New buildd and some obversations

2008-02-09 Thread Michael Casadevall
jabber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/Home) if you want to reach me. I'm also available by email. Michael Casadevall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New buildd and some obversations

2008-02-10 Thread Michael Casadevall
#debian-68k under the username NCommander if you wish to talk w/ me. Michael On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:00 +0100, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 10:12:35AM -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > > The machine has a dynamic IP address, I have a > > dyndns pointed at t

Re: New buildd and some obversations

2008-02-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
I probably wont be able to set up any more buildds until I get aranym working headless. It will be a grand total of four or five (depends if I can get the VIAO to run cgywin and aranym; it cant run linux; panics at startup). The next machine I can probably bring up is order/chaos; although it needs

Introductions, thoughts and observations ...

2008-02-24 Thread Michael Casadevall
Hey Stephen, this is a draft of what I've been composing to send to d-m68k. Its not done yet, but I'd like to get your opinions on it; I need to lie down so I'll finish it tommorow. Thoughts, comments, etc. welcome :-). Michael Hello all, I'm new to this list, but I've recently started working on

Re: Introductions, thoughts and observations ...

2008-02-24 Thread Michael Casadevall
Err, oops. I forgot to remove the header of this message; I sent a draft to stephen earlier :-/. Michael On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 17:05 -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > Hey Stephen, this is a draft of what I've been composing to send to > d-m68k. Its not done yet, but I'd like to g

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Casadevall
I'm suprised that network I/O was that slow; using distcc (especially with -j2 options passed to dpkg-buildpackage) have drastically sped up builds; the files themselves are small, usually a few kilobytes round trip. Then again, the files are going through tap0 on my machines so YMMV. Michael On

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Casadevall
ny existing ports. > > The fact that Freescale and CodeSourcery have essentially given those > hypothetical CF-only port users the ABI, and the kernel, C library and > toolchain ports means that the best way to meet the needs of those > hypothetical users will be a CF-only port

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-26 Thread Michael Casadevall
QEMU can emulate a coldfire processor. I'm looking into the feasibility of using qemu to kickstart the coldfire port. Michael On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 07:51 +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Hi, > > late to the party again - my old e-mail system broke down once more... > > > > > After going to a conf

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-27 Thread Michael Casadevall
st wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 08:41:32AM -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > > QEMU can emulate a coldfire processor. I'm looking into the feasibility > > > of using qemu to kickstart the coldfire port. > > > Michael > > > > Yes, but

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-29 Thread Michael Casadevall
I personally agree that combining the ports together is a bad idea; no arguement towards the other has managed to sway me; FreeMiNT OS required an emualator layer running under its kernel and still required patching to be usable on Coldfire. I also disagree that coldfire as a seperate port would

GCC -pie patch (kinda) ....

2008-03-01 Thread Michael Casadevall
As some of you are aware, I've recently voluteered (or been voluteered depending on how you look at it) to work on correcting some of the more outstanding bugs with binutils, and gcc. I've been working on debugging the -pie issue with GCC which creates the following compiler errors bc_nonshare

debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-01 Thread Michael Casadevall
Well, it's been discussed time and again. It's overdue; its time we bootstrap the coldfire port. Roman convienced me in his email that having coldfire as a seperate binary distrubution is without a shadow of a doubt the only SANE way we can support both coldfire and classic m68k. I'm willing to

Re: GCC -pie patch (kinda) ....

2008-03-02 Thread Michael Casadevall
27;ll submit it against the binutils package. Michael On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Michael Schmitz wrote: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:00:39 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Joseph S. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Michael Casadevall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-68k@lists

Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
I do realize I'm the new guy here, but I do have an outside perspective, and I do hope I'm not getting out of line here. On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Finn Thain wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Wouter Verhelst wrote: The problem is that adding another port isn't going to be accepted by FTP masters: I don't

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
I agree with Roman. Even if it was possible to get a hybrid port to work, we're looking at so much kludge code to make it fly that the speed penality to classic m68k would effectively kill the port. If we try and focus on classic m68k (that is getting m68k ASM working on coldfire), we'll be hur

Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
4 Mar 2008 12:29:02 -0800 From: Brad Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Michael Casadevall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-68k@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire On Tue, Mar 04, 2008

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-03-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
Maybe this is a stupid question (and maybe unrelated), but how does Debian/ARM handle FPU issues. I know XScale requires softfloat, but I don't think the Debian ARM port was compiled with softfloat. It almost looks like supporting Coldfire will be a plain pain because of the different varients

