Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-26 Thread Roberto Burceni
Hi, In some cases, when you press F7 and activate the caret navigations, you have to reload orca for beginning to read. Best regards Roberto Burceni Linux System Admin & PHP developer Esperto accessibilità siti web E-mail: robe...@robertoburceni.it Phone: +393358208080 P.iva: 04025840986

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-25 Thread Chevelle
Atril Document viewer and some other applications require you to enable caret navigation.  You can press the F7 key to toggle it. After that you should be able to arrow up and down or use the 'speak entire document' key.  You can press alt-e to get to the Edit menu and try to save your preferen

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-25 Thread Kenneth
skrev john doe: On 2/23/25 20:55, Kenneth wrote: It contains text, it works with Jaws on Windows, why i dont understand that im not able to read pdf files in Debian with Orca JAWS is able to read it, if it were containing text Orca should be able to readit. Also, it would be nice to say all

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-25 Thread Kenneth
Hello Iris, Thanks for your suggestion, unfortuneately, i am not able to get to the pdf content.. Only Atril and Atril options.. But it wont get to the content. Best kind regards Kenneth Den 24.02.2025 kl. 13.20 skrev Iris Schaedler: Hello, Am Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 08:33:40PM +0100 schrieb K

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-24 Thread Iris Schaedler
Hello, Am Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 08:33:40PM +0100 schrieb Kenneth: > Thanks for the suggestion, i've just tested, and it dosent read the pdf > file, just reads page 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. but it does not read the text or > content of the pdf file - Tested with Firefox. With the Tab and Arrow Keys you shol

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread john doe
On 2/23/25 20:55, Kenneth wrote: It contains text, it works with Jaws on Windows, why i dont understand that im not able to read pdf files in Debian with Orca JAWS is able to read it, if it were containing text Orca should be able to readit. Also, it would be nice to say all pertinent

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread Kenneth
It contains text, it works with Jaws on Windows, why i dont understand that im not able to read pdf files in Debian with Orca Den 23.02.2025 kl. 20.39 skrev john doe: On 2/23/25 20:33, Kenneth wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, i've just tested, and it dosent read the pdf file, just reads

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Well if the PDF file contains only images no wonders (OCR) will happen. But with PDF documents that contain text and are structured I expect Firefox to do a reasonable job.

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread john doe
On 2/23/25 20:33, Kenneth wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, i've just tested, and it dosent read the pdf file, just reads page 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. but it does not read the text or content of the pdf file - Tested with Firefox. Likely because the PDF is a pickture of a scanned document. -- John Do

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread Kenneth
Thanks for the suggestion, i've just tested, and it dosent read the pdf file, just reads page 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. but it does not read the text or content of the pdf file - Tested with Firefox. Best kind regards Kenneth Den 23.02.2025 kl. 19.58 skrev Sébastien Hinderer: Hello, Try opening your P

Re: pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hello, Try opening your PDF documents in your web browser, e.g. Firefox.

pdf reader that works with Orca

2025-02-23 Thread Kenneth
Hi, I have difficulties reading pdf files on Linux Debian 12.9 bookworm. Im not sure if it's me who is just not using Orca correctly, so id like to know if there is users on this list that can recommend a pdf reader and or some knowledge, if i need to use some special key combinations to

Re: Missing function with Orca, how to add?

2025-02-23 Thread Kenneth
Hi John, Thanks for your suggestion, i am not able to use the Orca mail list, when i request subscribtion, it gives a internal error. I have written a mail to the webmaster, but they havent replied. Thanks for the xbindkeys recommendation, it seems to work :-) Best kind regards Kenneth Den

Re: Missing function with Orca, how to add?

2025-02-19 Thread john doe
screen. For Orca specific question you are better off on the Orca mailing list. If you use "xbindkeys", you don't need to touch Orca at all. -- John Doe

Missing function with Orca, how to add?

