rting it from "CC0"
> to "MODE_CC" as described in [1].
> (...)
Just as a heads-up: The campaign has been successful. We have collected over
$6000 in funds and an experienced GCC developer picked up the task and converted
the m68k backend to MODE_CC [1].
I have created an
Hi Richard!
On 9/29/19 11:26 PM, Richard Z wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> As m68k is the oldest port of both the Linux kernel and Debian after i386,
>> it would be a shame to see it go as there is still very good upstream support
>> in the
I think it's not possible to find an agreement.
>
> To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial
> Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC task is a
> good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to pay people for their
> time. I thi
On 9/30/19 4:59 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Had I been asked for m68k hardware in this instance, I don't think I
> would have even blinked before approving the request.
The only reason I am asking is because we're currently in a situation
where we need external help. We are trying to be as cost-effec
Hi Ian!
Apologies for my late reply.
On 9/30/19 12:40 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Paul Wise writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task"):
>> To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial
>> Debian ports is valuable and import
>>>>> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes:
Ian> Charles Plessy writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc
Ian> development task"):
>> given the reminders that Debian refrains from paying developers
>> for their time, I wonder
Charles Plessy writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development
task"):
> given the reminders that Debian refrains from paying developers for
> their time, I wonder if it would still be possible to make a small
> contribution that expresses Debian's interest a
Paul Wise writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task"):
> To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial
> Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC task is a
> good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to p
Hello,
On 30.09.19 06:20, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
In the future, gcc upstream expects all backends to be using MODE_CC for the
internal register representation as the old CC0 is supposed to be removed.
Since the lack o
Le Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>
> In the future, gcc upstream expects all backends to be using MODE_CC for the
> internal register representation as the old CC0 is supposed to be removed.
>
> Since the lack of modernization would eventually mean tha
o be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial
Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC task is a
good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to pay people for their
time. I think that crowdfunding the m68k GCC task could work.
--
bye,
pabs
https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, Hector Oron wrote:
>
> Reaching those forums or even organizing a crowd funding campaign might
> be more appropriate.
>
A democratic process like that may also be appropriate to disburse funding
from the Debian Project itself. E.g. Debian Developers could each vote for
a
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> As m68k is the oldest port of both the Linux kernel and Debian after i386,
> it would be a shame to see it go as there is still very good upstream support
> in the Linux kernel with new drivers being added regularly [4],
Hello Brock!
On 9/29/19 4:10 PM, Brock Wittrock wrote:
> 1) It was a simple enough request and reasonable in my opinion. I'm also glad
> that he was willing to ask in the first place because as some say, when you
> don't ask the answer is already no anyways, so why not ask?
>
> 2) I understand
; Thanks,
> Brock
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 8:54 AM Aron Xu wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 7:58 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Regardless, I think you have your answer.
>> > > Absent the appearance of significant n
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 7:58 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> wrote:
> >
> > > Regardless, I think you have your answer.
> > > Absent the appearance of significant new support, there is not
> > > sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 7:58 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
>
> > Regardless, I think you have your answer.
> > Absent the appearance of significant new support, there is not
> > sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k gcc development.
>
> I don&#
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 01:58:13PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I don't think we have heard enough voices yet to be able to answer that
question.
Are you really asking for a long list of +1s? Ok--I agree with the
majority of expressed opinions that this is a bad idea.
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
> But I think the list on the page archive criteria is a bit dishonest as
> well when it asks "Are machines available to buy for the general public?"
> while I don't think an IBM Z mainframe is available to buy for the general
> public.
At last for upstream, the diffe
of significant new support, there is not
> sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k gcc development.
I don't think we have heard enough voices yet to be able to answer that
question.
Adrian
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Hi Hector,
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:49 PM Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
> > And there are embedded open source Coldfire boards being developed:
> >
> > > http://sysam.it/cff_amcore.html
> > > http://sysam.it/cff_stmark2.h
On 9/29/19 12:48 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
>
>> I communicated the issue to multiple mailing lists, so I assume the active
>> m68k people have received my mail. But I haven't heard back from them.
>
> In particular,
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:48:51PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les
> 12:20:
.
> > As Linus stated in his mail, the Amiga never dies:
> >
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/24/993
>
> Reaching those forums or even o
ent and is more focused on understanding positions than judging
them or persuading others.
Regardless, I think you have your answer.
Absent the appearance of significant new support, there is not
sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k gcc development.
--Sam
Hello,
Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
> I communicated the issue to multiple mailing lists, so I assume the active
> m68k people have received my mail. But I haven't heard back from them.
In particular, have you reached to Andreas Schwab?
(> Is t
On 9/29/19 12:07 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
>> So, would -project be willing to support our cause through Debian funds?
>
> I have been looking at
> https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/m68k, I was expecting
> some answers to the questions proposed at
> https://ftp-mast
Hello,
Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
del dia ds., 28 de set. 2019 a les 11:44:
> So, would -project be willing to support our cause through Debian funds?
I have been looking at
https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/m68k, I was expecting
some answers to the questions proposed
Hi,
On 2019-09-28 11:44, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm posting here on behalf the Debian Ports team as we're seeking support
Just for clarification, what you call "Debian Ports team" is the group
of porters working on some of the ports hosted on the "Debian Ports" [1]
service
d to coordinate some
things first, the primary decision being which funding platform we are going
to use.
Since Debian is also supporting projects for a good cause using their funds,
I was wondering whether the project would also be willing to help support
our cause to modernize the m68k backend i
Am 30.05.2013 um 11:24 schrieb Wouter Verhelst :
>>> I think hardware (both base computers, as I don???t recall seeing a
>>> Macintosh, only Atari (VM and real) and Amiga, here recently, other
>>> than what Finn does upstream and in Gentoo) and hardware extensions
>>> (RAM, NIC, HDD, oh and did I
On 28-05-13 00:26, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:27:38PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
>> Ingo Jürgensmann dixit:
>>
>>> Another possible way to spent some money could be to buy some stuff
>>> the m68k port could need, like SCSI<>SATA adaptors or NICs or so.
>>
>> I thin
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:27:38PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Ingo Jürgensmann dixit:
>
> >Another possible way to spent some money could be to buy some stuff
> >the m68k port could need, like SCSI<>SATA adaptors or NICs or so.
>
> I think hardware (both base computers, as I don???t recall s
Ingo Jürgensmann dixit:
>Another possible way to spent some money could be to buy some stuff
>the m68k port could need, like SCSI<>SATA adaptors or NICs or so.
I think hardware (both base computers, as I don’t recall seeing a
Macintosh, only Atari (VM and real) and Amiga, here recently, other
tha
Am 24.05.2013 um 18:24 schrieb Eric Hilgart :
> Is there a specific way to donate money to you guys to continue porting
> Debian to 68k (especially Mac) computers?
Hmm, good question...
First thing: a very big "thank you" that you want to support the m68k port with
some in order to support t
To Whom it May Concern,
Is there a specific way to donate money to you guys to continue porting
Debian to 68k (especially Mac) computers?
Eric
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