s

Re: Some repositories of Salsa do not permit public access

2019-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas Tille, le jeu. 07 mars 2019 18:21:12 +0100, a ecrit: > I'm doing some data mining on Blends repositories on Salsa. I noticed > that the following projects do not enable public access: > > dotify-api > odt2braille > yasr > > Please go to Settings -> General -> Permissions p

Re: Some repositories of Salsa do not permit public access

2019-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas Tille, le jeu. 07 mars 2019 18:49:12 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 06:26:28PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Andreas Tille, le jeu. 07 mars 2019 18:21:12 +0100, a ecrit: > > > I'm doing some data mining on Blends repositories on Salsa. I noticed &

Re: no speech in buster alpha 5 amd64 iso image with a Realtek internal sound board

2019-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le jeu. 07 mars 2019 18:12:47 -0600, a ecrit: > Hi, I use http://www.aira.io and will look into this would it be best with > the current alpha 5 or wait until the next image is released? Alpha 5 should be fine. Samuel

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Gregory Nowak, le jeu. 28 mars 2019 22:30:08 -0700, a ecrit: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 04:59:48PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > I tried it and it basically confirmed what I already know > > It tries to fix the problem. The old script gives errors. The > > new script gives errors

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Kirk Reiser, le ven. 29 mars 2019 11:34:54 -0400, a ecrit: > One wouldn't think people concerned with accessibility would let > something like this get passed them. It is very very very hard for me to read this. This kind of remark doesn't help with anything, it can only bring bad things, like me

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le ven. 29 mars 2019 17:21:51 +0100, a ecrit: > Thanks for it! I'll fix that for Buster. Unfortunately the next upgrade > will again have the issue, since it's the prerm script which stops > espeakup. But the upgrade after that (or a reinstall) should be fine

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kirk Reiser, le ven. 29 mars 2019 18:03:07 -0400, a ecrit: > I mistakenly assumed that you had others on the accessibility team > helping to catch problems as they come through. I figured as picky as > the kernel folks were that they would have scads of volunteers helping > make sure every

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
, they need to check that it does work. Samuel Samuel Thibault, le ven. 29 mars 2019 18:31:44 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le ven. 29 mars 2019 17:21:51 +0100, a ecrit: > > Thanks for it! I'll fix that for Buster. Unfortunately the next upgrade > > will again have the i

Re: Emacs and Emacspeak and New Debian Stable

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 01 avril 2019 15:44:02 -0400, a ecrit: > But the problem is that emacspeak is really behind the time in Debian.  The > version of emacspeak that supports NLS BARD downloads requires emacs 26.0 and > that hasn't reached Debian yet (I don't think). Emacs 26 didn't e

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Martin McCormick, le lun. 01 avril 2019 14:46:03 -0500, a ecrit: > What should I try next? As I already wrote several times: fix the issue by hand in /lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service, by adding /bin/ to ExecStart=sh -c 'modprobe speakup_soft && /usr/bin/espeakup -V ${VOICE}' so it loo

Re: Emacs and Emacspeak and New Debian Stable

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 01 avril 2019 16:09:37 -0400, a ecrit: > Do you know which version of emacspeak will be included? See http://packages.debian.org/emacspeak : 49.0 (thanks to Paul Gevers) Samuel

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Kirk Reiser, le lun. 01 avril 2019 17:46:16 -0400, a ecrit: > Hi Samuel: Sorry, yes it seems to be working Ok, thanks! > except that an isolated install doesn't really cover the situation > where a general upgrade or full-upgrade is taking place and how that > will affect your changes. We may nee

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Martin McCormick, le lun. 01 avril 2019 16:53:50 -0500, a ecrit: > > ExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'modprobe speakup_soft && /usr/bin/espeakup -V > > "${VOICE}"' > > I found that file exactly as you indicated and added > /bin. Here it is: > > [Unit] > Description=Software speech output for Speakup

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Didier Spaier, le mar. 02 avril 2019 00:08:28 +0200, a ecrit: > didier[~]$ grep -i speakup /boot/config-generic-4.19.30.x64 > # Speakup console speech > CONFIG_SPEAKUP=y > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_ACNTSA=y > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_APOLLO=y > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_AUDPTR=y > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SYNTH_B

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 02 avril 2019 00:35:14 +0200, a ecrit: > On 02/04/2019 00:22, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >> @Samuel: is there any benefit modularizing these drivers? > > > > Saving kernel memory (i.e. non-swappable memory), mostly. Normally one > > can switc

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup? It Works!

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Martin McCormick, le lun. 01 avril 2019 21:56:18 -0500, a ecrit: > If you rebooted the system right then, it would come up > silent. That's not expected. It seems that something has changed in systemd which broke the start. Could you try to change in /lib/systemd/system/espeakup.ser

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup? It Works!

