Bug#559564: brltty-udeb: generates warnings during boot of debian installer

2009-12-05 Thread Frans Pop
Package: brltty-udeb Version: 4.1-1 Severity: important Tags: d-i During boot of Debian Installer with udev version 148-2, I get a *lot* of warnings from /etc/udev/rules/brltty.rules, which is included in the udeb: udevd: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Why are we providing framebuffer drivers for a graphical installer? > That's insane too. As I reported earlier the added size to the initrd > for sound+speech synthesizer is 2MB. Which is an increase by 1/6! The main issue for me is that it make

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:59:22 +0200, a écrit : > > > So we could commit this for now? > > > > You should add amd64 as well. > > Ah, right. Committed with one correction: when you add a line to a help

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:06:57PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Index: build/boot/x86/f8.txt > > This would make this option appear in all images, even those where > speakup is not available, wouldn't it? > > f8.txt should probably be amen

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a écrit : > > I would suggest to only add speakup to the graphical installer > > images. Those are big already and already have a higher memory > > requirement. An extra in

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Frans Pop wrote: > That's the mini.iso for i386. Somehow we have grown by 2MB, over 35%! > We really should do an analysis of exactly where this increase comes > from. The increase of the netboot images is actually fairly easy to explain. Uncompressed

Re: speakup enabled d-i?

2008-09-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > The script part is integrated, what is left is just to add the kernel > modules to the initrd, the question was "which archs and which > targets?" For instance, the patch below adds it to x86 cdrom, hd-media > and netboot targets. I am oppos

Re: [PATCHv2] Make syslinux beep

2008-08-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Per Andersson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >> Here is an corrected patch > > > > Looks fine to me. > > Shouldn'

Re: [PATCHv2] Make syslinux beep

2008-08-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Here is an corrected patch Looks fine to me. Only wonder if it would not make more sense to rename the variable to BOOT_BEEP or BEEP_ON_BOOT or SYSLINUX_BEEP. MENU could easily be confused with the D-I main menu. signature.asc Description: T

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-08-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Frans Pop, le Tue 12 Aug 2008 10:29:23 +0200, a écrit : > > On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Here is a patch. I didn't know how I should detect the kind of > > > build, I just made it loo

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-08-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Here is a patch. I didn't know how I should detect the kind of build, > I just made it look at the udebs source. I don't think it's smart to use USE_UDEBS_FROM here. Better use a dedicated variable. Also, please use '[ ] && [ ]' instead of '

Re: Bug#488494: cdebconf: Make the dark theme even more readable

2008-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 18 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Thanks, however slang was written by american people, so the UK > orthography is not recognized, it has to be lightgray, see attached > patch. Fixed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: Bug#488494: cdebconf: Make the dark theme even more readable

2008-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Ok, so for coherency we should probably go with the black on gray. > Here is a patch that fixes the progression bar too. Committed in SVN. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PR

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Frans Pop wrote: > I'm sorry folks, I have a lot of respect for the extra effort needed > every day to deal with life if you have a disability (of whatever > form), but you cannot expect the world to always change things to fit > your needs. Note that

Re: New speakup-udeb component

2008-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Well, I don't think there is any architecture which shouldn't be > supported, except s390 on which speakup doesn't even compile. As for > the images, I guess we can for now include it on the same images as > brltty, that would make things coherent

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:32:00PM +0200, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > For example a beep is generated everytime gdm gets started during the > > bootup of a machine. I do not know anyone who would complain of that > > Very good point, so why isn'

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
(No need to CC me On Thursday 17 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I do agree it is annoying, but as Sebastien said, it's just about > installation. I've asked a few people, they said they wouldn't > complain if it could help others. It's annoying for me amongst others. I do huge numbers of in

Re: Make syslinux beep?

2008-07-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, le Thu 19 Jun 2008 11:08:32 +0100, a écrit : > > It is a bit hard for blind people to know exactly when they can type > > boot options for the installer. It would be helpful that syslinux > > beeps when it is ready to get input.

Re: Bug#488494: cdebconf: Make the dark theme even more readable

2008-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I had already actually. The problem is that the background color is OK :-) > technically limited to the dark palette, i.e. black, gray, and dark > colors. Setting the background of the selection to black is obviously > not correct unless we chan

Re: New speakup-udeb component

2008-07-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Attached are the patches against rootskel and finish-install which I > could test with success (provided the patch from bug #479227 is applied > to kernel-wedge and the speakup module be added to > linux-kernel-di-*-2.6) I've just committed these

Re: Debian installer and braille

2008-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 19 June 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Frans Pop, le Wed 07 May 2008 12:38:56 +0200, a écrit : > > On Sunday 04 May 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > About the dark theme, it would probably be useful to make the text > > > lightwhite (CGA

Re: New speakup-udeb component

2008-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > What is the status of the kernel support and the l-m-e packaging? > > Attached is the patch to l-m-e which I have used. OK. But my question actually was: when can we expect these packages to hit the archive? > > Should that not include the kern

Re: New speakup-udeb component

2008-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 28 May 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Possibly not, see attached files: speakup-udeb.startup gets run early, > sees the speakup statement on the kernel command line, and in that > case modprobes speakup and disables the framebuffer. In addition to > that, speakup-udeb.debinst selects

