Re: signal delivery, was Re: reliable reproducer

2023-04-26 Thread Brad Boyer
kernel stack. Isn't that a security hole? If we restore the exception frame from user memory, doesn't that allow a malicious program to affect the internal state of the CPU just by handling a signal? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: instrumentation, was Re: core dump analysis

2023-04-15 Thread Brad Boyer
rresponding UNLK instruction to tear down the stack frame which will frequently be the last instruction before returning to the caller. The compiler will use these in the function prologue and epilogue in all but the most trivial functions. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Debian initramfs/initrd, was Re: stack smashing detected

2023-02-07 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 12:41:52PM -0700, Stan Johnson wrote: > Yes, I do have the L2 cache card installed in the IIci. > > If you think it would be useful, I don't mind letting the SE/30 run > overnight to see if it eventually boots. I don't know if it would be useful in any practical sense, but

Re: Debian initramfs/initrd, was Re: stack smashing detected

2023-02-07 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 12:31:17AM -0700, Stan Johnson wrote: > On 2/6/23 8:25 PM, Finn Thain wrote: > > > > These systems are too slow for needless key generation so a bug report > > may be needed. > > > > The Mac IIci (25 MHz) is only about 50% faster that the SE/30 (16 MHz). > The Debian ker

Re: m68k OCaml porting issue

2021-12-24 Thread Brad Boyer
060, with gcc 7.4.0 & gcc 10.3.0. The m68k PRM would seem to indicate that the FPU in both the 6888x and the 68040 doesn't do a signed NAN. It specifically lists the sign bit as a don't care bit for NAN while zero and infinity are both listed as being signed quantities. It seems to me this is expected behavior on the real hardware. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: 80-bit subnormals printed incorrectly on Debian 11 M68K

2021-07-22 Thread Brad Boyer
e real hardware. I'm not even sure if any of them still work. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-23 Thread Brad Boyer
er card in a IIsi. The implication is that the official RBV driver pretends to be a NuBus device driver. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-23 Thread Brad Boyer
ROM chips with the newer ones. In any case, both the II and IIx need some funny PAL enhanced SIMMs to use larger sizes. They fixed that in the IIcx and SE/30, which are the same basic logical design. However, I would have thought this would lead to the opposite solution. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-21 Thread Brad Boyer
to be bigger. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-16 Thread Brad Boyer
first bank is soldered on instead of being normal SIMM slots. I believe the max settings on RBV end up being something like 320kB usage for video on both models. I'm pretty sure RBV maxes out at 8-bit color. However, it's true that wouldn't leave much wasted on a IIsi if we can't use

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-14 Thread Brad Boyer
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 02:33:26PM +1300, Michael Schmitz wrote: > On 15/03/21 10:13 am, Brad Boyer wrote: > >I believe one of the headaches is that the address is non-programmable > >and requires the framebuffer not just to be in bank A, but to start at > >address 0 which m

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-14 Thread Brad Boyer
change the color palettes on some of the more common hardware. On the Atari, is the rest of the low memory usable if the kernel isn't there? I seem to recall it is only accessible by that special allocator in that case, not as generic memory. I'm not sure of anything else we have on a

Re: Kernel uses only half of Mac IIci memory with built-in video

2021-03-11 Thread Brad Boyer
can't cleanly handle adding the first bank (which has lower physical addresses) to usable memory after the second bank. I'm pretty sure that used to work. It's somewhat similar to the problem between the fast and slow RAM on the Atari systems. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: udev and friends not able to mount Atari GEMDOS partition

2020-09-08 Thread Brad Boyer
sounds like libblkid isn't recognizing the FS. Can you try running blkid on the device? If it can't detect the FS type, that might be a place where there is an issue. The libblkid code is not based on the drivers in the kernel, but is still essential for a portion of the auto-detection o

Re: Xorg woes

2020-09-05 Thread Brad Boyer
v.so, not > libinput.drv ... > > Saying that - libinput does appear to work for your keyboard (of sorts)... Isn't it necessary to tell X that you have a PC model keyboard these days? I had thought the kernel was now reporting PC style keycodes on all keyboard types. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: TO DO, was Re: localtalk, pcmcia etc.

