Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Sorry for replying so late, I was on holidays :) Le mar 24 aoû 2004 à 17:50:00 +0300, Veli-Pekka Tatila a tapoté sur son clavier : > >tricky. Cause alt arrow left/right is already used to switch > >next/prev vt. > Well it could be some other key as well. THe only thing you'd have to do is >

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-28 Thread Kenny Hitt
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:55:52PM +0300, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > I suppose this could be some kind of a text mode GUI, similar to installers > in DOS games or the dialog interface in Debian, only more sophisticated. > Right? > Yep. It's a program called aptitude. I find it very helpful whe

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Your feelings are from getting thrown into something new and clearly very different. Agreed. I reckon I'll get used to things eventually. And there's still that GUI side in Linux, though it's optional. what would happen if you opened "My computer", selected your hd, and press

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-26 Thread Kenny Hitt
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:24:42PM +0300, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > I'm not sure if I'd say the same. I mean, I've been spoiled by GUIs so to > speak. Even though Linux is loads more powerful than DOS, I still don't > feel quite at home sitting in front of a text terminal. At

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Jason White
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > I think you're not understanding the accessibility of Linux. You're > thinking the only way to use a computer is with a GUI. The only problem > with Linux Access is with GUI apps. That isn't a big loss, just > annoying. My only interest in Gnome i

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Gnopernicus is supposet to work with Swing. Ah another question out of the way. THX for the info. thinking the only way to use a computer is with a GUI. I'm not thinking that way but I do admit I was mostly talking about X accessibility here. That isn't a big loss, just annoying

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Kenny Hitt
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 04:20:11PM +0300, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > Swing was supposed to add accessibility support. Does Gnopernicus work with > Awt or Swing at all? > Gnopernicus is supposet to work with Swing. You need to install Sun's JDK and built the java-access-bridge

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: There were major changes from GTK1 to GTK2, so programs have to be rewritten to use GTK2. Not sure if it's anything like that. But the transition from AWT to Swing comes to mind on the Java side. Now the ironic thing is that my Windows screen reader, Supernova, cannot read any S

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Kenny Hitt
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 02:13:28PM +0300, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > >Zinf uses GTK, but it still isn't > >accessible. > Umm if I'm reading this correctly, does this imply that all GTK1 apps are > automagically inaccessible and GTK2 apps accessible, respectively. Might a > GTK

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Andor Demarteau
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > Andor Demarteau wrote: > > I don't think xmms codecs are supported, but I'm not sure. > By codec , do you really mean compressor decompressor or something more > sophisticated? To me codecs are algorithms that turn some compressed file > format

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: I don't think xmms codecs are supported, but I'm not sure. By codec , do you really mean compressor decompressor or something more sophisticated? To me codecs are algorithms that turn some compressed file format into ordinary PCM that the player can then play back. The kind

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Andor Demarteau
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > Can I still use XMMS plug-ins in mplayer natively or through some wrapper? > Also, I seem to dislike the name Mplayer, and I think I know the reason as > well. In Windows, I usually launch apps through the run box and the name for > the Windows Me

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
µAndor Demarteau wrote: yes mplayer does. Can I still use XMMS plug-ins in mplayer natively or through some wrapper? Also, I seem to dislike the name Mplayer, and I think I know the reason as well. In Windows, I usually launch apps through the run box and the name for the Windows Media Player ex

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Andor Demarteau
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: > > XMMS doesn't use GTK, so it isn't accessible. > Not even the dialogs? Regarding Winamp, most screen readers are able to read > some of those bitmap controls on the player by interpreting the tooltips. > However, Winamp is fully keyboard accessib

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: The GUI version of alsamixer uses GTK2, so it's accessible. Ah very nice,. One thing that really sucks in terms of usability, though, is that there can often be so many channels that you'll actually have to scroll around the mixer to see them all. I wonder if it auto-scrolls if