Re: [m68k-build] away from my buildd

2008-03-05 Thread Michael Casadevall
Great ... this is becoming dead buildd week (we're now four buildds alone this week, cronos, hades, and diablos bit the dust this week due to ISP failure (a work around is going in place). Can't hobbes pass its email via uucp or something though so even if it lacks direct net access, it can still b

Planning for the future (was: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire)

2008-03-05 Thread Michael Casadevall
hat's all my brain can muster at 7:22am. Michael On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:03:56 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-68k@lists.debian.org, Wouter Verhelst <[EMA

Re: Uses for m68k Was: Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-05 Thread Michael Casadevall
+ (UTC) Resent-From: debian-68k@lists.debian.org Brad Boyer wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:17:54PM -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: I suspose the question needs to be asked; what are people doing with their old m68ks. Most people around here are using them for (obviously enough)

[m68k-buildd] cronos and diablos somewhat up

2008-03-05 Thread Michael Casadevall
Both cronos and diablos have been offline due to ISP issues. I've installed a local source and binary mirror and now somewhat able to build packages. Full internet restoration should happen sometime this week, or so I am told. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-06 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:55:51AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Should support, but won't do so. In fact IT world became rather monocultural when it comes down to architectures. MIPS is dead (except fo

Re: Planning for the future (was: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire)

2008-03-09 Thread Michael Casadevall
d an etch install available over NFS. On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Brian Morris wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0800 From: Brian Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Michael Casadevall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: m68k w-b access request

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Casadevall
I have keys for my buildds that also need to be added. (and yes, I'm back from the dead :-P) Michael. On 6/23/08, Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:58:29AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > Here is a full list of current m68k buildds. > > > > I'd be hap

Potential fix for gcc-4.3 and m68k glibc

2008-06-26 Thread Michael Casadevall
Reading up on the changes made to GCC for gnu99/c99, I've been researching workarounds and such, and I may have hit paydirt;GCC has an option which causes the code to use the gnu89 linkage over the current gnu99 while still allowing the code extensions of gnu99. In other words, it will allow c99/g

Re: Potential fix for gcc-4.3 and m68k glibc

2008-06-28 Thread Michael Casadevall
PROTECTED] That's siren's new key. I'll manually add the one for my other workstation after I get setup. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 09:16:42PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > Reading up

patch to allow gnu99 mode on m68k

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
Package: gcc-4.3 Version: 4.3.1-2 Severity: important Tags: patch On m68k, gnu99 mode doesn't work correctly out of the box due to our woefully outdated glibc (we're currently stuck at 2.5-1). This is because the inline schematics changed between glibc 2.5 and 2.7, and gcc 4.2 to 4.3. This patch

Bug#489234: *sigh*

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-68k@lists.debian.org I should not send patches when I'm half alseep. Here's one that's actually appliable ;-) --- gcc-4.3.1/gcc/config/m68k/linux-old.h2008-07-04 04:02:21.0 -0400 +++ gcc-4.3.1/gcc/config/m68k/linux.h2008-07-04 05:23:21.0 -0400 @@ -37,6

diablos, diablos2, and diablos3 online

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
I've got three aranym instances now functional on siren. Running distcc (I find ccache slows things down more on m68k then speeds up, but YMMV), the 4.3 compiler patch, and nfblock (running nice and stable once I killed udev). Aranym reports it as a 195Mhz 68040, and its seriously flying on how fas

Re: m68k developer meeting in Kiel

2008-07-05 Thread Michael Casadevall
I would like to go, but I don't have the ability to get to Germany :-/. My new laptop depleted my travel coffers (but did net us a updated GCC, and quite possibly a working Perl ;-)). Michael On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008

Notes from the buildd front

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Casadevall
I currently have diablos running (its building perl on aranym to see if the math issues can be resolved by using x86 or uae math backends vs the default one), and chaos is now online, but I've configured it to build etch r4 off a local w-b database vs unstable. diablos2 and 3 should be up this week

The perl 5.10.0 headache

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Casadevall
After talking it over with stephen and arranging perl 5.10 to be built on real metal vs aranym, we are pleased to report that perl passes its test suite with the exception of one test, a threading stress test which launchs multiple threads, and then tries to make sure that they close in order. Thi

Re: The perl 5.10.0 headache

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Casadevall
I haven't had an opportunity to run the test yet (my laptop currently grinding away building the new release of GCC for m68k) but threads on Linux when using linuxthreads to my knowledge are almost completely in userland; linuxthreads uses clone() to create them. If it requires real-time signals on