2020-08-19 Thread Brad Boyer
diagram for the Q900 shows Caboose connected to VIA1 instead of directly to the CPU. The MESS hardware information claims it is a 68HC05 just like Egret and Cuda. Perhaps we should try the via-cuda driver with ADB disabled and see what happens? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: TO DO, was Re: localtalk, pcmcia etc.

2020-08-14 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:52:08AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Brad Boyer wrote: > > > > That's probably true. We have so much on the list already. I know there > > were several other things I wanted to check out first. I have a wide > > var

Re: localtalk, was Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-14 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 08:43:00AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2020, Brad Boyer wrote: > > > > That will make for a really messy driver, but it could be done with some > > careful thought. It could also be made conditional on m68k so that a ppc > > ba

Re: localtalk, was Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-12 Thread Brad Boyer
nfiguration, etc. It sounds like the first step might be to audit all the other common drivers to see which ones are disabling interrupts too long. I know we do quite a bit of that. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: localtalk, was Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-12 Thread Brad Boyer
;t support any of the 8MHz models. It might be more practical on some of the PCI PowerMacs that are both running much faster CPUs and have real DMA as well. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: localtalk, was Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-11 Thread Brad Boyer
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:33:53AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Brad Boyer wrote: > > If I'm interpreting the docs correctly, we will have to talk to the > > serial controller around 8000 times per second (230kbit/s and 4 bytes at > > a time from the

Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-11 Thread Brad Boyer
r ... Just in case someone feels > like a little kernel hacking for fun, if not profit) I think that sort of logic was restricted to special PDMA windows or interfaces explicitly put into PDMA mode (like SCSI DMA on the IIfx). It would still have to be tested to be sure. We've certainly disassembled other parts of the code to do stuff. I remember spending hours in MacsBug disassembling ROM code years ago. That's how we confirmed some details on the IIfx hardware. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-11 Thread Brad Boyer
ccording to the code. I've never tried it myself, but it should work. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: pcmcia ethernet card support for m68k?

2020-08-10 Thread Brad Boyer
ce the same hardware is present on the PB5300 and PB1400. Later PowerBooks have cardbus slots (since they are PCI based) and don't need this specific driver. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: Using more than 1 GB in qemu-m68k-system

2019-12-14 Thread Brad Boyer
for that card. Can a regular driver add RAM, or would we have to detect that in the core code somewhere? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com

Re: [RFC] m68k: Update defconfigs for v3.9

2013-05-25 Thread Brad Boyer
27;d expect to see a PSC4 IRQ like 33 or 34. I know there was a hack at one point to fake the separate IRQ lines for the two ports on the non-PSC systems in order to make some of the logic common, but I thought that was taken out. That was one way a non-PSC system used to get (fake) PSC

Re: [RFC] m68k: Update defconfigs for v3.9

2013-05-25 Thread Brad Boyer
y y . y y y y y . Shouldn't MAC_PARTITION be enabled for the mac configuration? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://l

Re: SEGV (was Re: Internal compiler error on m68k for gcc-4.6)

2012-12-02 Thread Brad Boyer
h my Q950 actually has installed in it. I did find a place online selling the 16M 30 pin SIMMs that would be required for that total. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: The future of an SCC that has been given up on

2012-05-27 Thread Brad Boyer
a rather than one modern enough to run regular Linux. Using modern peripherals might be a better help than a faster CPU. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120528035935.ga15...@cynthia.pants.nu

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-19 Thread Brad Boyer
a in a VDSO will likely remove most of the > overhead. Also, a lot of TLS relaxing is still missing in the linker. I have to admit I haven't had much time for m68k development, but has there been progress on implementing the VDSO? It sounded like an interesting project, but I never see

Re: Updating w.d.o/{intro/organization#distribution,ports/}

2012-04-20 Thread Brad Boyer
sets. All of the other nubus SCSI cards I've found are various ESP chips (NCR53c90A, Emulex FAS101, etc.) and thus wouldn't be much faster than the on-board chips except on the really old mac models. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: mac kernel issues (was Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs)

2011-10-23 Thread Brad Boyer
7;t end up getting it done myself and didn't hear anything more from them either. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111023183010.ga6...@cynthia.pants.nu

