Changing Word-wrap and Text Attributes in Man Pages

2004-09-08 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, I'm not dead certain about Debian as my terminal emulator might alsso affect matters, but I do know that in SunOS it tends to format man-pages kind of annoyingly. It cuts lines mid-word, in stead of moving the word that would be split completely in the next line. How's this in Debian by defa

Re: Console Access with Speech, Even During Install?

2004-09-08 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: you will have to remove something from the disk to make room. Ah, now I see what you mean. This reminds me of trying to fit software on DOS boot floppies. Would disk compression as in Knoppix help? And I remember reading somewhere that you can actually fit 1.72 MB on a 1.4 MB fl

Re: Yasr Questions, Optimizing Output for Speech -- corrected code

2004-09-04 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, Umm about the code in my first reply, just noticed the while lacks a semicolon, oh well. Then again, it's about one in the morning here . Corrected version: char* redundancyFilter(char* c, const char* p) { // c = current output, p = previous const char* cStart = c; do { if(*c == *p

Re: Yasr Questions, Optimizing Output for Speech

2004-09-04 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
amp; isalpha(*c)) *c = ' '; } while(++c && ++p) return cStart; } // redundancyFilter -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and more: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila Veli-Pekka Tatila wrote: Hi, Just got Yasr working wit

Yasr Questions, Optimizing Output for Speech

2004-09-04 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, Just got Yasr working with Festival Lite and it seems to work just fine. A couple of questions related to Yasr and shells, though: Is there a way of making Festival Lite go faster? I already set the speed to the maximum in the Yasr options but would prefer something even higher. I've notice

Gnome Theme Editor, High Contrast Critique

2004-09-01 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, I took a real quick look at Gnome theming recently and it would seem it is a lot more difficult than I initially thought. It's partially explained by the complexity and power offered but it is still a lot harder than it should be in my opinion. Even the high contrast theme file looks pretty

Re: Gnopernicus Won't Speak, though Gnome Sound Works

2004-09-01 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Mario, It would seem that the problems are not lib related. Oddly enough, sound worked perfectly when my friend connected over SSH as root. Now that I tried the same thing locally, no speech in Gnopernicus and Gnome sound seems to work only occasionally. Also, I added my primary user account

Re: Gnopernicus Won't Speak, though Gnome Sound Works

2004-08-31 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Mario, Just a quick note to let you know that I solved the problem. We installed some development tools related to Festival and it semed to cure the issue. Gnopernicus now works on the Gnome side and I can access the Linux consoles through the serial port. Things I'm still missing include: ma

Gnopernicus Won't Speak, though Gnome Sound Works

2004-08-30 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi list, Now sound works both in the console and in Gnome just fine. Festival and Flight speak all right in the console and even the Festival server is running, I think. However, Gnopernicus doesn't give any speech output at all. When testing the Kevin Festival voice in Gnopernicus, it says the

Re: Console Access with Speech, Even During Install?

2004-08-29 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: have to write a program to do it. Umm, I believe there's already a digital audio PC speaker driver for Linux. I've even heard there's one for parallel port do it yourself DACs, typical Linux attitude. Space is limited on an installer disk, Well not so limited in USB mass storag

Re: Gnome Themes

2004-08-29 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Once you have Gnome and probably gnopernicus up and running, Gnome does run but Gnopernicus has no sound. My friend forgot to apply the changes so that sound will work after a reboot and I'll have to wait for him to fix the system. There was a nice howto about AWE cards and Debi

Low-res X Working, Gnome Themes

2004-08-27 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, Yet another small personal victory concerning Linux accessibility. I asked around in various places regarding the X low-res problems I had. a friend of mine, whose a die-hard Amiga user on a side note, passed on the query and told me that adding these three lines in the monitor section shoul

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Your feelings are from getting thrown into something new and clearly very different. Agreed. I reckon I'll get used to things eventually. And there's still that GUI side in Linux, though it's optional. what would happen if you opened "My computer", selected your hd, and press

Re: Shells and Syntax Again

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: No, Linux is for people who know what they are doing :-). Hehe, see what you mean . Yeah, and where do you get the diskspace from? Well, I've got only 10 GB on this Linux box but provided that I'll install Debian on the other machines at some point, they have loads more. Disk spa

Re: Shells and Syntax Again

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Thomas Tempé (Johnix) wrote: However, I believe you'd have to implement an "undelete" mechanism in the filesystem. I thought so, too. THe lack of such an undo mechanism isn't that bad, these are just ideas that I think would be cool, and that might be possible in Linux. I'll consider scripting a