Re: New speakup-udeb component

2008-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 28 May 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I thought about putting the scripts (attached to this mail) in a > separate speakup-udeb package because it makes the integration to > the debian installer extremely simple: just add speakup-deb to > installer/build/pkg-list/something/somearchs.cfg

New speakup-udeb component

2008-05-28 Thread Frans Pop
(No need to CC me on replies. Thx.) Hi Mario, Samuel, others, The FTP-masters alerted us to the fact that you uploaded a new D-I component to the archive: speakup-udeb. We have an agreement with them that they check with us before approving packages with new udebs. It seems that this is only a

Re: Debian installer and braille

2008-05-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Frans Pop, le Sun 04 May 2008 18:37:41 +0200, a écrit : > > It would also be good if someone tested the alternative "themes" that > > were created. > > Are there several of them? The manual for 4.0 only talks about the

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > It is not part of the upstream kernel. OK. I misunderstood that. My apologies. Anyway, it still needs to be included in linux-2.6 and l-e-m before we can really discuss inclusion in the installer. Having it in l-m-e should not be a problem for u

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Frans Pop, le Tue 25 Mar 2008 19:29:56 +0100, a écrit : > > (Please don't CC me on list mail.) > > Then tell your mailer to use followup-to :) That's an unofficial (or at least fairly recent) header that unfortunately

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
(Please don't CC me on list mail.) On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > The idea is to compile the speakup module out-of-tree but still include > it in d-i. Why would you want to compile a module that is in-tree as an out-of-tree module? It just does not make any sense to me. Anyw

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Mario Lang wrote: > >> The module will first need to be included in the regular Debian kernel > >> image packages of course. > > > > Ah, can't it be a separate package? > > Isn't linux-modules-extra-2.6 where all the extra modules belong? > Seems logical to work speakup in

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-18 Thread Frans Pop
(No need to CC me, please just mail the debian-boot list.) On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > The module will first need to be included in the regular Debian kernel > > image packages of course. > > Ah, can't it be a separate package? > (speakup can now be compiled fully independ

Re: kernel 2.6.24 & speakup

2008-03-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I was wondering: since one of the goals of d-i for Lenny is to have a > 2.6.24 kernel, and that it happens that that kernel has enough hooks for > speakup to be compiled as a module, would it be ok to include speakup in > the standard images, as a

Re: Extending accessibility support in D-I for Lenny

2007-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 February 2007 23:53, Gilles Casse wrote: > Today, in principle using a Speakup enabled kernel + Speechd-Up + > SpeechDispatcher + eSpeak or in user space, Yasr + emacspeak server + > eSpeak, a text based dialog might be correctly spoken. However, we understand that the speakup patch

Re: Extending accessibility support in D-I for Lenny

2007-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 February 2007 22:41, Mario Lang wrote: > For speech and braille output, I ask myself why > a blind user would want to run the Graphical Installer instead > of the text interface. What features does the > graphical installer add (except eye-candy) that is > not provided by the text i

Re: Extending accessibility support in D-I for Lenny

2007-02-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 13:43, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote: > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > One good thing of this would be to have speech accessibility without > > the need for having a speakup-patched kernel (though that would be > > useful too). Yes, that is one of the main ideas. > I just ins

Extending accessibility support in D-I for Lenny

2007-02-13 Thread Frans Pop
During the World Free Software Conference 3.0 (that bubulle, tbm and I attended in Extremadura last week) I spoke with Willie Walker who works for Sun on Accessibility and Speech. Willie is the lead man behind ORCA [1], which works with GTK and could thus possibly be integrated in the graphical

Re: Accessibility theme for the graphical installer

2006-12-23 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Denis, On Saturday 09 September 2006 09:12, Denis Barbier wrote: > With help from Eddy Petrişor, I copied the > HighContrastLargePrintInverse theme (from gnome-accessibility-themes) > into rootskel-gtk, you can find this package under > people/barbier/rootskel-gtk in d-i subversion repository.

Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-11 Thread Frans Pop
me in particular to Bastian Blank for his work to switch S/390 to a 2.6 kernel. Installation CDs, other media, detailed errata and everything else you'll need are available from our web site: <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer> For the Debian Installer team, Frans Pop [1] ht

Re: Re: d-i: BRLTTY is not installed

2006-07-23 Thread Frans Pop
Hi, Came across this thread when accidentally browsing your list :-) > In this case, the bug was not what I thought, and got corrected in > debian installer itself. Note: you should still change from using prebaseconfig.d to finish-install.d in your package at some point as the backwards compa

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060429 meeting)

2006-05-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 13 May 2006 08:33, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Grmbl. Now that this available, I realize that brltty and gnopernicus > must go into testing _together_, and gnopernicus waits for gnutls13 > (which has a RC bug) and avahi, which depends on qt4-x11, which depends > on x11proto-core, i.e. Xorg

Re: Help needed: People willing to help co-maintain debian accessibility packages

2005-07-25 Thread Frans Pop
y installation. Adding CD installation to that would be very nice. Cheers, Frans Pop [1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/index#speakup pgp9j8LbdIJxp.pgp Description: PGP signature