2025-02-19 Thread Kenneth
: .local/share/orca/orca-customizations.py, but Orca dosent seem to accept this.. Can someone help me on how to edit the key bindings in Orca and how i add a python script to add a function to turn off/on the screen? Currently on Orca 43.1 and on another debian laptop i have Orca 47.3 - Both

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi, Indeed, it is a bad idea to run a full update with this flag. It is normal to see many packages to be updated, while there are not when you dont use the flag, as with it, it searches what to update in the experimental repo. But experimental should not be considered as a branch as sid. If p

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-09 Thread Chime Hart
Hi Jean: Thank you: Once I had an experimental in the list, I was able to install ORCA48. An item which is fascinating to me is if I use that -t flag with any package, it says 298 packages not upgraded, but otherwise everything is up2date. I suppose it would be risky to run an update with that f

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
suites: field. But again, I suggest you do this after you have what you want from orca point of view. To install the experimental version of Orca, did you type: apt install orca -t experimental ? That should install automatically the dependencies. Finally, to find the binary (but not sure

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-08 Thread Chime Hart
Well, thank you Jeremy-and-Samuel. Looks as if I accidently nuked Samuel's original reply. Meanwhile last evening after alot of searching I found an url of experimental, which I put in a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Was finally able to upgrade ORCA. And certainly April 15 is

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-08 Thread Jeremy Bícha
to the same line as testing in the new format. Just separate the words with a space. Samuel, do you plan to get Orca 48 into Debian Trixie? If so, did you want to upload it to Unstable now? If you wait for 48.0, it will probably be after Transition Freeze, but I don't think anyone would stop you f

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-08 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:06 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > 48.0 will most probably happen before april 15. Thanks. That sounds good. Jeremy Bícha

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
t; "testing" with "experimental". > > You can add experimental to the same line as testing in the new > format. Just separate the words with a space. > > Samuel, do you plan to get Orca 48 into Debian Trixie? Yes. > If so, did you want to upload it to Unsta

Re: Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
I am hoping there is a direct dot deb > file I can grab? It's on the packages.debian.org site: https://packages.debian.org/experimental/orca Samuel

Are Their deb Packages for ORCA 48?

2025-02-07 Thread Chime Hart
Hi All: I was able to find the binary from experimental, but struggling through those installation instructions, involving "meson _build" Says it cannot find CMAKE when I did install it. Also, similar with at-spi2. To make matters worse DEBIAN had me "modernize-sources" now its a new format-and-

Re: Orca speak up during boot

2024-11-15 Thread john doe
On 11/15/24 02:20, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le mer. 13 nov. 2024 10:39:42 +0100, a ecrit: When the computer is turned on, it will during setup speak out "Starting network manager" and then nothing more, unless i use the hotkeys alt + super + s which works fine. But

Re: Orca speak up during boot

2024-11-14 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Thanks for your replies on this Samuel and John Doe. I earlier recived a reply with a fix by Matthew on this list to disable espeakup with the following command: sudo systemctl disable espeakup Best kind regards Kenneth Den 15.11.2024 kl. 08.49 skrev john doe: On 11/15/24 02:20, Samuel Thib

Re: Orca speak up during boot

2024-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le mer. 13 nov. 2024 10:39:42 +0100, a ecrit: > When the computer is turned on, it will during setup speak out "Starting > network manager" and then nothing more, unless i use the hotkeys alt + super > + s which works fine. > > But the issue is, during start up, wher

Orca speak up during boot

2024-11-13 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
re it will speak out "Starting network manager". I have found these places with Orca related startup files: 1. /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart 2. /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf the 2. is the login screen, which is set to autologin, while the 1. seems to be th

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Realizing just now: Kenneth Schack Banner wrote: > Current workaround is a USB audio card which works, but on three diffrent > machines UEFI seems to block the internal audio? Did you mean that when booting without UEFI, you do get audio working ? Kenneth Schack Banner wrote: > at appearsin Debi

