Re: GNOME PDF viewer app Papers

2025-02-08 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 9:19 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Do I understand this correctly, there is no menu in "Papers", you no longer > have an infobar which wasn't default but required an opt-in selection but > "Papers" features something called a "toast" which is a visual message that > is rea

Re: GNOME PDF viewer app Papers

2025-02-07 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Hello Jeremy, You told us that Papers has switched from an opt-in infobar to a toast, a visual message (that is read out by Orca), somewhat similar to how web browsers enable caret navigation. Do I understand this correctly, there is no menu in "Papers", you no longer have an infobar which wasn't

Re: GNOME PDF viewer app Papers

2025-02-07 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:41 PM Sam Hartman wrote: > Actually that experience doesn't sound too bad to me. When I tested earlier, the infobar was not read aloud which I believe would have made it much worse. I don't know why that happened then but not in my testing today. > That said, I had no id

Re: GNOME PDF viewer app Papers

2025-02-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jeremy" == Jeremy Bícha writes: Jeremy> For comparison, I tried getting Orca to read PDFs in Jeremy> Evince. The experience was very bad. I had to enable caret Jeremy> mode with F7; then it requires clicking a button in an Jeremy> infobar. Navigation there is awkward. The

GNOME PDF viewer app Papers

2025-02-07 Thread Jeremy Bícha
GNOME's PDF viewer app is named Evince. After development slowed too much, some GNOME developers forked Evince. The new app is named Papers and has switched to GTK4. Part of the app has been rewritten in Rust. GNOME is expected to switch their recommended default PDF viewer from Evince to Papers fo