Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Anthony F McInerney
How do you measure memory? Free? Could you quite possibly post the output of free and whatever else you measure with? (the full output) For reference against jessie, i'm installing an up to date jessie right now... Thanks Anthony (bofh80)

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:34:04PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > You mean left vs. right side? Or even showing them at all (certainly last time I bothered to look at gnome 3 it seemed to think buttons on windows were mostly to be avoided). > People who are so afraid of new stuff to learn that

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 03:20 +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote: [...] > If people have old CD only machines i would not like to attempt to get > kernel 3.16 +drivers +userland working on that. I've been in that > situation plenty of times, where woody or potato are better simply > because the drivers

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Joel Rees
2014/08/12 1:12 "Jonas Smedegaard" : > > [...] > Still you are talking about cost in time. Few I have met in developing > countries were poor measured in time available. > [...] Developed country (Japan). My wife makes me scrimp on everything, so I still have megabit/sec download. Fiber or 10 Mb/

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-11 11:21:14) > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet >> access. Larger default desktop will hurt the most in developing >> countries: non-techies gets discourages to u

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Lennart Sorensen: > it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect > to see them You mean left vs. right side? > Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than > upstream in the interest of actually being useable to new users who are > used to o

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's look > at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here): > http://www.presseportal.de/pm/112096/2653870/aldi-senkt-preise-fuer-fischprodukte-oel-und-smoothi

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 8/11/14, Thomas Weber wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote: >> Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr, >> especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price >> checkers etc) of the price of

Processed: severity of 757152 is wishlist

2014-08-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > severity 757152 wishlist Bug #757152 [python-pyatspi] python-pyatspi: Should depond on at-spi2-core OR qt-at-spi Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 757152: ht

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Mon, 11 Aug, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Thomas Weber wrote: Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's look at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here): http://www.presseportal.de/pm/112096/2653870/aldi-senkt-preise-fuer-fischprodukte-oel-und-smoothies CD

Bug#757152: python-pyatspi: Should depond on at-spi2-core OR qt-at-spi

2014-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Gonzalo Bermúdez, le Mon 11 Aug 2014 00:30:03 -0300, a écrit : > There's already a package named kdeaccessibility, This package has very little to do with at-spi2 actually. kdeaccessibility simply depends on the kde-ish accessibility tools (magnifier, text to speech, etc.), while python-py

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Thomas Weber
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote: > Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr, > especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price > checkers etc) of the price of say 5 pack or 10 pack, even up to 50pack of > CD's,