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-21 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Hi Samuel, Sorry for the late reply. I was able to reproduce the error, so here is some deails about the audio card and drivers: The issue is only during the installation, at appearsin Debian 12.7 AMD64, below is sudo lshw -c sound   *-multimedia:0    description: Audio device    pro

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-21 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Schack Banner, le jeu. 10 oct. 2024 11:32:11 +0200, a ecrit: A last, but minor issue is that in the Debian 12.7 installer, if it comes to 90%, then Orca will read it as "9 0" and not "90". (you mean speakup) That's most probably just because the 9 is printed at the end of

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Kenneth Schack Banner, le jeu. 10 oct. 2024 11:32:11 +0200, a ecrit: > A last, but minor issue is that in the Debian 12.7 installer, if it comes to > 90%, then Orca will read it as "9 0" and not "90". (you mean speakup) That's most probably just because the 9 is pr

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Kenneth Schack Banner, le jeu. 10 oct. 2024 11:32:11 +0200, a ecrit: > Current workaround is a USB audio card which works, but on three diffrent > machines UEFI seems to block the internal audio? If the three different machines have similar audio cards, that wouldn't be really surprising. We'd nee

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le jeu. 10 oct. 2024 11:32:11 +0200, a ecrit: > I have just noticed that if my computer uses UEFI boot on USB, then after 30 > seconds in the debian boot menu it wont auto run with speech - I need to > press s to run it Indeed, the timeout is not implemented for the

Re: UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-10 Thread john doe
e to speak. A last, but minor issue is that in the Debian 12.7 installer, if it comes to 90%, then Orca will read it as "9 0" and not "90". You are likely talking about Espeakup and not Orca! ;^) I'm not sure if I understand the link you are making with the type of BIO

UEFI conflicts with Orca during installation

2024-10-10 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
three diffrent machines UEFI seems to block the internal audio? A last, but minor issue is that in the Debian 12.7 installer, if it comes to 90%, then Orca will read it as "9 0" and not "90". Best kind regards Kenneth

Re: Orca modificer not working

2024-10-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le lun. 07 oct. 2024 15:37:02 +0200, a ecrit: > The Orca modifier key should either be shift, alt, caps or insert, but none > of these works. insert does work for me with debian 12.7 on both LXDE and MATE desktops. Switching to capslock as modified als

Re: Orca modificer not working

2024-10-08 Thread cstrobel crosslink . net
Generally ORCA works best with Mate desktop. I have used it on a Dell laptop with no problem. Maybe you could install the Mate desktop along side the other desktop and login with that and see if it works better. From: Kenneth Schack Banner Sent: Monday

Orca modificer not working

2024-10-07 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Hi, I just installed Debian 12.7 bookworm on an Lenovo Thinkpad X240 laptop with the LXDE desktop enovirement and have some troubles using Orca. The Orca modifier key should either be shift, alt, caps or insert, but none of these works. I have tried all + space bar which should launch Orca

Re: Orca/espeakup loud audio on login screen and..

2024-09-26 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Hi Jason, I must say i did not know the keyboard had media keys, but they only work after i have logged into and am on the desktop.. So i havent been able to adjust sound level on login screen and also tried to enable/disable screen reader on login screen which also did not work. I have chang

Re: Orca/espeakup loud audio on login screen and..

2024-09-24 Thread Jason J.G. White
On 24/9/24 09:18, Kenneth Schack Banner wrote: When starting the computer, it comes to the login window and the audio is extremely loud, untill logged in, then the audio level is okay / low. What could be the reason that the login screen has one level of audio, but when logged in, its anothe

Orca/espeakup loud audio on login screen and..

