Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-26 Thread Petr Stehlik
Finn Thain píše v Po 27. 04. 2009 v 16:42 +1000: > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > ...with aranym we have plenty of horsepower (although we need to > > fix the fpu emulation) > > Is anyone working on fpu emulation? Noone, AFAIK. Petr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-26 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > ...with aranym we have plenty of horsepower (although we need to > fix the fpu emulation) Is anyone working on fpu emulation? I just found a paper that mentions three different methods for validating a FPU implementation - http://www

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-15 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hi, > > Survival of the port may ultimately depend more on attracting new helpers > > than > > on re-inclusion in the main distribution. > > I'm inclined to agree. I think we'd have to have a whole lot more > interest and support in the port to make it back into sid. Things seem > to be head

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 04:07:39AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > You still need to be a DD to upload to the ports archive unless we > > want to forgo the possibility of recycling binaries if/should we > > return to the main archive. > > Can we have a show of hands with respect to this point?

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-13 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hi, > > Best option to get off etch in the short term, yes. > > > > We could start here, then work towards a general lenny-m68k release. Yep. And I did not mean to suggest we build absolutely everything in lenny. > > On the porting, toolchain and buildd front I've been largely silent in the

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-13 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:03:18PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > That's right, our old etch-m68k dpkg doesn't support Breaks. > The options I can think of are. > Option 1: backport dpkg to etch-m68k > Yuck. etch-m68k is old and likely insecure. Who knows what > back-porting dpkg wo

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-12 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 05:17:18AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > The toolchain is actually not that bad of shape, TLS aside. Most of > the issues should clear up once we have a more modern glibc :-/ gcc-4.3 has a fair number of problems. I started documenting at [0]. gcc-4.3 needs love almo

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-12 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Hi All, > >> > Option 2: lenny-lite >> >        Build lenny with base, build-essential, and buildd-required >> >        packages. I can probably do this one myself if there's >> >        interest. I'll probably include anything required for

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-11 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hi All, > > Option 2: lenny-lite > >        Build lenny with base, build-essential, and buildd-required > >        packages. I can probably do this one myself if there's > >        interest. I'll probably include anything required for d-i > >        too. > > > > Probably the sanest option, most o

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-11 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > So you may have noticed the following in your buildd logs for python- > depending packages. > > | dpkg: regarding .../python-docutils_0.5-3_all.deb containing > python-docutils: > |  package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg > | dp

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-11 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Brad Boyer wrote: > Would you say the missing TLS/NPTL for glibc is the biggest problem? I > thought there were some people working on it, which is why I stopped > even thinking about it. I know I don't spend much time on m68k work, > but I'm sure I could find a little time to

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-10 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:03:18PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > Option 4: throw in the towel > Say it's time to retire m68k on debian. We have an ancient > glibc with borked threads. gcc-4.3 is fairly broken. A > number of packages need some bugs fixed, others need some >

debian/m68k's future

2009-04-10 Thread Stephen R Marenka
So you may have noticed the following in your buildd logs for python- depending packages. | dpkg: regarding .../python-docutils_0.5-3_all.deb containing python-docutils: | package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg | dpkg: error processing /srv/chroot/sid/var/cache/apt/archives/python-docut