Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread john doe
On 2/13/2022 2:21 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Jude DaShiell, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 20:15:13 -0500, a ecrit: In osx 10.4 tiger I was told it was 10 seconds. Thanks! This looks quite small to me, I wonder if debian-boot will be fine with such quick enabling of speech synthesis. The good news is

Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 20:15:13 -0500, a ecrit: > In osx 10.4 tiger I was told it was 10 seconds. Thanks! This looks quite small to me, I wonder if debian-boot will be fine with such quick enabling of speech synthesis. The good news is that syslinux already supports what we need, s

Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
In osx 10.4 tiger I was told it was 10 seconds. On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Again repeating myself. Please people do help me, otherwise I won't be > able to help you. > > Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > > > I understand recent installers for both OSX and Windows start talk

Re: Debian Accessibility

2022-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Again repeating myself. Please people do help me, otherwise I won't be able to help you. Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > > I understand recent installers for both OSX and Windows start talking > > automatically if there is a delay when they expect initial input from > > the user. Samuel Thibaul

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Didier Spaier
The best virtualization software in my opinion is Qemu, especially wrt sound thus speech. Cheers, Didier On 30/12/2021 19:15, Jordan Livesey wrote: > I have tried one time but was unable to get speech output and was using a > virtual machine due to my machine being a secure boot system, the debia

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
n is there for knowing about such things. Remember that there is the debian accessibility wiki https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility > I understand recent installers for both OSX and Windows start talking > automatically if there is a delay when they expect initial input from > the user.

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
I read comments like "Press s and enter", "press a and enter then s and enter", "press down arrow 5 times and enter", and all I'm hearing is that Blind people need to know something about the install media sighted people can be comfortably ignorant of. This strikes me as backwards and as the kind

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread john doe
On 12/30/2021 8:37 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: Hello John, There was a method - I believe a letter used during installation that provided logs, but I can't find how to get to it. I'll give Debian 11.1 one more try since I didn't know the switch or method which I did use in the past, I've just f

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
I just put in the DVD and it's Debian 11.2.0 amd64 1 not 11.1. I don't even know if I tried 11.1 but I tried 11.0 and it didn't work and 11.2 doesn't work. I'm going to try "a" and see if in Advanced Mode it lets me save the errors. Best to all, David

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Hello John, There was a method - I believe a letter used during installation that provided logs, but I can't find how to get to it. I'll give Debian 11.1 one more try since I didn't know the switch or method which I did use in the past, I've just forgotten. Is it "a" for advanced? and then it is

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jordan Livesey, le jeu. 30 déc. 2021 19:16:39 +, a ecrit: > all I need to do is arrow down 5 times, Yes, but possibly Debian could introduce newer items. Alternatively you can use the end key since the speech entry is last. But really, s enter should really just work. If it doesn't it's a bug

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jordan Livesey
all I need to do is arrow down 5 times, and it starts speaking the message, type enter to use this sound board, I've memorised the installation at this point so know which language location and debian archive mirror I want On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:52 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021, Jordan Livesey wrote: > Have you tried pressing the down arrow 5 times when on the boot menu of > Debian 11? Some how, pressing s no longer works for some people I am not aware of any bug report about this. The precise ISO image that was used needs to be told so we can check

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread john doe
On 30 Dec 2021, at 18:28, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: If I install with Debian 10 installation media, then change the /etc/apt/sources.list everything works as it should, my sound card is correctly detected, and I have screen reader during installation, I have screen reader when booting into Debi

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
It's a bit more complex than that now. First press a on the boot prompt then hit enter. then press s on the continued boot prompt. then press x on the boot prompt and then hit enter and listen to what happens. Likely speech comes up along with a numbered menu which is what the expert mode presents.

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jordan Livesey
Have you tried pressing the down arrow 5 times when on the boot menu of Debian 11? Some how, pressing s no longer works for some people > On 30 Dec 2021, at 18:28, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > If I install with Debian 10 installation media, then change the > /etc/apt/sources.list everything wor

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jordan Livesey
Mac auto correct again, god I hate this feature, was talking about UEFI > On 30 Dec 2021, at 18:21, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > Jordan, > > Your post makes very little sense to me. I don't know what "refi system" > means. Also unless my memory is incorrect, Debian comes up with a screen > re

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
If I install with Debian 10 installation media, then change the /etc/apt/sources.list everything works as it should, my sound card is correctly detected, and I have screen reader during installation, I have screen reader when booting into Debian and I can use the MATE Graphical Environment as my us

