Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joanmarie Diggs, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 10:11:58 -0400, a écrit : > On 04/21/2015 09:50 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Joanmarie Diggs, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 09:17:30 -0400, a écrit : > >>> I don't know why they dropped it from the preference dialog, it's > >>> probably worth raising the need to the Orca

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2015-04-21 at 09:17, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > It was dropped deliberately because the Orca preferences dialog is for > options for users; not debugging tools for sighted developers. :) I would suggest to at least mention it in orca --help, for the reasons explained by Jean-Philippe. Thanks,

Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello Samuel. On 2015-04-21 at 10:32, Samuel Thibault wrote: > - or use the xw driver of brltty, but that'll require another X display. This sounds very handy. I can use another "remote" X display, for example on my host machine when I develop on a virtual machine. Thanks a lot for the informa

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 04/21/2015 09:50 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Joanmarie Diggs, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 09:17:30 -0400, a écrit : >>> I don't know why they dropped it from the preference dialog, it's >>> probably worth raising the need to the Orca team. >> >> It was dropped deliberately because the Orca preferences d

Re : Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
> > It was dropped deliberately because the Orca preferences dialog is for > options for users; not debugging tools for sighted developers. :) It is a pitty I think. Because this feature is really convinient when we do some shows (demo) during meetings. And it can be useful for people who want t

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joanmarie Diggs, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 09:17:30 -0400, a écrit : > > I don't know why they dropped it from the preference dialog, it's > > probably worth raising the need to the Orca team. > > It was dropped deliberately because the Orca preferences dialog is for > options for users; not debugging to

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 04/21/2015 08:17 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 14:14:06 +0200, a écrit : >>> You can either >>> >>> - enable the braille monitor in Orca >> >> How do you do that? this feature seems not exist anymore in my preferences >> dialog > > The option is still

Re: Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 14:14:06 +0200, a écrit : > > You can either > > > > - enable the braille monitor in Orca > > How do you do that? this feature seems not exist anymore in my preferences > dialog The option is still there in .local/share/orca/user-settings.conf, enableB

Re : Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
> > You can either > > - enable the braille monitor in Orca How do you do that? this feature seems not exist anymore in my preferences dialog Regards > - or use the xw driver of brltty, but that'll require another X display. > - for debian installer debugging, I run the tested environment

Re: Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luca Saiu, le Tue 21 Apr 2015 10:17:46 +0200, a écrit : > I suspect a workaround would consist in killing some brltty process > right before the lightdm greeter dies, so that the process presence > doesn't lock the device. Err, that's not how things work: there's just one brltty daemon, which is n

Virtual Braille terminal? Brltty and lightdm

2015-04-21 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. I packaged a recent version of lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter from upstream, with a few (ugly) screen reading fixes. I don't have a Braille terminal available to test, but a person using one reported problems with respect to the accessibility of the lightdm session versus the user session