Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi, Le 10/11/2019 à 09:46, Devin Prater a écrit : Thank you for your fair, calm message. Yes, Linux accessibility is at a crisis point, but we do have four years to change this, even make things better than they have ever been. Now, that doesn’t mean we should just Exactly. wait until thr

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Devin Prater
This is very good. A roadmap will keep them accountable. Thank you so much for your work. > On Nov 10, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > wrote: > > > Le 10/11/2019 à 15:23, Devin Prater a écrit : >> Yes, this is true. I forget that she is the only active developer of Orca, >> sorry.

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Le 10/11/2019 à 15:23, Devin Prater a écrit : Yes, this is true. I forget that she is the only active developer of Orca, sorry. I simply want the developer of Orca to be talking with the people that point fingers at Orca as the problem because Obviously, screen readers are magic and can do th

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Devin Prater
Yes, this is true. I forget that she is the only active developer of Orca, sorry. I simply want the developer of Orca to be talking with the people that point fingers at Orca as the problem because Obviously, screen readers are magic and can do things for blind people that transcend the GUI or

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 10 nov. 2019 12:33:17 +0100, a ecrit: > Devin Prater, le dim. 10 nov. 2019 02:46:51 -0600, a ecrit: > > if GTK4 folks say it’s Orca’s fault, put an issue on Orca, and > > loop them all in, grab some popcorn, and watch them point fingers. > > I don't think we want to make J

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alex ARNAUD, le ven. 08 nov. 2019 09:29:21 +0100, a ecrit: > To be fully clear: There is no risk to see something changes on your > experience > until approximately 4 years. Possibly a bit longer. It took a lot of time for applications to migrate from gtk2 to gtk3. Migrating to gtk4 will

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Devin Prater, le dim. 10 nov. 2019 02:46:51 -0600, a ecrit: > if GTK4 folks say it’s Orca’s fault, put an issue on Orca, and > loop them all in, grab some popcorn, and watch them point fingers. I don't think we want to make Joanmarie handle that. Samuel

Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

2019-11-10 Thread Devin Prater
Thank you for your fair, calm message. Yes, Linux accessibility is at a crisis point, but we do have four years to change this, even make things better than they have ever been. Now, that doesn’t mean we should just wait until three years have passed, then jump to action, but we don’t have to wo