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-09 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:56:20PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Brad Boyer wrote: > > I still haven't found the time to get it working in Linux, but I did > > find and buy a 100BaseT NuBus card. It even has a chip on it that > > appears to be the same

Re: nbd vs. failing HDDs (was Re: Status)

2011-09-09 Thread Brad Boyer
B/s range as I recall. Most other Macs are much better. I recently acquired an FWB JackHammer card, which can take 68-pin SCSI drives. It uses an NCR 53c720, so it should be possible to get it working and get much better SCSI performance than the built-in SCSI interfaces of any Mac (including ppc mode

Re: PMU, was Re: d-i built (but not tested)

2011-08-12 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:37:58AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Brad Boyer wrote: > > The basic idea is that any time the PMU thinks you aren't following the > > right communication protocol (including the timing between messages) it > > will just

Re: serial console, was Re: d-i built (but not tested)

2011-08-12 Thread Brad Boyer
ust power off. It makes for tons of fun. I haven't done much with the one m68k PowerBook I acquired due to lack of time, but it is not an easy platform to handle. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: linux-2.6_2.6.38-5_m68k.changes ACCEPTED

2011-05-14 Thread Brad Boyer
;t have a normal PCMCIA socket driver for the Amiga and use the pcnet_cs driver for this case? I know it would be a fair amount of work even if it is possible, but I'm curious to know if there was anything other than a historical reason. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To

Re: linux-2.6_2.6.38-5_m68k.changes ACCEPTED

2011-05-12 Thread Brad Boyer
could get the orinoco_cs driver working. I don't have the time, but I do have a PowerBook 190 and some PCMCIA cards to try out. It's on the very long list of things I'd like to look at eventually. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-req

Re: gcc 4.5 and TLS

2010-06-06 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:52:00AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: > Is there a document somewhere on how all of this works, or is it > just the comments scattered about all the code? The man page for > the system call isn't really enough to explain the implementation. I wouldn't nor

Re: gcc 4.5 and TLS

2010-06-06 Thread Brad Boyer
on how all of this works, or is it just the comments scattered about all the code? The man page for the system call isn't really enough to explain the implementation. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: gcc 4.5 and TLS

2010-06-06 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:42:40AM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Brad Boyer writes: > > > I may be missing something obvious, but why don't we just change the > > kernel to allow 2-byte alignment for m68k? The comment in futex.c > > just says "natural&quo

Re: gcc 4.5 and TLS

2010-06-05 Thread Brad Boyer
;t we just change the kernel to allow 2-byte alignment for m68k? The comment in futex.c just says "natural" alignment but is then hard-coded for sizeof(u32). What would break if we just changed the code in get_futex_key to allow this? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com --

Re: First steps towards PCMCIA support on the PB190

2009-11-30 Thread Brad Boyer
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:10:29PM +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Brad Boyer wrote: > > Just as a note, I never saw the original message come across the mailing > > list. Also, you might want to include linux-m...@lists.linux-m68k.org on > > this sort of top

Re: First steps towards PCMCIA support on the PB190

2009-11-27 Thread Brad Boyer
bt that this is a realistic alternative. This is pretty much the sort of thing we've constantly encountered trying to get old Macs to work. Unless someone can get official docs on the chip, we may need to try to reverse engineer the Apple drivers for all of this stuff. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Add private syscalls to support NPTL

2009-11-09 Thread Brad Boyer
6.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba0a6c9f6fceed11c6a99e8326f0477fe383e6b5 If I'm reading the dates correctly, this commit wasn't in 2.6.31. As a side note, there is already a patch floating around to fix that commit, which apparently broke stuff. http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/56568/ Brad

Re: Loopback block device missing in hdinstall initrd?

