Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-14 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:36:51PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:20:07AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/sarge/ > > > > You will also need ramdisk_size=13000. > > I had 2 there, it has gone down to 13000? It d

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-14 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:27:08PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > > nativehd is a netinstall. > > hmmm, to the unsuspecting user it sounds like "nativehd" would be "put > all the files on hd and install from there".. maybe it should be renamed > or at least put into some popular sp

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-14 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Finn, > When using DSL from the mac, is the switch involved, or is the mac plugged > into the DSL router directly? When the DSL router is plugged into the > switch, does it negotiate a 10 Mb/s link with the switch? Maybe you can > hang the mac off a 10 MBit hub as a workaround (if you have one

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-14 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi Finn, > > > I suggest you check your netmasks (as in 192.168.x.x/16, rather than > > "192.168.x/24"). > > it is a 192.168.70.x.*/24 netmask.. i was just writing short style. > Moreover i have been able to track this a bit more down. All connections >

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-14 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Finn, > I suggest you check your netmasks (as in 192.168.x.x/16, rather than > "192.168.x/24"). it is a 192.168.70.x.*/24 netmask.. i was just writing short style. Moreover i have been able to track this a bit more down. All connections from 100MBit switched LAN will make the m68k network go d

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-14 Thread Erik C.J. Laan
G. Olson wrote: WRT .sit, .sea, etc. At the risk of stating the obvious, (and getting flamed), the Mac OS, prior to X identified files by type and creator parameters which are lost when a file is transfered by a non-Mac aware process. While a .sea (self extracting archive) is an executable, a

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-13 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Kilian Krause wrote: > ... > Now i have only the funny situation that i do have ssh and sendfile > installed and can connect to them locally. Yet from the network i > encounter timeouts from my router. From the workstation i even get a "no > route to host". > > Any idea what

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Erik C.J. Laan
Kars de Jong wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 22:31, Erik C.J. Laan wrote: Kilian Krause wrote: Hi again, or maybe someone could provide me with an image of some sda deboostrap i could use to dump onto my new to-be-Linux-harddrive. Then i wouldn't need to go through Penguin installing/booting.. Kilian,

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-13 Thread G. Olson
WRT .sit, .sea, etc. At the risk of stating the obvious, (and getting flamed), the Mac OS, prior to X identified files by type and creator parameters which are lost when a file is transfered by a non-Mac aware process. While a .sea (self extracting archive) is an executable, a Mac won't know t

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit (SOLVED)

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi, now, just to keep you posted. I have been able to install Debian now and it seems to be working quite well. I've used the netinstaller iso cvs snapshot from 20040812, bootet vmlinuz-2.2.25 with root22.bin. That made me go thru harddisk partitioning twice (the first of which was dreadfully slo

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Anthony J. Stuckey
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:36:51PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:20:07AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/sarge/ > > > > You will also need ramdisk_size=13000. > > I had 2 there, it has gone down to 13000?

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Christian, Am Fr, den 13.08.2004 schrieb Christian T. Steigies um 15:36: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:27:08PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > > > > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/sarge/ > > > > > > You will also need ramdisk_size=13000. > > > > > > Yep, now ramdisk_size=200

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:27:08PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/sarge/ > > > > You will also need ramdisk_size=13000. > > > Yep, now ramdisk_size=2 worked too. This definitely needs to go into > the manual too. Especially since Christian'

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:20:07AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/sarge/ > > You will also need ramdisk_size=13000. I had 2 there, it has gone down to 13000? Christian

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Erik, > What about EMILE (http://emile.sourceforge.net/)? Or is that not fit for > end-users yet? i can see it could boot from floppy. Does it also offer the possibility to be installed to hd directly? Like some lilo/grub for i386? -- Best regards, Kilian signature.asc Description: Dies i

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Stephen, > nativehd is a netinstall. hmmm, to the unsuspecting user it sounds like "nativehd" would be "put all the files on hd and install from there".. maybe it should be renamed or at least put into some popular space. I've now tried with "root22.bin" from today's netinstall CD-Rom.. what

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:55:52PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:35:04PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > > Now i'm somewhat lost with how to get the Penguin actually move. I've > > checked the d-i manual at: > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.m68k/index.htm

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 05:05:06PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Anthony J. Stuckey wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:29:53PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > Truthfully, I was thinking stuffit pretty much came with modern mac os > > > versions. Clearly not. > > > >

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:35:04PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi again, > > ok, here's the run-up. ;)) > > I finally got things working (even Netscape 4.08 installed *g*) by using > a CD-Rom with "-g --macbin" in the mkisofs call. That made the Mac find > the unstuff binary and consequently b

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi again, ok, here's the run-up. ;)) I finally got things working (even Netscape 4.08 installed *g*) by using a CD-Rom with "-g --macbin" in the mkisofs call. That made the Mac find the unstuff binary and consequently be able to use the Penguin.sit too. Christian, your Penguin.sea doesn't even

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Anthony, Am Fr, den 13.08.2004 schrieb Anthony J. Stuckey um 5:37: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:29:53PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > Truthfully, I was thinking stuffit pretty much came with modern mac os > > versions. Clearly not. > > It depends on what you mean by "modern". I th

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-13 Thread Finn Thain
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Anthony J. Stuckey wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:29:53PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > Truthfully, I was thinking stuffit pretty much came with modern mac os > > versions. Clearly not. > > It depends on what you mean by "modern". I think that was included >

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Anthony J. Stuckey
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:29:53PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > Truthfully, I was thinking stuffit pretty much came with modern mac os > versions. Clearly not. It depends on what you mean by "modern". I think that was included starting with 7.6.

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:29:53PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 05:59:41PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > > Btw. the README.txt states that /tools/ and /install/floppy/ would be > > holding all binaries i need to get the job done. Neither of those > > directories is on m

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 05:59:41PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi, > > i'm just trying to install Debian on a Quadra 650 with the d-i beta4 and > daily cvs snapshot. Both have only a Penguin-19.sit which cannot be > unpacked on my Mac for there's no StuffIt installed. All my efforts to > get som

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Kars de Jong
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 22:31, Erik C.J. Laan wrote: > Kilian Krause wrote: > > > Hi again, > > > > or maybe someone could provide me with an image of some sda deboostrap i > > could use to dump onto my new to-be-Linux-harddrive. Then i wouldn't > > need to go through Penguin installing/booting.. >

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Erik C.J. Laan
Kilian Krause wrote: Hi again, or maybe someone could provide me with an image of some sda deboostrap i could use to dump onto my new to-be-Linux-harddrive. Then i wouldn't need to go through Penguin installing/booting.. Kilian, This won't work, you always need Penguin to boot. At the moment there

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 05:59:41PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi, > > i'm just trying to install Debian on a Quadra 650 with the d-i beta4 and > daily cvs snapshot. Both have only a Penguin-19.sit which cannot be > unpacked on my Mac for there's no StuffIt installed. All my efforts to > get som

Re: d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi again, or maybe someone could provide me with an image of some sda deboostrap i could use to dump onto my new to-be-Linux-harddrive. Then i wouldn't need to go through Penguin installing/booting.. -- Best regards, Kilian P.S.: again, please CC me for answers.. signature.asc Description: Di

d-i problem with Penguin-19.sit

2004-08-12 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi, i'm just trying to install Debian on a Quadra 650 with the d-i beta4 and daily cvs snapshot. Both have only a Penguin-19.sit which cannot be unpacked on my Mac for there's no StuffIt installed. All my efforts to get some old m68k MOS 7.5 StuffIt installed have failed so far. Thus please, coul