Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Chevelle
    Thanks Samuel.  The ORCA Debian package only has xbrlapi as Reccomends.  There doesn't seem to be any warning by ORCA so if xbrlapi isn't installed the unsuspecting user has a Braille display that doesn't work properly.  Should xbrlapi be a depends instead? On 9/4/23 18:08, Samuel Thibaul

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:59:05 +0200, a ecrit: > I'm on it. So, as usual it's the combination of two issues that were producing the odd behavior. What was happening is that with xbrlapi installed but brltty-x11 not installed, the xbrlapi startup script would try to run brltty wit

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:52:11 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:42 +0200): > > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), > > > > That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versi

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:42 +0200): > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), > > That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versions. In > versions before 6.6-1, the xbrlapi package was trying to start brlt

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versions. In versions before 6.6-1, the xbrlapi package was trying to start brltty with a ba driver and an a2 driver, only to fail l

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:12 +0200): > I don't mean it's not implemented. I mean in the tests one can make, > Orca doesn't happen to be doing anything with them. For *whatever* > reason that might lie between the actual braille device and Orca. Yes yes, I'm following you now. > > Unless the

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:02:48 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:28 +0200): > > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orc

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:28 +0200): > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:39:07 +0200, a ecrit: > Ok but at this point which is the exactly the main function of brltty-x11? Providing a brltty-like experience wherever it can on the graphical desktop. Yes that's not very precise, because the details are dense. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
Ok but at this point which is the exactly the main function of brltty-x11? Roberto Burceni Linux System Admin & PHP developer Esperto accessibilità siti web E-mail: robe...@robertoburceni.it Phone: +393358208080 P.iva: 04025840986 Il 04/09/23 21:28, Samuel Thibault ha scritto: Sébastien H

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields > > Well I am unsure about what you mean by text

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > Ok, I see. > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields Well I am unsure about what you mean by text field here because, for the little of GUI I am using (Firefo

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:12:44 +0200, a ecrit: > When I am in a browser and navitate with pan key, when I encounter an > unordered or ordered list, the braille display stay on the first item and do > not go on te following. > > To go to the next item I have to press down arrow key

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
Ok I ask another thing about braille navigation that is strange but I did not find any solution: When I am in a browser and navitate with pan key, when I encounter an unordered or ordered list, the braille display stay on the first item and do not go on te following. To go to the next item I

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ok, I see. So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields because it knows it brings better support in that case (the cursor routing you get is achieved by the brltty core itself, not the a2 driver which is only th