2024-09-24 Thread Kenneth Schack Banner
Hi, Im trying to make my sons computer run Linux Debian, but feel like im hitting an issue with Orca/espeakup. I have installed Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon as desktop, why lightdm is the window manager. When starting the computer, it comes to the login window and the audio is extremely loud

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-22 Thread Chime Hart
from Voxin Allison. I wish I had a good way of letting you hear an audio output, or maybe these errors are in a file? Would be thrilled to post. When examining running processes, which I killed, were i3, xinit, xorg, startxI also re-installed orca OK, just ran startx and tried an alt+f2 orca got

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le ven. 23 août 2024 00:25:32 +0200, a ecrit: > Chime Hart, le jeu. 22 août 2024 15:15:36 -0700, a ecrit: > > OK, thank you Samuel, so just running an > > apt upgrade at-spi > > didn't do the trick, so please inform what will I type to enjoy your > > changes? > > It's the gir1.2-a

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le jeu. 22 août 2024 15:15:36 -0700, a ecrit: > OK, thank you Samuel, so just running an > apt upgrade at-spi > didn't do the trick, so please inform what will I type to enjoy your > changes? It's the gir1.2-atspi-2.0 package that matters. Samuel

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-22 Thread Chime Hart
OK, thank you Samuel, so just running an apt upgrade at-spi didn't do the trick, so please inform what will I type to enjoy your changes? Thanks in advance Chime

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le ven. 09 août 2024 10:02:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Jeremy Bícha, le jeu. 08 août 2024 17:26:35 -0400, a ecrit: > > Could someone affected by this issue please file a RC bug against > > at-spi2-core to help others be informed about the bug and avoid > > upgrading the package if possibl

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeremy Bícha, le jeu. 08 août 2024 17:26:35 -0400, a ecrit: > Could someone affected by this issue please file a RC bug against > at-spi2-core to help others be informed about the bug and avoid > upgrading the package if possible? I have already forwarded the report as RC bug report. Samu

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread Jeremy Bícha
Could someone affected by this issue please file a RC bug against at-spi2-core to help others be informed about the bug and avoid upgrading the package if possible? Sorry I had too many other commitments today to be able to investigate and figure out a packaging workaround if needed. Thank you, J

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread Chime Hart
Well, I manually grabbed a newer ORCA, but still whether its 46.2 or 47.1, seemingly same results here, as I am getting evolution warnings along with something about gst scanner. I did ask on an ORCA list, but some of their responses were I should dich the console for 2weeks-and-just use ORCA

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:05 PM Jason J.G. White wrote: > On 8/8/24 09:32, Jérémy Prego wrote: > > I don't know if this is the right way to report my bug, but I > > discovered that updating the atspi2 stack to version 2.53.1-1 prevents > > orca from starting with a pyth

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread Jason J.G. White
On 8/8/24 09:32, Jérémy Prego wrote: I don't know if this is the right way to report my bug, but I discovered that updating the atspi2 stack to version 2.53.1-1 prevents orca from starting with a python error : Try upgrading Orca as well, as the problem may have been fixed upstream.

Re: testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread john doe
On 8/8/24 15:32, Jérémy Prego wrote: Hello, I don't know if this is the right way to report my bug, but I discovered that updating the atspi2 stack to version 2.53.1-1 prevents orca from starting with a python error : $ orca Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/orca

testing/sid: upgrade atspi to version 2.53.1-1 break orca on my system

2024-08-08 Thread Jérémy Prego
Hello, I don't know if this is the right way to report my bug, but I discovered that updating the atspi2 stack to version 2.53.1-1 prevents orca from starting with a python error : $ orca Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/orca", line 50, in     f

Re: Resetting Orca

2024-07-09 Thread K0LNY ??
That fixed it, thank you! - Original Message - From: "Christian Schoepplein" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 3:45 AM Subject: Re: Resetting Orca Hi, On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 02:40:01PM -0500, K0LNY ?? wrote: > Is there a way to load Orca with default settings, or a

Re: Resetting Orca

2024-07-09 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi, On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 02:40:01PM -0500, K0LNY ?? wrote: > Is there a way to load Orca with default settings, or a CLI option to > specify the synth, such as espeak? No, there isn't such a option IMHO. But maybe the following works: 1. Press Alt+F2 to run a command. 2.

