Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, on lun. 08 mai 2017 22:11:26 +0200, wrote: > I can have a look at implementing it, I just want to make sure > everybody is fine with the approach. I have submitted a patch to Bug#863180. Samuel

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on mar. 09 mai 2017 15:58:11 -0500, wrote: > Hi, My current system is a bios based system just so I know do the same images > like iso images work on both bios and the newer method or are there different > images for both systems? ISO images work on both bios and UEFI. Samuel

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-09 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, My current system is a bios based system just so I know do the same images like iso images work on both bios and the newer method or are there different images for both systems? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2017 2:17 AM, adrian15 adrian15 wrote: Well, I don't care too much about the approach

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, adrian15 adrian15, on mar. 09 mai 2017 09:17:15 +0200, wrote: >   I don't care too much about the approach or if you apply it to live-wrapper > (current Debian Live) or live-build (former Debian Live). The plan is to have it on the official images. AIUI live-wrapper is used for them, righ

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-09 Thread adrian15 adrian15
Well, I don't care too much about the approach or if you apply it to live-wrapper (current Debian Live) or live-build (former Debian Live). In any case make sure you implement it for both UEFI and BIOS boot. UEFI uses GRUB2 menues and thus it's slightly different to the current proposed isolinux

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, So, debian-live people, are you fine with this proposal? I can have a look at implementing it, I just want to make sure everybody is fine with the approach. Samuel Samuel Thibault, on ven. 05 mai 2017 02:01:22 +0200, wrote: > I mean having this menu at live boot (shortcuts marked with ^)

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-04 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I like that idea a lot. One thing that should be looked into the live-builder program is when accessibility such as speech and braille are added to the main live discs they are also added to the main templates for users who wish to build their own custom live discs so accessibility would b

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on lun. 01 mai 2017 14:35:39 -0500, wrote: > Hi, Why not have the shortcuts be the same for both console and graphical > discs to make things easier for the end user? I was thinking that the user still needs to somehow decide between console and graphical, but he can just press ctr

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on lun. 01 mai 2017 15:34:48 +0200, wrote: > - get a live console (with brltty and/or speech support) > > The former needs to be discussed with the debian live people: AIUI, they > never implemented it, so it needs to be worked on, to get login sprung > on VTs, etc. Actually no,

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-01 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Why not have the shortcuts be the same for both console and graphical discs to make things easier for the end user? I agree with your point about just loading the entire thing into ram so the disc could then be removed as one issue with the live discs is backing up data and if a user wishe

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on lun. 01 mai 2017 09:20:34 -0500, wrote: > Hi, What about s for the installation with speech and l for the live disc > with speech? But then what about console live disk versus graphical live disk? We can't just throw partial guesses, we need to consider the whole problem :) >

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-01 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, What about s for the installation with speech and l for the live disc with speech? We could also have s for the live disc with speech and i for the installation but having the s for the installation might be best but if users don't know about that shortcut then having s for the live system

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-05-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on sam. 29 avril 2017 19:14:31 -0500, wrote: > Hi, I am trying to make the live debian images with the installer accessible > so blind users can put one of the live discs into their drives and test out > debian either console and or one of the desktop images. The gnome desk

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-04-30 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Another point I want to make is to make sure that accessibility is also added into standard live builds with the debian live builder scripts so if users wish to build a custom disc that accessibility is included like speech and braille if just a console disc image is built and there is no d

Re: accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-04-30 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Le 30/04/2017 à 02:14, Nick Gawronski a écrit : > Hi, I am trying to make the live debian images with the installer > accessible so blind users can put one of the live discs into their > drives and test out debian either console and or one of the desktop Oh! Excellent news! Many thanks! I've wai

accessibility like speech and braille in the debian live console and desktop images

2017-04-29 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I am trying to make the live debian images with the installer accessible so blind users can put one of the live discs into their drives and test out debian either console and or one of the desktop images. I am sending this message to both the debian-accessibilityand the debian-live lists s