Re: Networking and software speech with Speakup

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Kenny, I'm snipping heavily as I've resolved the networking stuff. THX to everyone taking part. Kenny Hitt wrote: software speech requires a working sound card and other programs to work. During the initial install, a hardware synth is the only way to go. I see what you mean. That is software

Re: Networking and software speech with Speakup

2004-08-26 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote:> You want to add "3c59x" to /etc/modules to get your network card Yep, already did that. My friend heldped me to carry out the commands needed to configure the network and all. NOw the networking side works again, W00T. ALso, we got the sound working, too, without even having to

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Gnopernicus is supposet to work with Swing. Ah another question out of the way. THX for the info. thinking the only way to use a computer is with a GUI. I'm not thinking that way but I do admit I was mostly talking about X accessibility here. That isn't a big loss, just annoying

Re: Shells and Syntax Again (Was: X Accessibility)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Thomas Tempé (Johnix) wrote: I would advise you to get used to the unix shell syntax. Being less verbose, it is much more expressive (single-letter free-floating modifiers Well, it is easy for you to say . Coming from a DOS background, I have no trouble with single letter switches or even the Un

Re: Shells, Mplayer and Security (WAS: X Accessibility ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: no, cause install here is an action not an option or switch I think I understand, now. so you are saying it defines a completely different mode of command-line interaction in stead of toggling some boolean flag or supplying a string. ~$ sudo apt-get What does sudo stand fo

Re: Networking and software speech with Speakup

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Kenny, Having just accidentally deleted your original I had to dig it up in the archives. I'm posting with the same subject so hope it'll occupy the right place in the message tree, hehe. Kenny Hitt wrote: You probably want to try modconf. Since it was detected in Woody, it should have still

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: There were major changes from GTK1 to GTK2, so programs have to be rewritten to use GTK2. Not sure if it's anything like that. But the transition from AWT to Swing comes to mind on the Java side. Now the ironic thing is that my Windows screen reader, Supernova, cannot read any S

Re: system security, Networking and Speakup

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Just letting anyone install system wide packages is a bad idea. This approach is one of the important differences betwene Windows and Unix I see what you mean. It's true far too many Windows users run as admins, though XP finally includes proper security. As far as I know, OS X

Re: Shells, Mplayer and Security (WAS: X Accessibility ...)

2004-08-25 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: no codecs are only used for compress/decompress audio/videio in/output even for the Video4Linux stuff. i didn't know that. Well, I ment what I'd call effects, plugs that modify their input in stead of just converting it. sox that also does file-conversion. Sounds a bit tric

Re: X Accessibility

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: GTK1 is not accessible, but GTK2 adds accessibility to most of the default widgets, I see. How detailed info can you get, are you able to tell font styles, sizes and names as well not to mention colors in RGB or some verbal format? in the long run, its probably much better to pa

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: I don't think xmms codecs are supported, but I'm not sure. By codec , do you really mean compressor decompressor or something more sophisticated? To me codecs are algorithms that turn some compressed file format into ordinary PCM that the player can then play back. The kind

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
µAndor Demarteau wrote: yes mplayer does. Can I still use XMMS plug-ins in mplayer natively or through some wrapper? Also, I seem to dislike the name Mplayer, and I think I know the reason as well. In Windows, I usually launch apps through the run box and the name for the Windows Media Player ex

Re: X Accessibility (Was: Gnopernicus ...)

2004-08-24 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: The GUI version of alsamixer uses GTK2, so it's accessible. Ah very nice,. One thing that really sucks in terms of usability, though, is that there can often be so many channels that you'll actually have to scroll around the mixer to see them all. I wonder if it auto-scrolls if

Re: Gnopernicus and Screen Reading Philosophy (Was: Getting 320x200 in X ...)

2004-08-23 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Most of the improvements in Gnome 2.6 are bug fixes. Ah nice to know. I'd have hoped for easier Gnopernicus installation and proper fullscreen magnification but you cannot have everything. And it is good you don't have to update to the next OS version to get minor accessory upd

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-23 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: your ls -al should show it. Well, it doesn't seem to do that. Does this mean that those DSP links are there but are not pointing to any file in particular, if that's even possible? Here's the relevant output: celeron:~# ls -al /dev/dsp* crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Mar 1

Updating the Kernel, Sound Support

2004-08-23 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi list, Sorry to bother you with yet another newbie question but: I spawned this new thread strictly about sound support and updating the kernel via apt-get. By the way, I've just succesfully upgraded from Stable to Testing. I'm trying to get the sound working for an ISA Sound Blaster AWE32 and