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Jordan, Your post makes very little sense to me. I don't know what "refi system" means. Also unless my memory is incorrect, Debian comes up with a screen reader and tells you what to do to install it. If it doesn't it should, but I believe that has already been done. Earlier I had made comments

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jordan Livesey
I have tried one time but was unable to get speech output and was using a virtual machine due to my machine being a secure boot system, the debian installer is my favorite text based installer but I like how features are being borrowed from it, I've yet to do a debian installation video on youtube

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Didier Spaier
The Slint installer borrows at least one feature from the Debian installer: the way sound cards are probed just after booting, to find a working one (thanks Samuel). More generally, sharing ideas and features between distribution benefit users of all of them. Trying to find which one is the best i

Re: Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread Jordan Livesey
Another thing, about the installer, even if you don’t know how to get speech on, this is for anyone new, they can just press the down arrow 5 times on the boot menu on an refi system, plus on supported systems, like my old Lenovo, you hear 2 beeps, I believe the current project leader is also vi

Debian Accessibility

2021-12-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Hello, friendly list, this discussion was inside another discussion and perhaps partly because of my poor choice of words, was thought to be a distro flame war, but that was never my intention or desire. I want to make a point about Accessibility in general and Accessibility in Debian in particula

Re: Validez votre adresse e-mail: [debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org]

2021-05-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
This is just spam, of course, don't do anything about this Samuel Webmail ServerHost, le sam. 29 mai 2021 09:07:31 -0700, a ecrit: > Attention: Re: E-mail de mise à jour pour > debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > Veuillez noter que nous validons tous les comptes de messa

Validez votre adresse e-mail: [debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org]

2021-05-29 Thread Webmail ServerHost
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Bug#941013: libvte-2.91-0: Please make this accessible to help Debian accessibility

2020-04-18 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
installing accessibility), and to value the Debian accessibility work in general? If we accept to do what upstream refuses, it would be the mark of our involvement in accessibility in this distro. The patch is already done. At least, I would like to have it in experimental or sid to test if users

Re: notions on Debian accessibility

2020-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Rich Morin, le lun. 24 févr. 2020 08:22:06 -0800, a ecrit: > The first notion has to do with the initial accessibility of the system. > There is probably a minimum set of tools (e.g., Fenrir, Orca) that would let > a user get started. If these were installed and configured properly on a

Re: notions on Debian accessibility

2020-02-24 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi, To make this answer concrete for you, here is what happens: - when the media boots, a beep announces that something is waiting - pressing s runs the speech installer, via Speakup - enter with a braille display connected runs BRLTTY - the MATE desktop is automatically installed as the most acc

Re: notions on Debian accessibility

2020-02-24 Thread john doe
On 2/24/2020 5:22 PM, Rich Morin wrote: > I have some (probably naive) notions on improving the turnkey accessibility > of Debian and downstream distributions such as Raspbian and Ubuntu. Can > folks let me know whether any of these are feasible, already in place, etc? > > The first notion has t

notions on Debian accessibility

2020-02-24 Thread Rich Morin
I have some (probably naive) notions on improving the turnkey accessibility of Debian and downstream distributions such as Raspbian and Ubuntu. Can folks let me know whether any of these are feasible, already in place, etc? The first notion has to do with the initial accessibility of the system

kind words to Debian accessibility developers

2019-07-18 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
Dear specialists, Please receive my deepest possible appreciation related to Debian 10 stability and accessibility. You have made really many many complex job and you have made stable, robust and fully accessible operating system. You have tuned all necessary parts so operating system is really

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-06-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
That should work then. Maybe I can put a flash drive together and mail it. On Sat, 1 Jun 2019, isfeldt wrote: > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 13:08:17 > From: isfeldt > To: john doe , debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive &

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-06-01 Thread isfeldt
up or down arrow, to cycle through which device you wanted the boot from Etc. Original message From: john doe Date: 6/1/19 03:04 (GMT-06:00) To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive On 5/31/2019 11:01 PM, Don Raikes

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-06-01 Thread isfeldt
, and then actually hit the enter key afterwards, a few minutes later the talking installer will come up which is console-based. Original message From: john doe Date: 6/1/19 03:04 (GMT-06:00) To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: installing debian accessib

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-06-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
Debian makes no sound when the boot prompt comes up. So in my case I'd never know when the boot prompt came up and couldn't enable speech. On Sat, 1 Jun 2019, john doe wrote: > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 04:04:55 > From: john doe > To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > S

