Re: profiling 68k code with an emulator (was: meeting planning)

2015-01-15 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > And the reason why this could be relevant for debian-68k > is the Hatari profiler used to find out & optimize all > the bottlenecks in that game: > http://hg.tuxfamily.org/mercurialroot/hatari/hatari/raw- > file/tip/doc/manual.html#Profiling >

Centris 650 PRAM, was Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Finn Thain
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I'll just bring my SCSI->IDE bridge that I have in my Centris 650 which > is currently off anyway (it won't boot due to some problems with the > PRAM after replacing the battery). You can reset PRAM manually (restart and hold down Command

Re: profiling 68k code with an emulator (was: meeting planning)

2015-01-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, And the reason why this could be relevant for debian-68k is the Hatari profiler used to find out & optimize all the bottlenecks in that game: http://hg.tuxfamily.org/mercurialroot/hatari/hatari/raw- file/tip/doc/manual.html#Profiling That profiler might also be useful in profiling some 68k Li

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, On sunnuntai 11 tammikuu 2015, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > If there are Atari experts around, I would also bring my Falcon/CT60. It > currently boots from a CF card (testing Michaels kernels), but I would > like to get it running from its harddisk again (repartitioning destroyed > the worki

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 13.01.2015 um 22:47 schrieb Thorsten Glaser: Stefan Niestegge dixit: I'll bring an extra TFT screen for your Falcon, VGA/DVI input. We’ve got lots of those at work… Its tested to work great with the Falcon. … well, just not that of course ☺ bye, //mirabilos I'll leave my extra screen

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit: >I don't know a single PC BIOS implementation that supports anything >but four primary partitions No PC BIOS knows a̲n̲y̲t̲h̲i̲n̲g̲ about partitions. The whole logic to select the boot partition lies within the 446, usually only 440, bytes of usable machine code s

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/15/2015 07:41 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> Not quite. You won't be able to boot from anything of that unless your >> firmware supports that. > > Only somewhat right. You have to honour the boot protocol supported > by the firmware, but that is not often coupled to the partitioning > scheme.

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit: >> The partitioning scheme is independent of the firmware in use. > >Not quite. You won't be able to boot from anything of that unless your >firmware supports that. Only somewhat right. You have to honour the boot protocol supported by the firmware, but that is no

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit: > >> If you want more than 4 partitions, you need to use extended >> partitions or use a machine that has UEFI. > > Wrong. You can… > > • use MBR extended partitions > • use Linux LVM, or similar tools

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit: >If you want more than 4 partitions, you need to use extended >partitions or use a machine that has UEFI. Wrong. You can… • use MBR extended partitions • use Linux LVM, or similar tools • use a GPT, BSD, etc. partition table scheme The partitioning scheme is ind

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit: >I know, I bought a couple of those, crest and kullervo each have one. >But when you partition the disk as SCSI disk, you can create partitions 1, >2, 3, 4, 5, whatever you choose. If you partition as IDE, don't have to >create primary and secondary partitions if you w

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:21:12PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 01/15/2015 06:11 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> > I don't think that an IDE disk that is set up as an SCSI disk will work >> > when >> > it is used

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: > >>I'll come on Saturday, if that's OK for you? > > Sure. At least one person wants to come on Friday, so Friday evening > (from 16:00 CET onwards) is all “yours”, until Sunday evening. Just in case it wasn't cle

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/15/2015 06:47 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > I know, I bought a couple of those, crest and kullervo each have one. > But when you partition the disk as SCSI disk, you can create partitions 1, > 2, 3, 4, 5, whatever you choose. If you partition as IDE, don't have to > create primary and se

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:21:12PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 01/15/2015 06:11 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > I don't think that an IDE disk that is set up as an SCSI disk will work when > > it is used as a pure IDE disk again. crest does have a SCSI disk, but last I > > tri

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/15/2015 06:28 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Christian T. Steigies dixit: > >> I don't think that an IDE disk that is set up as an SCSI disk will work when >> it is used as a pure IDE disk again. crest does have a SCSI disk, but last I >> tried Linux would not boot from it (missing kernel driv

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit: >I don't think that an IDE disk that is set up as an SCSI disk will work when >it is used as a pure IDE disk again. crest does have a SCSI disk, but last I >tried Linux would not boot from it (missing kernel driver, I think). Thats >why I put in a loaned IDE disk. Sho

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/15/2015 06:11 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > I don't think that an IDE disk that is set up as an SCSI disk will work when > it is used as a pure IDE disk again. crest does have a SCSI disk, but last I > tried Linux would not boot from it (missing kernel driver, I think). Thats > why I put

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: >I'll come on Saturday, if that's OK for you? Sure. At least one person wants to come on Friday, so Friday evening (from 16:00 CET onwards) is all “yours”, until Sunday evening. bye, //mirabilos -- exceptions: a truly awful implementation of quite a nice idea. just a