Re: Resetting Orca

2024-07-08 Thread K0LNY ??
To add to this, I tried to find a contact from the Gnome - Orca site to ask about this, and could not find a contact. Does anyone here know how to reach out to someone from that team? I need to suggest a couple things, such as a way to launch Orca with a specific TTS engine, like we can do with

Resetting Orca

2024-07-08 Thread K0LNY ??
Hi, In Ubuntu, 24.04, the Orca there had dectalk open source version in the available synths. So I selected that, and now I have no TTS. Question, Is there a way to load Orca with default settings, or a CLI option to specify the synth, such as espeak? I have uninstalled and reinstalled Orca in a

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-07 Thread john doe
On 7/7/24 19:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Chime Hart, le jeu. 04 juil. 2024 17:16:31 -0700, a ecrit: Hi All: In looking over an ORCA config file, I couldn't help but notice, similar to the Fenrir manual, most options have 3words jammed together, no spaces. Now, in a windows envire

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le dim. 07 juil. 2024 10:28:12 -0700, a ecrit: > Hi Samuel: Are you suggesting I file a "reportbug" item with ORCA? No, that you report to the orca mailing list. Samuel

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-07 Thread Chime Hart
Hi Samuel: Are you suggesting I file a "reportbug" item with ORCA? Honestly since I stay as far away as I can from espeak, I wouldn't know how it handles mixed case. As far as the Fenrir options-and-manual, I will discuss those with Storm. Thank you. Chime

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chime Hart, le jeu. 04 juil. 2024 17:16:31 -0700, a ecrit: > Hi All: In looking over an ORCA config file, I couldn't help but notice, > similar to the Fenrir manual, most options have 3words jammed together, no > spaces. Now, in a windows enviremnent with mixed case enabl

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-04 Thread Chime Hart
Hi All: In looking over an ORCA config file, I couldn't help but notice, similar to the Fenrir manual, most options have 3words jammed together, no spaces. Now, in a windows enviremnent with mixed case enabled, this would not be an issue, but listening in a console with a DecTalk, much of

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-04 Thread Chime Hart
Well, Roberto-and-All, I tried apt or aptitude install orca it says its the latest version 46.2 minus 1. I am in Trixy Sid. Please inform what changes in that newer version? Thanks so much in advance Chime

Re: Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
muel Thibault ha scritto: Hello, I have uploaded orca 47~alpha-1 in experimental, it will be available within a few hours. (Since orca has very little dependencies, you can safely install that version on a stable/testing/sid) Samuel

Orca 47 alpha

2024-07-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 47~alpha-1 in experimental, it will be available within a few hours. (Since orca has very little dependencies, you can safely install that version on a stable/testing/sid) Samuel

orca 46 beta

2024-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 beta to experimental. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 16:47:09 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >> >I have uploaded

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread john doe
On 1/21/24 16:47, Sebastian Humenda wrote: Hi Samuel Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi Samuel Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: >Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: >> >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to >> >have

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to > >have improved performance a lot through using cache.o > Sounds great, thanks for givi

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to >have improved performance a lot through using cache.o Sounds great, thanks for giving the opportunity to test it out. Are there any minimum required software versi

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-20 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Hi Samuel, Thanks for that upload. I’ll try to test. Raphaël Samuel Thibault writes: > Hello, > > I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to > have improved performance a lot through using cache. It also got > significant rewrites to clear the code,

orca 46 alpha

2024-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to have improved performance a lot through using cache. It also got significant rewrites to clear the code, so there may be regressions ahead. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 09:57:25PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Jason J.G. White, le mar. 14 nov. 2023 08:56:27 -0500, a ecrit: >> On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: >> >> After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal >> repo >> >> all t