Re: Updating Sarge

2008-07-25 Thread Michael Casadevall
Sarge has been retired as a distribution. If you want something supported, you need to go to etch. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM, stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 13 July 2008 18:06:13 Laurent Vivier wrote: > > > > At the start of the year/late last year I installed Sarge 3.1r3 on

Lenny release plans

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I figure since lenny is now frozen, its time to talk about our plans for a lenny-m68k release. Talking with Stephen, the current plan of attack is something as follows: 1. Install dak on a machine on nemesisnetworks (sorta done, still needs some confi

Re: Bootable Debian install CD-ROM for Mac 68k

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
Woo hoo! > >> but it cannot boot from non-apple drive. > > Still great progress! > >> it is here : >> >> http://vivierlaurent.free.fr/debian-50-m68k-NETINST-1_emile-1.iso >> >> The disk content is from: >> >> http://people.debian.org/~sm

Re: Lenny release plans

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
0, Michael Schmitz wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 05:17:14PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> I figure since lenny is now frozen, its time to talk abo

Re: Bootable Debian install CD-ROM for Mac 68k

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 09:24:38PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: >> Stephen, since we still have to roll a new d-i for lenny-m68k, can you >> include both this and the updated mirrors list (d-ports mirrors, and >> nemesisnetworks)

Re: Lenny release plans

2008-08-12 Thread Michael Casadevall
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Re: Lenny release plans

2008-08-12 Thread Michael Casadevall
ter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 09:42:01PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: >> By the unstable snapshot, I meant a snapshot of unstable from the day >> lenny was frozen. As of now, I have the packages list setup imported, >> but I'm ha

Lenny-m68k can now be debootstrapped!

2008-08-13 Thread Michael Casadevall
debootstrapping off http://ftp-master.nemesisnetworks.com/debian for lenny now works. Stephen uploaded e2fsprogs which was the last missing deb we needed for debootstrap to work. It is now possible to to build a lenny "pure" chroot jail. If your interested in running a lenny autobuilder, now is th

Re: 2008 M68k Porter Meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Michael Casadevall
I'll be watching live, but I've never done video conferencing (hell, I'm not sure my webcam is going to work). How will those unable to attend in person be able to communicate Michael On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Kurt Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can the videos be published somewhere? >

Unstable synced to debian port

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 aurel32 has finished syncing our unstable to Debian ports. If you run a buildd, please point it to upload there, as well as use debian-ports.org as your buildd server. Stephen: Please add the buildd keys to the buildd_m68k account. Michael -BEGIN

Coldfire Boards

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm just curious on who got what. I know Stephen gave me his board, but I'm curious to know which boards went where. Anyway, here are a couple of my bootstrapping notes. 1. Coldfire m68k IGNORES command line args, they're hardcoded. If you want to ch

Re: Coldfire Boards

2008-09-01 Thread Michael Casadevall
M547x/M548x boards. Could you be more specific? > > You are using an old BSP. The new BSP I released for these boards uses > uBoot, not dBug. As for your notes on the old bsp, I don't think those > are applicable. > > --Kurt > > Roman Zippel wrote: >> Hi, >>

Re: Coldfire Boards

2008-09-01 Thread Michael Casadevall
) that we have posted onto the website? This has uboot and the > 2.6.25 kernel in it. > > How old are your boards? What exactly do you have? (models) > > --Kurt > > Michael Casadevall wrote: > > Your right, we do have M547x/M548xs, but I don't have a BDM module

Re: Coldfire Boards

2008-09-01 Thread Michael Casadevall
This confirms some of us have different baseboards, since I have an EVB baseboard. Michael On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 00:30 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Kurt Mahan wrote: > > > It appears you are using M547x/M548x boards. Could you be more specific? > > That's the versio

Re: [buildd] releasing lenny

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
=ld9h -END PGP SIGNATURE- On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Michael Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > >> Michael Casadevall believes we can stage lenny on dports. However, he'll >> need upload rights

Re: [buildd] releasing lenny

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, no binaries from lenny will be going back into unstable to make sure. If it becomes an issue, it isn't very difficult to resign the changes files after the fact. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > So you may have noticed the following in your buildd logs for python- > depending packages. > > | dpkg: regarding .../python-docutils_0.5-3_all.deb containing > python-docutils: > |  package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg > | dp

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-12 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Hi All, > >> > Option 2: lenny-lite >> >        Build lenny with base, build-essential, and buildd-required >> >        packages. I can probably do this one myself if there's >> >        interest. I'll probably include anything required for