Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. On 2015-04-13 at 21:21, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > I initially thought you could probably hook into the function where > text is rendered[1], but I don't know if that's exactly what you want. I've looked there, but I don't think that's the right place either. We have to notify the accessibil

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello Samuel. On 2015-04-13 at 15:44, Samuel Thibault wrote: > The screen-reader side of the discussion would then > probably be the orca devel mailing list. Thanks. I'll write to the Orca list. -- Luca Saiu Hypra team (Accessible website in construction) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. On 2015-04-13 at 09:25, Stephen M. Webb wrote: > The > preferred option would be to provide a > separate plugin that performs the TTS as appropriate, and that plugin can pull > in whatever evil necessities it wants. Yes, this is very reasonable. Speaking of that, is there an example in C

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. On 2015-04-13 at 16:14, MC Return wrote: > Have you tried to activate this option to see > if it fixes your problem ? I've tried it on the Application Switcher plugin; as far as I can see the option is not available on the other switchers. Anyway unfortunately no, vocalization doesn'

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Mon 13 Apr 2015 15:42:45 +0200, a écrit : > Luca Saiu, le Mon 13 Apr 2015 15:05:17 +0200, a écrit : > > In this situation, what's the cleanest way of making the selected window > > title accessible? Is there an easy way of using ATK without making a > > GTK label just for the p

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luca Saiu, le Mon 13 Apr 2015 15:05:17 +0200, a écrit : > In this situation, what's the cleanest way of making the selected window > title accessible? Is there an easy way of using ATK without making a > GTK label just for the purpose, or should I try some other route? Mmm, I would have assumed t

Re: [compiz] Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Hey Luca On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Luca Saiu wrote: > On 2015-04-13 at 15:05, Luca Saiu wrote: > >> I was initially surprised after discovering that the window title is not >> drawn with GTK > > Just to make this clear, the window title is vocalized *after* switching > window, but that's t

Re: Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2015-04-13 at 15:05, Luca Saiu wrote: > I was initially surprised after discovering that the window title is not > drawn with GTK Just to make this clear, the window title is vocalized *after* switching window, but that's too late. A blind user will want to cycle among the open windows one by

Accessibility of Cairo/OpenGL text: ATK without GTK?

2015-04-13 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. While playing with Compiz window switchers (there are several) I noticed that the selected window name is displayed but not vocalized by the screen reader. I was initially surprised after discovering that the window title is not drawn with GTK; but I understand that Compiz itself does not