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, This is all very odd. Jason J.G. White, le mar. 14 nov. 2023 08:56:27 -0500, a ecrit: > > On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal repo > > all things are good again: > > You'll need to mark the ap

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Jason J.G. White wrote: > On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > > After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal > > repo > > all things are good again: > > You'll need to mark the appropriate libvte packages a

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Jason J.G. White
On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal repo all things are good again: You'll need to mark the appropriate libvte packages as on hold until Samuel's patch is accepted upstream, and the upstream version enters Debia

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian >packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/ I was usin

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
this session with > the new flatfview feature from orca and not with brltty's COPY_RECT feature Ok, how do you copy from orca exactly? The FLAT_REVIEW_COPY = _("Copy the contents under flat review to the clipboard") Orca command? Or braille routing keys? Could you kil

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-25 Thread Christian Schoepplein
n. >> I've also tested it with the new show flatview contents feature of orca 45 >> during working in a tmux session. There the same issue is happening if I >> copy multiline text and insert it using different editors. > >I don't see the relation between flatview

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
contents feature of orca 45 > during working in a tmux session. There the same issue is happening if I > copy multiline text and insert it using different editors. I don't see the relation between flatview and copy? Are you using a copy feature from orca? Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Schoepplein
opy multiline content, >the issue is happening and the content is inserted in reverse order and with >broken line breaks. > >I'll test if the internal tmux copy and paste function is working without a >problem if I've found out how to use it, currently I am to stupid to

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi samuel, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 oct. 2023 22:36:34 +0200, a ecrit: >> Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: >> > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if >> > I

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 oct. 2023 22:36:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen for my daily job. > >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen for my daily job. > > The original content I like to copy looks like this: > > bor

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-10 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel and all, there is another strange issue with the terminal, but I do not know if it is libvte, tmux or maybe brltty related. I am using brltty in the terminal, the braille functionality of orca is turned of in the orca profile settings for mate-terminal. In /etc/X11/Xsession.d

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 11:03:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Which exact version are you testing? Please use > >dpkg -l libvte-2.91-0:amd64 > >otherwise I cannot say anything about your results. My package with >latest changes is versioned 0.73.99-1+fix, not 0.74. I got version 0.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 06 oct. 2023 20:52:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an > >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian > >package

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel and all, On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian >packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-13 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:31:27PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Samuel Thibault, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 14:07:35 +0200, a ecrit: >> Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: >> > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. >> > i

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 14:07:35 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. > > into > > another terminal, and then switch back into the terminal with the transl

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. into > another terminal, and then switch back into the terminal with the translate > command everything looks good and the output is in a seperate line.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hi, Christian Schoepplein (2023/09/12 13:30 +0200): > I do have the problem not only with translate, this was just an example > command to show the issue. I have the same problems with apt and other > commands too, so the issue IMHO is not related to translate only. Yes that's what I was tryin

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Seb and all, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:52:39AM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: >May it be the case that translate adjusts its output to the size of the >terminal? I do have the problem not only with translate, this was just an example command to show the issue. I have the same problems with

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hello, May it be the case that translate adjusts its output to the size of the terminal? That may enxplain the difference observed in behaviours between Samuel and Christian. Seb.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
command everything looks good and the output is in a seperate line. Strange... >So it's the output of the command itself which is a one-liner, mate&orca >can't do anything about it :) I had the same behaviour also with commands that output more then one line, e.g. with apt

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Samuel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 09:06:00AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: >> But there are still a few problematic things: > >Are these regressions over the previous state? No. Its much better now, also with the other proble

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
| Vorkommen [...] So it's the output of the command itself which is a one-liner, mate&orca can't do anything about it :) > Also the problem that the screen content is not refreshed when deleting > lines in a long text e.g. in the nano editor is still there. Just try the > fo

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: > But there are still a few problematic things: Are these regressions over the previous state? Not that I don't want to fix them, but I want to get something committed so we can make some progress, even if not perfect y

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