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 04:07:33PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 01/13/2015 12:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 01/13/2015 12:12 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > >>> Sure. Should I bring a SCSI drive or an IDE drive? > >> > >> I think kullervo has a SCSI disk, but I w

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/13/2015 12:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 01/13/2015 12:12 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >>> Sure. Should I bring a SCSI drive or an IDE drive? >> >> I think kullervo has a SCSI disk, but I will check. Maybe you can bring >> both. > > Will do. I'll just create it from an old

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/15/2015 01:15 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > I'll come on Saturday, if that's OK for you? > > BTW, will there be a BigRamPlus? I'll bring mine :). -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-be

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Thorsten, On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I hope more people will come than have voted in the Doodle ;-) > /me thinks of Geert, Andreas, Michael, Christian, … I'll come on Saturday, if that's OK for you? BTW, will there be a BigRamPlus? Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Stefan Niestegge dixit: > I'll bring an extra TFT screen for your Falcon, VGA/DVI input. We’ve got lots of those at work… > Its tested to work great with the Falcon. … well, just not that of course ☺ bye, //mirabilos -- exceptions: a truly awful implementation of quite a nice idea. just abo

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-13 Thread ragnar
Hey list, Am 13.01.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Stefan Niestegge: > I can also bring some stuff to setup a new system. I'd like to attend but i have to work this weekend. Ff beetle is passing by on friday, i can lend him my ct63 falcon (without ctpci, it's broken) and a few VGA monitors if someone needs.

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 12.01.2015 um 13:38 schrieb Christian T. Steigies: We???ve got lots of TFTs, but no ???simple VGA monitor???s. They all have VGA and usually DVI, rarely HDMI, ports. I???ve got no idea if they VGA input will be sufficient. kullervo and the falcon both work on my old Samsung TFT as well as on

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/13/2015 12:12 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> Sure. Should I bring a SCSI drive or an IDE drive? > > I think kullervo has a SCSI disk, but I will check. Maybe you can bring > both. Will do. I'll just create it from an older backup of elgar. > Maybe I need to bring it along as well, but

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 01:43:17PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > I will bring my PLCC chip puller and all screw drivers and extra tools > that would be needed. Since Michael Karcher will be around as well, > there will be at least two electronic experts on site :). Ok, cool. > > I

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-12 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit: >> OK. Old news: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2014/11/msg8.html >And address would be sufficient for my GPS, but I guess I can find that. From http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user.events-eu/6171 | Wie kommt ihr dahin? | • Selbst irgendwie: nav

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 04:36:20PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > tl;dr: infos re. Friday and network below. Should I bring BNC equipment? > > > Christian T. Steigies dixit: > > >Clue me in on the details: where exactly is the meeting and what is the > >agenda? > > OK. Old news: https://lists.

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread Thorsten Glaser
tl;dr: infos re. Friday and network below. Should I bring BNC equipment? Christian T. Steigies dixit: >Clue me in on the details: where exactly is the meeting and what is the >agenda? OK. Old news: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2014/11/msg8.html This includes a GPX file so your naviga

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
On 2015-01-11 13:04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Isn't kullervo an Amiga 3000 which comes with a flicker-fixer built in? It's even an A3000UX! :-) In any case, I can dig out the SCART cable you mentioned and bring it to the meet up. Just to be save: TV + scart should always work. --

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/11/2015 11:03 AM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Clue me in on the details: where exactly is the meeting and what is the > agenda? Starting Friday afternoon at Torsten's company "tarent" in Bonn Duisdorf. > If there is no storm next weekend, I may drive down. The weather forecast doesn't

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/11/2015 11:28 AM, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote: > For the monitor: if there is a TV with Scart input, you'll only need the > typical Amiga RGB-Scart cable. VGA monitors will be problematic when they are > very strict on VGA specs. > I got the best experience with TV + Scart, though. Isn't kuller

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
Hi! For the monitor: if there is a TV with Scart input, you'll only need the typical Amiga RGB-Scart cable. VGA monitors will be problematic when they are very strict on VGA specs. I got the best experience with TV + Scart, though. -- Ingo Jürgensmann http://blog.windfluechter.net http://npbh

Re: meeting planning

2015-01-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:41:32PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I hope more people will come than have voted in the Doodle ;-) > /me thinks of Geert, Andreas, Michael, Christian, ??? > > Anyway: I???d like to know if anyone will be arriving on Friday > already, just for some s

meeting planning

2015-01-10 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi everyone, I hope more people will come than have voted in the Doodle ;-) /me thinks of Geert, Andreas, Michael, Christian, … Anyway: I’d like to know if anyone will be arriving on Friday already, just for some small amount of planning. I’m not an experienced “party” host, so, head-ups welcome,