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-06-01 Thread john doe
On 5/31/2019 11:01 PM, Don Raikes wrote: > Hi, > > > > I haven't looked at debian accessibility in a long time. I am looking for a > strictly console-based debian blend with console screenreaders and braille > built-in. > > > > I need to be able to install t

Re: installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-05-31 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
: 6e464f38f0dc8fc834ee8a367a529f68 ./Vinux-CLI-max-2.1.iso Best wishes, David On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:54 PM Don Raikes wrote: > Hi, > > > > I haven’t looked at debian accessibility in a long time. I am looking for > a strictly console-based debian blend with console screenreaders and > braille bui

installing debian accessibility on a flashdrive

2019-05-31 Thread Don Raikes
Hi, I haven't looked at debian accessibility in a long time. I am looking for a strictly console-based debian blend with console screenreaders and braille built-in. I need to be able to install the resulting distro onto a flash drive as a live system. Are there any instruction

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-25 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 15/03/2018 à 16:47, michael caron couturier a écrit : Yes I build a distro slowly, I have an interface for colorblinds tested ready to pack but to fix accessibility for real on Linux I have to create a distro in a proper way so I can't simply join Debian team, I will later push my changes howe

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-25 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 15/03/2018 à 15:53, michael caron couturier a écrit : If you need at all cost to see to under that accessibility isn't on a build made from the mini iso : https://i.imgur.com/VIVjeSl.png What your screenshot means is you've install Debian without accessibility enabled on the installation m

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, michael caron couturier, on ven. 16 mars 2018 01:11:35 -0400, wrote: > Minimal iso is worthless for an accessibility user and you would break > the purpose of it by adding accessibility, it's clay to build from > with the only bare minimum. Well, "bare minimum" does not mean "inaccessible"

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-16 Thread john doe
On 3/16/2018 6:11 AM, michael caron couturier wrote: Minimal iso is worthless for an accessibility user and you would break the purpose of it by adding accessibility, it's clay to build from with the only bare minimum. Adding the packages later didn't fixed the issue since there's a configuratio

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread michael caron couturier
Minimal iso is worthless for an accessibility user and you would break the purpose of it by adding accessibility, it's clay to build from with the only bare minimum. Adding the packages later didn't fixed the issue since there's a configuration (dotfiles) that manage accessibility. 2018-03-15 12:

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 11:47:37 -0400, wrote: > Skip since you obviously don't understand ... Well, if I can't understand, it will be hard for you to get any answer, so we need to discuss so I can understand. > There's no accessibility in the mini iso, I would have used it,

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread michael caron couturier
Skip since you obviously don't understand ... There's no accessibility in the mini iso, I would have used it, installed gnome-orca and brltty don't add accessibility options. Yes I build a distro slowly, I have an interface for colorblinds tested ready to pack but to fix accessibility for real on

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 10:53:32 -0400, wrote: > If you need at all cost to see to under that accessibility isn't on a > build made from the mini iso : > > https://i.imgur.com/VIVjeSl.png You mean you installed Debian without using accessibility, and then you got a system wh

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 10:46:52 -0400, wrote: > Man could you do what was asked ? > I wanted to know the config not touch the documentation, I already answered the original question: we do not do tweaks beyond what is documented on the wiki. If that is not what you wanted t

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread michael caron couturier
If you need at all cost to see to under that accessibility isn't on a build made from the mini iso : https://i.imgur.com/VIVjeSl.png 2018-03-15 10:46 UTC−04:00, michael caron couturier : > Man could you do what was asked ? > > I wanted to know the config not touch the documentation, accessibility

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread michael caron couturier
Man could you do what was asked ? I wanted to know the config not touch the documentation, accessibility isn't on the mini iso, I installed anyway cause I have to start there, there's no point to add accessibility to this minimal iso anyway, it won't fit the purpose but someone building up from i

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 03:56:39 -0400, wrote: > "Accessibility support is available on all images except the non-gtk > mini.iso image." > > https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility Ok, so the bug was in the documentation, which I have now fixed,

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread michael caron couturier
"Accessibility support is available on all images except the non-gtk mini.iso image." https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility 2018-03-15 3:54 UTC−04:00, Samuel Thibault : > michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 22:41:31 -0400, wrote: >> Mini iso don't, > > How

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 22:41:31 -0400, wrote: > Mini iso don't, How so? What doesn't work? If you don't provide details, we can't fix bugs, because for all that I know, it just works. Samuel

