Re: Supporting Orca keyboard commands without GTK+ or any other toolkit

2015-07-03 Thread Luca Saiu
y it. You and the whole accessibility community are extremely nice to work with. Thanks! -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://hypra.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Supporting Orca keyboard commands without GTK+ or any other toolkit

2015-07-02 Thread Luca Saiu
ure that even GTK+ has no specific knowledge about Orca keybindings. What am I missing? Is there a way for an application to notify the accessibility subsystem that an appropriate but unspecified set of keyboard (or mouse?) events is to be trapped? Thanks, -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble 

Re: "[window title] inaccessible": where does it come from, and what does it mean?

2015-07-02 Thread Luca Saiu
ding g_signal_emit_by_name (main_accessible, "state-change", "focused", 1); does indeed improve the situation a lot. There are still a few behaviors I don't understand, but now Orca can see my program state independently from when it starts. > https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessi

Re: Signals versus methods in ATK

2015-07-01 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello Alejandro. On 2015-07-01 at 15:11, Alejandro Piñeiro wrote: > After re-reading my email, it is not exactly really well-structured. Don't worry, it was perfectly clear. I appreciate you taking the time to write such a thorough response. Regards, -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Pro

Re: "[window title] inaccessible": where does it come from, and what does it mean?

2015-07-01 Thread Luca Saiu
y be, to your expert eye. What I am missing? Shall I emit some ATK signals I'm currently forgetting at some point? Thank you very much for your help, and for your work. [1] http://osdir.com/ml/debian-accessibility/2015-07/msg0.html -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://

Signals versus methods in ATK

2015-07-01 Thread Luca Saiu
, I am supposed to always just call set_ methods, and not emit signals; when implemented correctly those methods would emit signals as needed. This I deduced from the source code. Would you please confirm that my understanding is correct? Thanks in advance, -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons e

Re: "[window title] inaccessible": where does it come from, and what does it mean?

2015-06-29 Thread Luca Saiu
le. But of course, if that is currently needed because of temporary hacks, we can work on that. Anyway my idea, possibly not yet correctly implemented, consists in having a main ATK widget implementing AtkText. Do I need to generate (or handle) any particular event, for example at focus? Thanks

"[window title] inaccessible": where does it come from, and what does it mean?

2015-06-29 Thread Luca Saiu
ng doesn't appear in the Marco source code. Which criterion should I satisfy, exactly, for the screen reader not to give up? Thanks in advance, [1] http://osdir.com/ml/debian-accessibility/2015-06/msg00033.html -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://hypra.fr -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Describing an application state in ATK, without Gtk

2015-06-29 Thread Luca Saiu
be called or for my application to be recognized as "accessible" when I switch to its window. For that I'm still trying to explicitly emit signals via g_signal_emit_by_name. Do you think that's the wrong way ? Thanks, -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://hypra.

Re: Describing an application state in ATK, without Gtk

2015-06-25 Thread Luca Saiu
isting) interface with an application containing a window containing a label, just to show the label? I can if needed, but I'd prefer not to have to implement a different set of interface for the window and the label. Am I completely free in this or shall I follow some fixed schema? Thanking

Re: Describing an application state in ATK, without Gtk

2015-06-22 Thread Luca Saiu
t-spi2-atk/tests. They are still unit tests, but they set all the > stack. Take a look to see if it is what you need. Will do. Thanks again. -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://hypra.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Describing an application state in ATK, without Gtk

2015-06-21 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2015-06-22 at 03:21, Luca Saiu wrote: > I've played with ATK but I'm sure there's something I don't get. The > most comprehensible examples I've found are in the atk testsuite, but > those are obviously intended as unit tests, and running them has no > inf

Describing an application state in ATK, without Gtk

2015-06-21 Thread Luca Saiu
suggestion for my case? Thanks, [1] https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/dev-start-5.html.en [2] https://accessibility.kde.org/developer/atk.php [3] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8067481 -- Luca Saiu HYPRA -- Progressons ensemble : http://hypra.fr -- To UNSUB

Re: Command-line utility to display text on the Braille terminal

2015-04-23 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2015-04-23 at 10:26, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Luca Saiu, le Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:31:55 +0200, a écrit : >> I guess it's harder than just cat'ting a string to the Braille terminal >> device file; if not, how do I find the device, querying brltty? > > Wha

Command-line utility to display text on the Braille terminal

2015-04-23 Thread Luca Saiu
solution would be widely considered unorthodox and ugly, but I'd be surprised if nobody ever thought of it before me. I guess it's harder than just cat'ting a string to the Braille terminal device file; if not, how do I find the device, querying brltty? Thanking you in advance, -- L

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
Thanks, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87iocp5zpj@hypra.fr

Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
anks a lot for the information, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87mw215zxw@hypra.fr

Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
e device. Would you happen to have any tips for further investigation? Thanks, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Accessibility of MATE logout dialogs

2015-04-17 Thread Luca Saiu
respect to accessibility. The only nontrivial point would be ensuring that no more than one dialog is active at a single time; I'd handle SIGCHLD for that. If you agree with this idea I'll send a patch. Thanks and best regards, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in co

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
to do it, sure. I'm asking to the Orca people as well. Thanks, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/874mok9dqc@hypra.fr

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello Samuel. On 2015-04-13 at 15:44, Samuel Thibault wrote: > The screen-reader side of the discussion would then > probably be the orca devel mailing list. Thanks. I'll write to the Orca list. -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
if disabled. Thanks, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87d2389g86@hypra.fr

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
be much simpler if it could be done that way. Worth investigating. Thanks, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2015-04-13 at 15:05, Luca Saiu wrote: > I was initially surprised after discovering that the window title is not > drawn with GTK Just to make this clear, the window title is vocalized *after* switching window, but that's too late. A blind user will want to cycle among the open

Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
g ATK without making a GTK label just for the purpose, or should I try some other route? Thanks in advance, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

MATE panel and keyboard focus

2015-02-23 Thread Luca Saiu
's possible as soon as posisble, so I'll take care not to step on your toes. Best regards, -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Replacing or taking precedence over an existing AT-SPI process

2014-11-28 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2014-11-28 at 19:21, Luca Saiu wrote: > wouldn't be unacceptable, even if in this case the issue is not moot, as ^^^ Of course I meant to write "now". -- Luca Saiu http://ageinghacker.net * GNU epsilon:

Replacing or taking precedence over an existing AT-SPI process

2014-11-28 Thread Luca Saiu
he same when AT-SPI connects to dbus. Is there some fundamental reason why my idea is wrong or unfeasible (for example, permissions)? Do you happen to have some pointers for me to look at to better understand the issue? Is this worth the trouble? Thanks for your time, -- Luca Saiu http://a

[ligthdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter] version policy

2014-11-28 Thread Luca Saiu
(and should) we "skip" versions and proceed to package a software which is possibly several versions more recent than the one in debian sid? Best regards, -- Luca Saiu http://ageinghacker.net * GNU epsilon: http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon * Vaucanson: http://vaucanson-projec