Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I do care about it. But I see no particular reason for urgency about >> the particular bug, and obviously, the m68k team doesn't either. > > Obviously? They ignored it for a long time, and as far as I know, haven't requested the maintainer to treat it

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm and here I thought you would care about this package, the way you > constantly asked about its status... I do care about it. But I see no particular reason for urgency about the particular bug, and obviously, the m68k team doesn't either. Thomas

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The point is that these release criteria have practically enforced a black > and white scheme - either you're with us or you're on your own. Actually, Anthony Towns described about a half-dozen distinct possibilities, and outlined the advantages and dis

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Then m68k would be a suitable release candidate for etch+1. > > As usual you're avoiding the issue. The answer is not _that_ simple. Really? What are the great mysterious complexities in it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PS: 4 days and still no response to guile-1.6 patch... Maybe you should ask the guile-1.6 maintainer? I'm not responsible for the package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Well, that's what we want as well and if m68k could provide this, what's >> > the reason

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, that's what we want as well and if m68k could provide this, what's > the reason this couldn't be released as "Debian"? So far, m68k *can't* provide it. That's the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you have no fucking clue as to what the current state of things is > and why the architecture has been thrown out, I suggest you keep your > petty comments to yourself. > * Etch isn't screwed because of a desperate attempt to support m68k in > it,

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, this is irrelevant for this thread as the topic of this thread is "m68k > not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?" and not > "Thomas Bushnell would like to see his packages being built on m68k". Maybe > that's disappointing

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh well... you already know that m68k suffered from serious toolchain > problems, which are fixed now thanks to Roman, Stephen Marenka and others, > and that the w-b queueing algorithm is not known to be very intelligent, > i.e. it doesn't queue in o

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh well... you already know that m68k suffered from serious toolchain > problems, which are fixed now thanks to Roman, Stephen Marenka and others, > and that the w-b queueing algorithm is not known to be very intelligent, > i.e. it doesn't queue in o

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What are the porters wanted to say? "We want to release with Etch?" I think > that's obvious and the porters are doing their best to keep the port going > and keeping up as much as possible. Why is the most recent g-wrap still not compiled for m68k

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:28:55AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> >> It's not like I hunted around for problems, I simply looked at the >> cases closest to the packages I maintain, asking "why don't

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Does this explain why guile-1.6 is still not compiled for m68k? > > Maybe you just wanted to know if the bug is solved in the meanwhile, but > your way to ask is very, uhm, bad, because it includes some sort of attack. > Your question can be under

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You did not ask Roman to provide examples of "fixes are just stuck in the > BTS", you picked your own bug and then complains it is not a good example > ? Is not that non-sense ? No, what I did was I asked how his claim relates to a particular bug in a

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > was your initial phrase 'Please > let the release team know how we can be of assistance to you in setting > and meeting goals for an m68k release' just a hollow phrase... I never said anything of the kind. If the m68k team can make the port happen wit

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Your message was deliberately misleading, designed to suggest that >> there had been a fix in for a while (even if "not that old yet"), when >> in fact, the patch was posted *after* my message. > > What the hell is your problem? Yes, the patch is _one_ d

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> > I'm not sure what you intent with this question. The patch is not that >> > old yet, but it's there: >> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.c

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in >> > many cases maintainer si

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in > many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have > to bug people to get them to release a fixed package. Does this explain why guile-1.6 is still not com

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-09-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > True, but I've filed a number of such bugs only to find they were gcc > toolchain problems. Many others were ignored out right, since we're > not RC. I hadn't intended to file that bug until I had ruled out the > compiler and maybe could file an in

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not saying quantity isn't a problem or that politics isn't annoying, > but the m68k port's biggest problem since gcc-4.0 rolled out has been > the toolchain. I don't think this is the only thing, however. Notice that guile-1.6 has not built

Re: scm on m68k

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 11:41:12AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> However, there is no developer-accessible m68k machine. > > Uh? Since when is crest.debian.org not DD accessible anymore? And kullervo > is access

scm on arm

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Sorry for the previous message, it contained innacurate information. The correct info is: I would like to debug the failure of scm to build on m68k, or receive patches from someone else who has done so. The buildfailure is at http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=scm&ver=5d9-5&arch=m68k&stamp

Re: lilypond build on m68k

2005-03-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
"Matthias Urlichs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG: > > > The size is always 46, and this seems to happen on m68k only. > > > Any idea where that comes from? > > > > Not a clue, but with a build log I might be able to figure

Re: lilypond build on m68k

2005-03-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > lilypond, building on m68k, logs heaps of lines like the next two: > > Attempt to free something of size 46 > Attempt to allocate something of size 46 > > The size is always 46, and this seems to happen on m68k only. > > Any idea where that comes f