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-14 Thread michael caron couturier
Mini iso don't, net install include accessibility but I try to build a distro slowly so I start with the bare minimum ... 2018-03-14 20:22 UTC−04:00, Samuel Thibault : > michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 20:00:07 -0400, wrote: >> I asked cause mini iso don't include accessibility > > I

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 20:00:07 -0400, wrote: > I asked cause mini iso don't include accessibility It does include it. Or else it's a bug that shall be reported and fixed. Note however that for speakup support you need to take the gtk mini.iso, which doesn't have size cons

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-14 Thread michael caron couturier
I asked cause mini iso don't include accessibility so I need to replicate the usual settings ... 2018-03-14 17:09 UTC−04:00, Samuel Thibault : > Hello, > > michael caron couturier, on lun. 12 mars 2018 12:42:04 -0400, wrote: >> I just build up from the minimal iso into a Mate desktop, what are the

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, michael caron couturier, on lun. 12 mars 2018 12:42:04 -0400, wrote: > I just build up from the minimal iso into a Mate desktop, what are the > packages and settings done for accessibility on Debian, do you mod > some to improve accessibility and how ? There aren't realy tweaks, only makin

Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-12 Thread michael caron couturier
I just build up from the minimal iso into a Mate desktop, what are the packages and settings done for accessibility on Debian, do you mod some to improve accessibility and how ? -- Michaël Caron Couturier

Debian Accessibility Blends code moved to Salsa

2018-02-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, just to let you know I have moved the Blends code to create Debian Accessibility tasks pages[1] from SVN to Salsa[2]. I've also added Samuel Thibault as member of the Blends team so he has immediate commit permissions. Anybody else please register on alioth and ask for team membe

Re: Installing Debian - accessibility question

2017-12-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
you as it downloads and continues retrying bad blocks until you get the clean blocks from the internet. On Sat, 16 Dec 2017, john doe wrote: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:33:03 From: john doe To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Installing Debian - accessibility question Resent

Re: Installing Debian - accessibility question

2017-12-15 Thread john doe
On 12/15/2017 5:36 PM, Egon wrote: Hi All! I am a total blind user, i want to install Debian stable. Which graphical environment works best with Orca, Gnome or Mate? What is the best installation media for full accessibility? I only use Gnome. Gnome accessibility is ok but you will soon find

Re: Installing Debian - accessibility question

2017-12-15 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hi Egon, Mate and GNOME are both fine and both have things which do and which don't work. I tend to use Mate, but that's because I like the interface. I think nearly all media are accessible (except for the tiny business card one, if it still exists). I usually go for a mate CD. Instructions for

Installing Debian - accessibility question

2017-12-15 Thread Egon
Hi All! I am a total blind user, i want to install Debian stable. Which graphical environment works best with Orca, Gnome or Mate? What is the best installation media for full accessibility? Do I download the Debian Official Live CD (with Gnome or Mate), or do I install the system from a stand

Debian accessibility bugs from a low-vision point of view

2017-08-30 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 24/08/2017 à 22:20, Samuel Wales a écrit : [by huge fonts i meant being able to increase font size in all areas of debian to huge. by huge dpi i meant having dpi be respected as a scaling factor. by no blinking i meant ability to make all cursors, such as in console, not blink, and do so rel

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on ven. 25 août 2017 19:10:31 +0200, wrote: > Thanks. If Paul or Sam want to complete the wiki with this, ti would be nice > as I have done so. Samuel

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Thanks. If Paul or Sam want to complete the wiki with this, ti would be nice as I am afraid creating mess doing myself, I dont know present things and missing things. BTW: a bugreport will be done soon as daisy-player seems to be unusable now. Regards Le 25/08/2017 à 16:36, chrys a écrit : >

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread chrys
Howdy, you can find information on http://linux-a11y.org/ and https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/ SOPS: https://github.com/chrys87/simple-orca-plugin-system/releases/tag/1.01 Plugins installed by default: - read clipboard - read current workspace number - Plugin manager other available plugins: - audi

Re : Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Thanks Paul for your feedback. Let's wait for Chrys' feedback. Jean-Philippe MENGUAL HYPRA, progressons ensemble Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 Mail: cont...@hypra.fr Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr - Paul Gevers a écrit : > Hi, > > Thanks for letting us know. > > On 08/25/17 13:32, ch...@linux-a

