Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-12-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 12/16/2016 11:28 PM, Finn Thain wrote: > I filed the bug report six months ago but got no response. The > 4.8.0-2-m68k package has no improvement. The kernel package has >1000 bug reports, it's sometimes possible Ben misses things. > Perhaps the bug report was ignored because it relates to th

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-12-16 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > BTW, I see that the Debian kernel config sets CONFIG_MAC_SCSI=y. As of > > v3.19 you can make that driver modular and save memory on systems that > > don't need it like Atari, Amiga and 68040 Macs. Similarly, > > CONFIG_MAC8390=y can

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-07 Thread Finn Thain
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016, I wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > On 06/04/2016 07:03 AM, Finn Thain wrote: > > > > > Yes, systemd is very slow to boot on this system, so timeouts are > > > likely to be the problem. I've since found that the serial console on a 40 MHz

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-04 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 06/04/2016 07:03 AM, Finn Thain wrote: > > > Yes, systemd is very slow to boot on this system, so timeouts are > > likely to be the problem. > > The timeouts are related to dbus, not to systemd. I thought you said, "dbus timeout in sys

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/04/2016 02:43 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > # ./debootstrap/deboostrap # ./debootstrap/deboostrap --second-stage I should take a break and go outside, jesus. Sorry! -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Ber

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/04/2016 02:38 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Just omit all the sbuild parts, i.e. just run debootstrap with --foreign and > --arch=m68k, then copy qemu-m68k-static into the chroot and run the following > command after changing into the chroot: > > # ./debootstrap/deboostrap Oops, th

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/04/2016 07:03 AM, Finn Thain wrote: > Yes, systemd is very slow to boot on this system, so timeouts are likely > to be the problem. The timeouts are related to dbus, not to systemd. I also do not think that sysvinit would actually be faster. sysvinit runs shell code for boilerplate stuff wh

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-03 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > And I'm getting "Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out" > > from systemctl, and other systemd weirdness like a shutdown hang. > > This is actually a known issue in systemd and fixing it is still on my > TODO list, I just

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/03/2016 02:40 PM, Finn Thain wrote: > Like Stefan, I found that the serial console works intermittently. > Sometimes it boots fine e.g. > > [ OK ] Found device /dev/ttyS0. > ... > Starting Serial Getty on ttyS0... > [ OK ] Started Serial Getty on ttyS0. > > But at other times

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-06-03 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 30 May 2016, I wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > You can just install the m68k cross-toolchain in Debian > > testing/unstable, then download the kernel sources or ask Finn to > > provide you with the sources he has and then build the kernel wi

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 30 May 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Well, yes, ADB support is currently broken as you have heard. So, either > you look into fixing it yourself or you install a much older version > of Debian. I don't think you can anyone else to jump in right now and > fix the driver for y

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/30/2016 03:48 PM, Finn Thain wrote: > Another possible cause of the hang is a known Penguin bug triggered by > some large gzip'd kernel binaries. The workaround for this is to unzip it > before asking Penguin to load it. This is what I had in mind when I was thinking I had some problems wi

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 30 May 2016, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > > > > On my Centris 650, ADB support is working fine with the 3.16 stock > > kernel in any case. > > > > Now this is probably the thing to try out. Yes, you should definitely try out the debian kernel. It is possible that you can get a working

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/30/2016 03:32 PM, Finn Thain wrote: > That kernel already has CONFIG_FHANDLE=y. (The config file is included in > the download.) Well, that's odd then. >> I remember I had to fiddle around a bit to get it booting, but since the >> machine is currently in my basement, I'm afraid, I can't h

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 30 May 2016, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > You can just install the m68k cross-toolchain in Debian > testing/unstable, then download the kernel sources or ask Finn to > provide you with the sources he has and then build the kernel with > CONFIG_FHANDLE. That kernel already has

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/30/2016 01:10 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >> Well, yes, ADB support is currently broken as you have heard. So, either >> you look into fixing it yourself or you install a much older version >> of Debian. I don't think you can anyone else to jump in right now and >> fix the driver for you. >>

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 30.05.2016 um 12:50 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > On 05/30/2016 12:36 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >> No, i wasn't. Thats beyond my abilities. I just wanted to install Debian >> to my friend's old Mac. > > Well, you are installing on 20+-year-old hardware. I don't think it's fair > to a

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/30/2016 12:36 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > No, i wasn't. Thats beyond my abilities. I just wanted to install Debian > to my friend's old Mac. Well, you are installing on 20+-year-old hardware. I don't think it's fair to assume that everything works out-of-the-box and is straight-forward to

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 30.05.2016 um 12:31 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > On 05/30/2016 12:28 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >> Seems like for Geert it was something he just needed to be remembered >> of. No idea how to CONFIG HANDLE on a system i cannot access. > > You are aware that anything starting with CONF

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/30/2016 12:28 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > Seems like for Geert it was something he just needed to be remembered > of. No idea how to CONFIG HANDLE on a system i cannot access. You are aware that anything starting with CONFIG_ is a kernel configuration option that you have to set when build

Re: Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Sorry, i messed up this mail - don't reply here, please Am 30.05.2016 um 12:28 schrieb Stefan Niestegge: > > Am 30.05.2016 um 11:45 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: >> On 05/30/2016 11:42 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >>> Later in booting, i got messages >>> [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device

Fwd: Re: Debian on mac68k

2016-05-30 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 30.05.2016 um 11:45 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > On 05/30/2016 11:42 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >> Later in booting, i got messages >> [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device dev-ttyS0.device. >> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Serial Getty on ttyS0. >> >> i can try with console=/dev/tty