Re: Getting 320x200 in X, Installing Gnome with apt-get

2004-08-22 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Kenny Hitt wrote: Gnome 2.6 is the version in unstable. I believe it is also now the version in testing also. Thanks for the info. I'm curious to know what's new in terms of accessibility in 2.6 in contrast to 2.4. The last time I checked the Gnome home page, it just said that they'll be writing

Re: Getting 320x200 in X, Installing Gnome with apt-get

2004-08-22 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Andor, Ok, I think I'll move onto testing as I'm interested in newer Gnome versions such as 2.6. I've changed all references in my sources.list from stable to testing and am running apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade right now. Hope this is the right action. I got the impression it shoul

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-22 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: on my systems it points to /dev/dsp0 Ok will check thatt. Umm how exactly? I tried: file /dev/dsp and ls -la /dev/dsp* but neither of them showed me the target of the link as far as I can tell. THere are no arrows "->" at least. A silly newbie question, how do I show where a

Re: Getting 320x200 in X, Installing Gnome with apt-get

2004-08-22 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Andor and sorry for the delay, I haven't had time to experiment with Linux too much recently. probably apt-get install gnome will do the trick. Umm the funny bit is, it won't. I've tried three different spellings: gnome, Gnome and GNOME, none of which have worked so far. It just says that this

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-20 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: Yes, that is actually expected behaviour. The installer should detect if your initial choice was a serial console, and configure the installed system accordingly. Ah nice, just as it should be. If you want to use ALSA, you should probably upgrade to kernel 2.6, since I suppose I'

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-20 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: devicefiles are present yes, this doesn't mena that there are devices attached to the files. Ah, I see. I know that dev/dsp is a symbolik link but that's about it. I'm bit unsure as to where it should actually be pointing at. Mandrake 9.2 used to lose the sound card on anot

Getting 320x200 in X, Installing Gnome with apt-get

2004-08-20 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, I'm planning to diagnose and configure my sound hardware on the X side in KDE, and am also somewhat interested in the GUI side in general. It seems my sound does not work at least in Festival or else it might just be the mixer settings. However, I'll be starting another thread for these soun

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-19 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi Mario, First some updates on where I'm going now. I followed this tutorial here: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016 and managed to get Debian installed all right, yahoo. I was initially a bit lost regarding the lilo boot prompt but could seee even without magnification that it was pr

Re: W00t, It Speaks, One Final Question (was: Serial Install ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: advice you to try 38400 as well cause it's way faster then the 9600 and would make it easier to work. How high can you go with modern serial ports? I've seen choices as high as 115000 bits or something. well I suspect that the kernel you are using has serial-consoel enabeld

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-18 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: you could also use your knowledge of programming languages to improve the overall situation for yourself. Yeah, that's true. I need to learn the Linux specific stuff first but I've been thinking of contributing something someday, once I become guru enough, hehe. impossible to

Re: W00t, It Speaks, One Final Question (was: Serial Install ...)

2004-08-17 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, I'm replying to my own message actually. This is just a quick note to let you know that after having substituted the small s with a capital one in console=ttyS0, serial output now works as expected. This is highly cool, I can see it slowly drawing the ASCII graphics on the virtual terminal s

Re: Serial Install Help and IRC Daemon Idea (WAS: New Member INtro ...)

2004-08-17 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: may be able to use existing code for the connection and protocl handeling. Umm, I thought it'd be so, too. probably need to write a complete new deamonish version. I was sort of hoping I'd be able to start working on someone else's sources, one advantage of open source, defi

Re: Serial Install Help and IRC Daemon Idea (WAS: New Member INtro ...)

2004-08-17 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Andor Demarteau wrote: It's hard enough to follow busy irc-hcannels let alone working in between the lines. That's a valid point. I don't usually go to busy channels, though, this would be one-on-one talk with a friend. Also, the client could only show new messages on enter presses like the new

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-17 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: BRLTTY apparently has a driver for this synth since version 3.5 or so. Ah very nice. The lack of an EmacsSpeake server isn't that bad actually. You should probably summarize your feelings about Gnopernicus Magnification and send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll consider that opti

Re: New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-16 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Mario Lang wrote: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-accessibility/software.html> I'll check that out, thanks. I already read your page about Debian accessibility having found it with a bit of Googling a while back. I'm afraid that there is very little internationalized software speech support ye

New Member Intro, Installation Help

2004-08-15 Thread Veli-Pekka Tatila
Hi, As this is my first post in here, I thought a little intro would be ok. I'm a 20-year-old, Finnish guy studying information processing science at the university of Oulu. I've been using computers practically half of my life, and know most flavors of DOs (5 and onwards) as well as Windows (95