2009-10-11 Thread Brad Boyer
l that it controls both PCMCIA and the media bay in those models, as well as the PB1400. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: status of Q950

2009-10-07 Thread Brad Boyer
ave a IIfx and did some of the initial work along with JMT to get it running, but it's not in such great shape now. It was pretty unreliable the last time I had it running. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: libc6/libgcc2/kiivi

2009-06-28 Thread Brad Boyer
patch1 on this server. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: libc6/libgcc2/kiivi

2009-06-27 Thread Brad Boyer
(what will become gcc-4.5). That's good to hear. Thank you for passing along the status. Any word on the kernel changes that I presume are required to use the new TLS code? Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: debian/m68k's future

2009-04-10 Thread Brad Boyer
es, but it's a great place to hack around and learn without causing a lot of headaches. Brad Boyer f...@allandria.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Fwd: newb question : list of elligible computers to debian-68k

2008-10-16 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:54:46PM +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Brad Boyer wrote: > > I will note that this bug is known to affect the line-A trap that the > > classic Mac system uses for system calls. Apple had a workaround for > > this bug for l

Re: Fwd: newb question : list of elligible computers to debian-68k

2008-10-16 Thread Brad Boyer
ause both the emulation trap and the page fault on a good CPU. If you miss one, it's a broken CPU. It would most likely need to be done in an isolated thread to be safe. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Adopters for m68k specific packages?

2008-07-18 Thread Brad Boyer
age. This is the case in sarge and etch. http://packages.debian.org/etch/powerpc-utils The nvram package according to the packages.debian.org site is m68k only. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: [buildd] wanna-build

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Boyer
ed to help than previous ones. It's probably worth trying to see if bringing it up will help. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kernel

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Boyer
lf and the person doing it doesn't actually care about sharing files with the host. It would be nice to have the option of doing this. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [buildd] getting w-b access back?

2008-06-14 Thread Brad Boyer
rrupt for the end of transfer notification. > In that case, a reset of the ADB IOP should indeed be safe to perform from > the booted system. It ought to be. We just don't have any code that does it after the initial setup during boot as of the last time I looked at the code. Brad

Re: [buildd] getting w-b access back?

2008-06-13 Thread Brad Boyer
lso handle SCSI DMA?) so a watchdog/reset would be preferred. > Can we actually reset the IOP without deadlocking SCSI or interrupts? No, the SCSI doesn't have anything to do with the IOPs. The IOP with the ADB also handles the floppy drives, but nothing else. There is another IOP that ha

Re: [buildd] getting w-b access back?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Boyer
ere are some bits and pieces of it already in the code. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Internet superserver

2008-05-08 Thread Brad Boyer
Just so you know, it's not inetd causing the INIT error message. It's purely a coincidence that inetd is mentioned in the line before the error. Those error messages from init are references to programs listed in the file /etc/inittab as being managed by init directly. Brad

Re: Internet superserver

2008-05-06 Thread Brad Boyer
Do you get a login prompt on the console? The numbered entries in inittab are generally the getty processes for console login. The common reason for something like that is not having the right files in /dev for the console. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Kernel Panic

2008-05-05 Thread Brad Boyer
els. It won't have all the latest patches, but it will be much more recent than the one you tried. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Centris 650: buildd candidate?

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Boyer
; chip though. In any case, I have quite a few Macs now, and could borrow > an '040 from a Q700 if needed. I looked online and at least one site agreed that Apple did ship a C650 with a full 68040 chip. It wasn't clear if all of them shipped that way, but I would expect the System Pr

Re: Centris 650: buildd candidate?

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Boyer
system installed on it. After that you can try out things and see what works well. Maybe try a kernel compile or something to see how well it runs and let us know how long it took for a standard configuration. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: debootstrapping m68k-coldfire

2008-03-04 Thread Brad Boyer
use to mess around with stuff I wouldn't have a chance to get code accepted on an architecture that had real users. I don't expect to ever use any of my m68k systems for any actual work. However, I would be a little disappointed if there wasn't a distribution I could install and work

Re: freegeek and m68k

2008-02-24 Thread Brad Boyer
ple are in Europe, but several of the Mac focused people are not. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-24 Thread Brad Boyer
Google really will let us use their teleconference setups, that would be convenient. The Google HQ in Mountain View isn't that bad a drive for me. I work just a couple miles away from there. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Call for Debian Installer testing, before D-I Beta1 release

2008-02-12 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 07:16:29AM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 06:04:24PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 01:29:33PM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > Which initrd? cdrom and hd-media want a cd image. nativehd will downloa

