Re: mac kernel issues (was Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs)

2011-10-23 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 08:21:27PM +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, I wrote: > > The top of the list of my priorities are the devices marked borken on > > the machine status page. That's basically v1 PMU and Egret ADB (broken > > since 2.2 and flaky even back then) and, as dicussed

Re: mac kernel issues (was Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs)

2011-10-23 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, I wrote: > > The top of the list of my priorities are the devices marked borken on > the machine status page. That's basically v1 PMU and Egret ADB (broken > since 2.2 and flaky even back then) and, as dicussed, NCR5380 SCSI. I found the problem with mac_scsi on machines

mac kernel issues (was Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs)

2011-09-10 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Brad Boyer wrote: > Anything that predates the NuBus 90 standard is definitely 10MHz only. I > haven't looked at any newer documentation, but YANCC was Apple's first > NuBus 90 compatible bridge chip and it first shipped in the Q700 and > Q900. Even in that case the process

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 07:47, Brad Boyer wrote: > Wasn't there some noise about the NCR5380 core being removed entirely > due to using some ancient interface that people wanted eliminated? I > know that it's pretty old code. That was the old NCR539x core, which was replaced by the esp_scsi core.

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-09 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:56:20PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Brad Boyer wrote: > > I still haven't found the time to get it working in Linux, but I did > > find and buy a 100BaseT NuBus card. It even has a chip on it that > > appears to be the same one as in some cards that a

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-09 Thread Finn Thain
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Brad Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:58:56PM +0200, Ingo J?rgensmann wrote: > > > > But yes, on Macs SCSI was always slow, afair... ;-) > > I still haven't found the time to get it working in Linux, but I did > find and buy a 100BaseT NuBus card. It even has a ch

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-09 Thread Brad Boyer
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:58:56PM +0200, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote: > On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:51:10 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >I doubt m68k machines will slow down because of NBD. The very > >first NBD > >installation that I did was on quickstep, back when its SCSI > >driver was > >still rathe

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs

2011-09-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jakob Eriksson dixit: >ATA over Ethernet, AoE, works fine for me, even as a root Never heard of it… will look up what it is. Wouter Verhelst dixit: >On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:10:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> Wouter, how does nbd perform? > >Fairly okay. […] >In my opinion, it's defin

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:51:10 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I doubt m68k machines will slow down because of NBD. The very first NBD installation that I did was on quickstep, back when its SCSI driver was still rather crap. It was faster over NBD than it was to local disk. Running Debian/m68k was

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 13:40, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> If there's anything broken on my Amiga, it's the floppy drive... >> It's one of the mechanical things that's difficult to replace, as HD Amiga >> floppy drives are sp

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Thorsten, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:10:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Dixi quod… > > >I’d really appreciate if someone (with either cowbuilder or > >sbuild, preferably buildd/wanna-build) could upload X-rela‐ > > Wouter, how does nbd perform? Fairly okay. There's some performance iss

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > If there's anything broken on my Amiga, it's the floppy drive... > It's one of the mechanical things that's difficult to replace, as HD Amiga > floppy drives are special. http://jschoenfeld.com/products/catweasel_e.htm A gre

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Thorsten, 2011/9/6 Thorsten Glaser : > Wouter, how does nbd perform? Do you think a root-on-nbd sy‐ > stem could help with the issue of dead old hard discs on the > older buildds? (I know some OpenBSD developers use NFS, but, > it’s known as Nightmare File System not without reason, so I > t

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 09:11, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:10:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> Wouter, how does nbd perform? Do you think a root-on-nbd sy‐ >> stem could help with the issue of dead old hard discs on the >> older buildds? (I know some OpenBSD developers u

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-07 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:10:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Wouter, how does nbd perform? Do you think a root-on-nbd sy‐ > stem could help with the issue of dead old hard discs on the > older buildds? (I know some OpenBSD developers use NFS, but, ATA over Ethernet, AoE, works fine for me

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-06 Thread Finn Thain
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Wouter, how does nbd perform? Do you think a root-on-nbd sy- stem could > help with the issue of dead old hard discs on the older buildds? I've successfully used NFS root and ATAoE root with Debian/68k. (The kernel has to be patched to use ATAoE roo

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-06 Thread Britt Dodd
If anybody needs 68-pin SCSI hard drives let me know id ship them out for shipping costs. I bought them to use with my Video Toaster, but I cant find a video card that will work on my A4000 that is inexpensive enough for me to afford. Somehow I also lost my keyboard too. On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:1

nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod… >I’d really appreciate if someone (with either cowbuilder or >sbuild, preferably buildd/wanna-build) could upload X-rela‐ Wouter, how does nbd perform? Do you think a root-on-nbd sy‐ stem could help with the issue of dead old hard discs on the older buildds? (I know some OpenBSD develo