Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:21:50PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Ben Hutchings dixit: > > >As m68k is not a release architecture, I don't care much what goes > >in debian/config/m68k (well, it had better not break gencontrol.py). > >Whatever the m68k porters come up with is fine. > > OK, thanks

Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ben Hutchings dixit: >As m68k is not a release architecture, I don't care much what goes >in debian/config/m68k (well, it had better not break gencontrol.py). >Whatever the m68k porters come up with is fine. OK, thanks. I’d kinda like to have it somewhat in sync with the rest of Debian of course,

Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:29:11PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: > > >Kernel images fail to boot on Atari if they're bigger than 4 MiB. > > OK, thanks. What about the others (amiga, bvme*, mac, two mvme*)? > > Who’s in charge of the Debian kernel configs (IIRC Stephen

Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:06:54PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Thorsten, > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > ARAnyM cannot boot the latest kernel images (still compiling, > > but I copied out vmlinux.gz): > > > > tglase@tglase:~/stuff/aranym/vm2 $ ./run > > R

Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: >Kernel images fail to boot on Atari if they're bigger than 4 MiB. OK, thanks. What about the others (amiga, bvme*, mac, two mvme*)? Who’s in charge of the Debian kernel configs (IIRC Stephen Marenka and Wouter Verhelst)? Or otherwise, could the Debian Linux kernel team

Re: linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Thorsten, On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > ARAnyM cannot boot the latest kernel images (still compiling, > but I copied out vmlinux.gz): > > tglase@tglase:~/stuff/aranym/vm2 $ ./run > Running Ara2 on X11: :2 > ARAnyM 0.9.15 > Using config file: 'aranym.config.x11' > Co

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
On 2013-05-13 14:38, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> Could be a kernel issue with '060s. > Thats what I want to hear! And now that our kernel hacker is listening, what > can we do to track this down and fix it? If there are no problems with older kernels, you can try to bisect it. Ingo, what

linux 3.8.12-1 (atari flavour) does not boot

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi all, ARAnyM cannot boot the latest kernel images (still compiling, but I copied out vmlinux.gz): tglase@tglase:~/stuff/aranym/vm2 $ ./run Running Ara2 on X11: :2 ARAnyM 0.9.15 Using config file: 'aranym.config.x11' Could not open joystick 0 ARAnyM RTC Timer: /dev/rtc: Permission denied ARAnyM

Re: ARAnyM speed

2013-05-13 Thread Britt Dodd
I'm sorry. I was a little confused and jumped the gun on answering your questions. I totally understand fixing processes to a specific CPU in that scenerio. If you type in your CPU model i7 950 an Intel link called Intel Arc will give you a bunch of the information I asked about like hyperthreading

Re: ARAnyM speed

2013-05-13 Thread Britton Dodd
I don't mean to be a bother -- I am sincerely interested in figuring out this puzzle. I have a hunch but I'd like to verify a couple of things first --- how many VMs are you running? Thanks, Britt On May 11, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Hi *, > > I’ve upgraded my desktop at wor

Re: ARAnyM speed

2013-05-13 Thread Britton Dodd
Hello, What virtualization subsystem are you running? I have a i7 920 at home and it's pretty fast. The only thing I can think of is maybe your running into a scenario where your VMs are pinned to threads that share the same CPU Core, and that might be inducing a bottle-neck somewhere. Just

Re: ARAnyM speed

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Britton Dodd dixit: >What virtualization subsystem are you running? I have a i7 920 at home >and it's pretty fast. ARAnyM on bare metal Debian/i386. >The only thing I can think of is maybe your running into a scenario >where your VMs are pinned to threads that share the same CPU Core, and >that

Re: ARAnyM speed

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Britton Dodd dixit: >I have a hunch but I'd like to verify a couple of things first --- how >many VMs are you running? One, then two, then four. Doesn't make a change, even the very first one had about half speed. Although I think I only switched governors after booting it. Maybe the first core w

Re: changing the java default to java7, and dropping java support for some architectures

2013-05-13 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: > It's time to change the Java default to java7, and to drop java support on > architectures with non-working java7. Just asking as a loongson-2f user, :-) What makes java7 not to work on those architectures? Building issues? > ... > So the

Re: changing the java default to java7, and dropping java support for some architectures

2013-05-13 Thread James Page
Hey Matthias On 06/05/13 15:22, Matthias Klose wrote: It's time to change the Java default to java7, and to drop java support on architectures with non-working java7. +1 Patches for the transition to Java7 should be available in the BTS, mostly submitted by James Page. Some may be still lur

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> Is it easy to trigger? > > No, unfortunately(?) not. I have the impression it happens more often when > the load is high (or maybe when swap is used), but I don't have any proof > for that. Sometimes every buildd-[uploader|watcher] f

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: >I'm afraid I can't let high-profile debian-m68k hackers play dangerous sports. Hahaha! You’re lucky, too many people are missing anyway. Christian T. Steigies dixit: >Well, I had this example last week where during two builds different test >cases failed, and the th

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 01:05:39PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Christian T. Steigies > wrote: > >> > Well, I had this example last week where during two builds different test > >> > cases failed, and the third build succeeded. If this is the hardware, > >

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> > Well, I had this example last week where during two builds different test >> > cases failed, and the third build succeeded. If this is the hardware, what >> > should I do, reseat the CPU? I think Michael gave me a spare 060 some t

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:26:13PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Christian T. Steigies > wrote: > >> Even GCC???s own ICE messages say so. It retries the compilation if it > >> fails due to an ICE, automatically, and if it does _not_ fail again, > >> the har

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> Even GCC???s own ICE messages say so. It retries the compilation if it >> fails due to an ICE, automatically, and if it does _not_ fail again, >> the hardware is at fault. (Which may not necessarily be a problem Or the OS. >> with

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:43:00AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Christian T. Steigies dixit: > > >I know it is marked, but kullervo was idling and I was hoping that maybe a > >native build could get rid of some of the ICEs and segfaults. You are not > > It won???t. I???ve seen these issues whi

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Can only get better. I hope the rain stops, we (cow-orkers) wanted > to play football after work… I'm sorry, Thorsten. I'm afraid I can't let high-profile debian-m68k hackers play dangerous sports. Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit: >I know it is marked, but kullervo was idling and I was hoping that maybe a >native build could get rid of some of the ICEs and segfaults. You are not It won’t. I’ve seen these issues while *running* the mksh testsuite on it, which is totally separate from anything GC

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:42:49AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Christian T. Steigies dixit: > > >Thorsten mentioned something about a new toolchain which causes problems > >with the buildds. I think I got that... kullervo could not install debhelper > >because of libffi5, where it really wante

Re: buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit: >Thorsten mentioned something about a new toolchain which causes problems >with the buildds. I think I got that... kullervo could not install debhelper >because of libffi5, where it really wanted libffi6. After installing about Should be done now, as I’m uploading gli

buildds screwed?

2013-05-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, Thorsten mentioned something about a new toolchain which causes problems with the buildds. I think I got that... kullervo could not install debhelper because of libffi5, where it really wanted libffi6. After installing about 20 packages in the host system, I have the new debhelper, but in the b