Re: Call for Debian Installer testing, before D-I Beta1 release

2008-02-11 Thread Brad Boyer
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 01:29:33PM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 04:27:56AM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: > > I did download and try to boot the m68k build of this installer. The > > Which initrd? cdrom and hd-media want a cd image. nativehd will download &g

Re: Call for Debian Installer testing, before D-I Beta1 release

2008-02-11 Thread Brad Boyer
th the files downloaded to a local partition at this point. Still, it does look like we're not in as bad of shape as we thought. I'm just curious how much RAM I would need to avoid the low-memory mode, and if there's anything I'm missing because of that. It's not like

Re: New to list

2008-02-09 Thread Brad Boyer
e was commented out because it didn't work on the old VIA style access. The ADB access is pretty easy by comparison. If the CUDA works, you can probably uncomment it for all the adb_request style access. I have a IIsi someplace that I could test if you don't have anything with that styl

Re: New to list

2008-02-08 Thread Brad Boyer
/shutdown code path, but I guess he fixed the RTC and PRAM routines while he was changing the file. I actually was involved in the mailing list discussion and reviewed that change, but I guess I lost track of things. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: New to list

2008-02-07 Thread Brad Boyer
angement as the MacII style while the Q900/Q950 are a one-off thing that nobody ever quite figured out completely. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New to list

2008-02-07 Thread Brad Boyer
quot; at > " and "cron " need the hardware clock to work. Unless someone has fixed it without telling the list, the hwclock interfaces are still broken on the 2.6 kernels for the mac subarch. There have been too many things broken and not enough people working on them, I&#x

Re: EMILE package testers sought

2008-02-04 Thread Brad Boyer
o more than minor changes. The layouts are very similar. Apple just has a single driver for both in OSX. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: EMILE package testers sought

2008-02-04 Thread Brad Boyer
robably easier with the user space tools, but just creating files and writing to them should work better using the kernel support. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "Illegal instruction" for most trivial of programs

2008-02-04 Thread Brad Boyer
e specific value of 128? I would suggest trying to disassemble that part of the object file and see what you get. It might also be worthwhile to look at the assembly code generated by the compiler (add -save-temps to your gcc options). Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBS

Re: 68k & ppc mac motherboards

2007-12-30 Thread Brad Boyer
be shipping from? I wouldn't mind paying to ship something interesting, but if it's going halfway around the world it gets expensive. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IIci, was Bug in frexp() on m68k?

2007-12-24 Thread Brad Boyer
it's been an issue more than once. The internal video on the IIci and IIsi steals the memory at physical address 0 for the frame buffer, and we haven't always taken that into consideration. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Draft TLS/NPTL ABI for m68k and ColdFire, version 0.2

2007-12-03 Thread Brad Boyer
t; correct thread value is written to the correct page... Did you have anything in a condition to share? I'm interested in poking at it a bit, and it would be easer to start from something that has already had some work done for m68k rather than starting from what is there for a different archi

Re: Draft TLS/NPTL ABI for m68k and ColdFire, version 0.2

2007-12-03 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 11:43:18PM +, Joseph S. Myers wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Brad Boyer wrote: > > I also tried to look for the ARM magic page implementation, but I > > couldn't find it. Any pointers to where I should be looking? I've > > never done any wo

Re: Draft TLS/NPTL ABI for m68k and ColdFire, version 0.2

2007-12-02 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 01:08:07AM +, Joseph S. Myers wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Brad Boyer wrote: > > > * There are no spare registers available to designate as the thread > > > register. Therefore, kernel magic is needed to obtain the thread > > > p

Re: Draft TLS/NPTL ABI for m68k and ColdFire, version 0.2

2007-11-30 Thread Brad Boyer
eeds to ensure memory > synchronization between processors. Can you get SMP ColdFire boxes? Linux has historically not supported SMP on m68k, and much of the code isn't really SMP safe (particularly some of the drivers for 68k based systems). This isn't to say we shouldn't have this optio

Re: Washi

2007-11-24 Thread Brad Boyer
hing installed on it at the moment. Let me know if getting it running and on the net would help. Someone else would probably need to help with the buildd setup. I could NFS export some space from another system for any disk needs. It couldn't be much slower than the current SCSI driver that doesn&

Re: glibc progress?