Re : Re: Re : Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Thanks, I had mispelled the name. I add as soon as we have source from Chrys for each project. Jean-Philippe MENGUAL HYPRA, progressons ensemble Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 Mail: cont...@hypra.fr Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr - Samuel Thibault a écrit : > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on ven. 25 aoû

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, Thanks for letting us know. On 08/25/17 13:32, ch...@linux-a11y.org wrote: > - OCRdesktop (useful reading pictures or interact with non accessible > software) > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=ocrdesktop And indeed already mentioned on the TODO list: https://wiki.debian.org/accessibi

Re: Re : Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on ven. 25 août 2017 13:54:31 +0200, wrote: > Right. I suggest we add this in todolist on wiki.debian.org/accessibility > I will do if no one does it but I dont know where is the todo exactly. It's on the accessibility-devel page. Note that fenrir is already packaged. Samue

Re : Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
- ch...@linux-a11y.org a écrit : > Howdy, > > i dont want to start a rant lol but: > for ArchLinux this is not totaly correct. There is Talkingarch as > useable installation medium (its not an fully customized distro but > just an accessible installation medium that could been used to cre

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-25 Thread chrys
Howdy, i dont want to start a rant lol but: for ArchLinux this is not totaly correct. There is Talkingarch as useable installation medium (its not an fully customized distro but just an accessible installation medium that could been used to create an accessible operationg system setup). M

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Morally speaking, Debian is simply the most accessible distro today. So it is an example in itself. And it is the only distro where in decisionsal processes, accessibility is considered as a matter (eg choice of desktop environment). Ubuntu stopped specific devs in accessibility, Fedora is not real

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
moral leadership can be powerful all by itself. On 8/24/17, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Wales, on jeu. 24 août 2017 13:46:35 -0700, wrote: >> practically everything in debian is an upstream issue, except e.g. pm, >> installer, repo, right? > > Yes. > >> actually no -- policy is a debian issu

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Wales, on jeu. 24 août 2017 13:46:35 -0700, wrote: > practically everything in debian is an upstream issue, except e.g. pm, > installer, repo, right? Yes. > actually no -- policy is a debian issue. :) i'd like debian to be a > sort of moral leader if nothing else. debian articulates a g

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
practically everything in debian is an upstream issue, except e.g. pm, installer, repo, right? actually no -- policy is a debian issue. :) i'd like debian to be a sort of moral leader if nothing else. debian articulates a goal. i'd like accessibility to be part of that. On 8/24/17, Samuel Th

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Wales, on jeu. 24 août 2017 13:20:19 -0700, wrote: > [by huge fonts i meant being able to increase font size in all areas > of debian to huge. by huge dpi i meant having dpi be respected as a > scaling factor. by no blinking i meant ability to make all cursors, > such as in console

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
[by huge fonts i meant being able to increase font size in all areas of debian to huge. by huge dpi i meant having dpi be respected as a scaling factor. by no blinking i meant ability to make all cursors, such as in console, not blink, and do so reliably even after e.g. emacs invocation. by ddcc

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Wales, on mar. 08 août 2017 18:06:54 -0700, wrote: > debian is the only linux i have used, so i don't know. it's possible > in principle that most issues [huge fonts, huge dpi, no blinking, > etc.] are general to linux, but i think of debian as a leader in linux > and free unix. We

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-08 Thread Samuel Wales
debian is the only linux i have used, so i don't know. it's possible in principle that most issues [huge fonts, huge dpi, no blinking, etc.] are general to linux, but i think of debian as a leader in linux and free unix. [some are potential broken packages, suggesting that they might in principle

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Wales, on mar. 08 août 2017 14:38:15 -0700, wrote: > i am finding debian quite inaccessible to me and fear not being able > to use it at all. so i appreciate your work. Do you mean Debian in particulier, or Linux in general? Samuel

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-08-08 Thread Samuel Wales
thank you for clarification. i am finding debian quite inaccessible to me and fear not being able to use it at all. so i appreciate your work. On 7/28/17, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Samuel Wales, on ven. 28 juil. 2017 16:51:38 -0700, wrote: >> is accessibility [of all types] a formal

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 29-07-17 12:59, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Of course, it is possible. Just change jessie to testing in you Replace testing with stretch of course. Absolutely no need to go to testing, as that is probably not what the Mark wanted. > sources.list and apt-get update then apt-get dist-upg

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Of course, it is possible. Just change jessie to testing in you sources.list and apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade Be careful: it may be long as many packages will be updated, and it may cause some little problems if you have a twickde system, but it should go fine, I tried on a new