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 02 avril 2019 08:44:45 +0200, a ecrit: > Martin McCormick, le lun. 01 avril 2019 21:56:18 -0500, a ecrit: > > If you rebooted the system right then, it would come up > > silent. > > That's not expected. > > It seems that something ha

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup? It Works!

2019-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 02 avril 2019 08:44:45 +0200, a ecrit: > Martin McCormick, le lun. 01 avril 2019 21:56:18 -0500, a ecrit: > > If you rebooted the system right then, it would come up > > silent. > > That's not expected. > > It seems that something ha

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mer. 03 avril 2019 20:09:33 +0200, a ecrit: > Then, both in the installer and in the installed system, the main > startup script will also need to "modprobe speakup soft" before starting > espeakup, right? Yes, or put it in /etc/modules. > But, with the changes you introduced, m

Re: Linux 9 stretch What to do about reviving speakup?

2019-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 03 avril 2019 23:33:45 +0200, a ecrit: > > But then, does this change also allows espeakup to be used with a hard > > synth, or does it remain usable only with the soft synth? > > I'm not sure what you wonder might not be working. Both hard and soft

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le sam. 06 avril 2019 19:00:22 +0100, a ecrit: > The embosser is recognized by cupps which correctly identified it's version. > > The first side of the first page works although the embossing begins at the > very top edge, ignoring the top margin. Do you mean the top margin

Enabling jaw (Java-atk-wrapper) by default ? (Bug#900912)

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Matthias Klose, le sam. 06 avril 2019 15:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > On 06.04.19 15:13, Paul Gevers wrote: > > We're late already, I would want this rather sooner than latter > > in buster, such that there is some real live testing before we release. > > Sure, there are chances for bugs, but if

Re: espeakup stopping speaking and slugish interuption of speech

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 04 avril 2019 11:34:53 -0400, a ecrit: > I run into trouble with espeakup stopping speaking.. > After downgrading the packages to the versions I mentioned above ,I’m able to > go about my work. So it seems that it is related to switching to espeak-ng (which is mai

Re: Enabling jaw (Java-atk-wrapper) by default ? (Bug#900912)

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Privat, le dim. 07 avril 2019 14:26:19 +0200, a ecrit: > If enabled by default, please offer a reliable way for applications to disable > it. It has always been available in /etc/java-11-openjdk/accessibility.properties > We don't need it for JOSM, Is there no way for blind people to use

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le dim. 07 avril 2019 13:10:07 +0100, a ecrit: > On 06/04/2019 23:50, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Keith Barrett, le sam. 06 avril 2019 19:00:22 +0100, a ecrit: > > > The embosser is recognized by cupps which correctly

Re: Enabling jaw (Java-atk-wrapper) by default ? (Bug#900912)

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Privat, le dim. 07 avril 2019 21:55:33 +0200, a ecrit: > Disabling it only through accessibility.properties means we have no control > over it from JOSM. So when the next bug appears, we'll have to tell all of our > impacted Ubuntu users to modify the file. We are here only talking about B

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 07 avril 2019 22:02:53 +0100, a ecrit: > On 07/04/19 20:44, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le dim. 07 avril 2019 13:10:07 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On 06/04/2019 23:50, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > All I can find in the c

Re: Bug report: Buster: Debian Installer doesn't speak

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geoff Shang, le dim. 07 avril 2019 22:56:52 +0100, a ecrit: > The language list came up, with no speech. I have just tried the daily build, it worked fine here. Could you have a look at the debugging information that we'd need to have to get an idea of what is going wrong on your system?

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 07 avril 2019 23:37:28 +0100, a ecrit: > 1 When setting the top margin in cups, it seems to be ignored or > inaccurate. I have it set to 1 inch The margin is in number of lines, not inches. > 2 Line length seems to be inconsistent. I have compared a braille document > e

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 08 avril 2019 00:47:30 +0200, a ecrit: > Keith Barrett, le dim. 07 avril 2019 23:37:28 +0100, a ecrit: > > The file I am testing with was created in libre office and saved as a plain > > text file. BTW, as mentioned previously, lp can directly take a .odt

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le lun. 08 avril 2019 00:06:49 +0100, a ecrit: > On 07/04/19 22:56, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > You can use > > > > /usr/sbin/cupsfilter -P /etc/cups/ppd/your-printer.ppd -m > > application/vnd.cups-brf yourfile.txt > /tmp/test.brf > OK,

Re: index braille embosser

2019-04-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le lun. 08 avril 2019 16:31:22 +0100, a ecrit: > I am attaching the full output of the command and the temp file that > resulted from it. I have not sent it to the list as it is long Being long is not a problem :) > and contains the file which I was brailling. That is however mor

Re: Debian Installer Buster RC 1 release

2019-04-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le lun. 15 avril 2019 22:47:40 +0200, a ecrit: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first release > candidate of the installer for Debian 10 "Buster". Notably, for debian-accessibility: > Improvements in this release > >

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