2007-11-20 Thread Brad Boyer
ng. Is there any specific time frame that we need something working? I'm not sure of the current schedule for lenny in terms of when the toolchain needs to be ready and what version is expected to be used in the final release. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: 68k programmers reference manual

2007-10-20 Thread Brad Boyer
. > > just in case anyone else still needs or could use a copy > ($50 though they were asking). It disappeared from the listing there several days ago. I considered buying it, but it was gone before I decided if it was worth $50. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: meeting?

2007-08-10 Thread Brad Boyer
Efika is available for 99$ I think, just add a video card > and a harddisk and you have a nice silent machine. For m68k Macs, it completely depends on the model. Based on what I found online, the Quadra 605 only has a 30W power supply. Some of the bigger models have over 300W max power. Actua

Re: working xorg.conf i promised

2007-07-30 Thread Brad Boyer
ave an entry for the mode your video is currently using. Could you pass along the error messages from the X server? I hope we could just construct a mode line that could be added to your config file to get it working. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: m68k toolchain status?

2007-07-30 Thread Brad Boyer
copy or hints on how to find it? I'm worried that the current ABI isn't really flexible enough to do TLS in a proper fashion. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Recommendations for trying etch-m68k

2007-07-13 Thread Brad Boyer
input. Take a look at this URL: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes It's written by the powerpc port team, but the story is similar. The ppc team kept more up to date on the kernel, so they ran into this issue in the upgrade to woody rather than for etch. Brad Boyer [EM

Re: mouseemu

2007-07-12 Thread Brad Boyer
ould be invalid. However, it looks like CONFIG_INPUT_MISC is off by default and CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT depends on that configuration option. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: working xorg.conf i promised

2007-07-11 Thread Brad Boyer
t the sarge systems I'm still using all appear to come with XFree86 4.3. I'm not sure x.org even existed when woody was released. It's pretty old by now. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: kernel 2.6.21.5 compiles

2007-06-18 Thread Brad Boyer
ime to fix it. > SCSI sometimes fails on probe, sometimes not. There are some known issues, but knowing which hardware might help. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/2] Zorro modalias support

2007-06-10 Thread Brad Boyer
pport to the macio bus type for non-PCI models to get that. I just got distracted by the request to fix binutils and friends for TLS. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: working xorg.conf i promised

2007-06-05 Thread Brad Boyer
es. The only full native driver we have for an m68k Mac is valkyrie (Q630) since this hardware is also present in some PowerMac models. Writing better video drivers is honestly not a high priority for most people involved, but if you're interested in it there are people here who could provide advi

Re: working xorg.conf i promised

2007-06-01 Thread Brad Boyer
would appear that the kernel uses the regular math-emu code on the 68LC040, and only uses the fpsp040 code on a full 68040. This could easily explain the error. I haven't seen it myself, but I'm pretty sure I remember the bad mask revisions causing bus errors for the software FPU problem.

Re: TLS support [was Re: Unidentified subject!]

2007-05-21 Thread Brad Boyer
as well? I'd like to avoid following in the footsteps of the i386 style support particularly because it does require more extensive kernel support than most of the other architectures. I'm still looking over the documentation and the implementation details of the other architectures, but I&

Re: TLS support [was Re: Unidentified subject!]

2007-05-18 Thread Brad Boyer
. Is this the document? http://people.redhat.com/drepper/tls.pdf It does seem to have quite a bit of technical detail. I'll look at it in more depth a little later. Thank you for the pointer. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: TLS support [was Re: Unidentified subject!]

2007-05-18 Thread Brad Boyer
ch package that need to be fixed, not just whatever is current from upstream. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re:

2007-05-13 Thread Brad Boyer
n trying to get that support working? It looks like the hades-pci code is unfinished. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re:

2007-05-12 Thread Brad Boyer
platforms. I suspect that this driver isn't even built in the other configurations, since it requires ISA || EISA || PCI. > And I don't know if that is a l-m68k problem or a l-image problem. If the > atari or mac images build, I guess it is an m68k problem. I will see that in > a

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