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mark Peveto, on sam. 29 juil. 2017 11:56:01 -0500, wrote: > Is there a way to upgrade to stretch without having to totally reinstall my > entire system? See the upgrade part of the Stretch release notes http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html Samuel

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread Mark Peveto
Is there a way to upgrade to stretch without having to totally reinstall my entire system? I'm working with Jessie now using the mate desktop environment. It isn't the testing release. If a total system install is required, I'll probably just stick with what I've got, especially since I've got

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
ok I will study that. Actually it concerns bugs present on GNOME2, eg. related to panel or alt-f2 behavior. Of course, everything has been changed since this time. I will try to have a thought about it. Regares Le 29/07/2017 à 09:33, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on sam.

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on sam. 29 juil. 2017 01:47:34 +0200, wrote: > I also saw that some of them are old and likely deprecated. Still > true, but no longer relevant with newest releases of packages. Should > I close them, or let them opened for doc-purpose? What do you mean by "no longer relevan

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-28 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, thanks for these news. About tags: I started with sorting my bugreports and sii you have already tagged most of them. I also saw that some of them are old and likely deprecated. Still true, but no longer relevant with newest releases of packages. Should I close them, or let them opened for

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Wales, on ven. 28 juil. 2017 16:51:38 -0700, wrote: > is accessibility [of all types] a formal priority in debian yet? e.g. > in social contract? The Social Contract says “Our priorities are our users and free software We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free soft

Re: Debian accessibility news

2017-07-28 Thread Samuel Wales
is accessibility [of all types] a formal priority in debian yet? e.g. in social contract? -- The Kafka Pandemic: The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY can get it at any time. "You’ve really gotta quit this and get moving, b

Debian accessibility news

2017-07-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Just a few news items: - I should have pointed it out earlier: with Debian Stretch being released, accessibility is now enabled by default. This means that notably, on a Debian system running the gnome desktop, you just need to press super-alt-s. There is no need to click some "ena

Re: debian accessibility mailing list

2017-06-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
requested the creation of the pkg-a11y-devel list on > > Alioth, which should happen within 6-24 hours. I'll notify the > > debian-accessibility@ list when that's done so people can subscribe to > > it if they wish. > > It is now created, subscription can be achieved

Re: debian accessibility mailing list

2017-05-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
n within 6-24 hours. I'll notify the > debian-accessibility@ list when that's done so people can subscribe to > it if they wish. It is now created, subscription can be achieved on https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-a11y-devel Samuel

Re: debian accessibility mailing list

2017-05-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Some context for debian-accessibility people: On the blinux list, it was asked: > Is there any way to get on a general debian list at debian.org without > ending up on all the bug trackers and such? Only then I realized that these development trackers & co might be a burden for peop

Re: can i take the new espeak-ng and speech-dispatchee from debian accessibility and install to vinux?

2017-04-10 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Le 10/04/2017 à 06:34, Amir-Trend Plus a écrit : Hi, i want to install debian but i am a new user, so i dont know how to get it installed. last time i tried, it was stucked at the network issue, since my pc is using wifi and not land connection. Oh, It's a matter of firmware. You could ask the

can i take the new espeak-ng and speech-dispatchee from debian accessibility and install to vinux?

2017-04-09 Thread Amir-Trend Plus
Hi, i want to install debian but i am a new user, so i dont know how to get it installed. last time i tried, it was stucked at the network issue, since my pc is using wifi and not land connection. So, i decided to use vinux, until the live cd installer gets accessible, because i prefer installing f

Re: translate "Debian Accessibility"? (the name of the blend)

2016-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Laura Arjona Reina, on Thu 28 Jan 2016 18:30:11 +0100, wrote: > Should "Debian Accessibility" (the name of the blend) be translated? In > Spanish it would be "Debian Accesibilidad". Or better to keep it as > is, as a "brand"? Better translate, I&

translate "Debian Accessibility"? (the name of the blend)

2016-01-28 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
e are thinking about if translating the names of the blends or not. We would do what you consider better, and we'll do our best to keep consistency across website, package descriptions, etc. Should "Debian Accessibility" (the name of the blend) be translated? In Spanish it would be &

re: Debian accessibility

2014-02-02 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
I've had mixed experience with the ITSELFCE desktop. I got Orca to start, but couldn't access anything unless it was inside a terminal. And that was aproximately a week or two ago. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &q

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