Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hi, late to the party again - my old e-mail system broke down once more... > > > After going to a conference, I'm usually filled with ideas, and FOSDEM > > > is no different in that regard. Also, it was nice to finally meet cts :-) > > > > Hehe... I met him the first time lately after 7 years als

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Casadevall
CF doesn't strictly have to be a separate port; it simply needs separate binaries. From a tool chain perspective, coldfire is identical, its identified as m68k-linux-gnu with the expectation of the binutils target. Unless a failure to build is triggered by a binutils bug, m68k and coldfire should b

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > Getting the coldfire port working would be nice, yes... I believe that > > would bring in fresh blood and a general boost for debian-68k/cf... > > We had a discussion with Aurelien, Geert and Sven about coldfire. The > consensus was that w

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:33:53PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 08:44:05PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > After going to a conference, I'm usually filled with ideas, and FOSDEM > > is no different in that regard. Also, it was nice to finally meet cts :-) > > Hehe

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:51:48PM -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > I'm suprised that network I/O was that slow; using distcc (especially > > with -j2 options passed to dpkg-buildpackage) have drastically sped up > > builds; the files themselves a

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:51:48PM -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > I'm suprised that network I/O was that slow; using distcc (especially > with -j2 options passed to dpkg-buildpackage) have drastically sped up > builds; the files themselves are small, usually a few kilobytes round > trip. Then a

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Casadevall
I'm suprised that network I/O was that slow; using distcc (especially with -j2 options passed to dpkg-buildpackage) have drastically sped up builds; the files themselves are small, usually a few kilobytes round trip. Then again, the files are going through tap0 on my machines so YMMV. Michael On

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Kolbjørn Barmen
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Finn Thain wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > > > > I used distcc for a while, with cross-builder on my PC, but since I got > > the 060 card it didnt make much sense, the network card is too slow. > > If the network card is not consuming CPU (i.

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Finn Thain
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > I used distcc for a while, with cross-builder on my PC, but since I got > the 060 card it didnt make much sense, the network card is too slow. If the network card is not consuming CPU (i.e. it does DMA) then parallel make still has to be faster

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Kolbjørn Barmen
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:48:27PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > > > There was somewhen someone that used one of my m68ks for a gentoo > > > port or such... > > Could it have been Zach Lowry? > > No, it was Michael Frysinger. Aha, Vapier/Spa

Re: Introductions, thoughts and observations ...

2008-02-25 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:14:18PM +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > So, is there still a chance to make release arch status for Lenny, or have > we missed the official eligibilty boat? We can't be a release arch until we have TLS (per Release Managers). Peace, Stephen -- Stephen R. Marenka If

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:48:27PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > There was somewhen someone that used one of my m68ks for a gentoo port > > or such... > Could it have been Zach Lowry? No, it was Michael Frysinger. > I was briefly in contact with him, before he decided to move onto some > s

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Kolbjørn Barmen
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:06:47PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > > > I think that also some skype meetings from time to time (or at least IRC > > > ones) minght be of help. > > I've always missed having a linux-m68k hangout on IRC. Since I'm mai

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 08:44:05PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > After going to a conference, I'm usually filled with ideas, and FOSDEM > is no different in that regard. Also, it was nice to finally meet cts :-) Hehe... I met him the first time lately after 7 years also... ;) > As I mentioned

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Finn Thain
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > As I mentioned on this list before, I've been thinking it might be good > to hold a real-life meeting somewhere to discuss the future of the m68k > port; not just for Debian/m68k people, but for all Linux/m68k people > who're interested. Such a me

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:06:47PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote: > > I think that also some skype meetings from time to time (or at least IRC > > ones) minght be of help. > I've always missed having a linux-m68k hangout on IRC. Since I'm mainly > doing gentoo, I ended up on #gentoo-embedded (freen

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Kolbjørn Barmen
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Riccardo wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday, February 24, 2008, at 08:44 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Thoughts? > > I think that also some skype meetings from time to time (or at least IRC > ones) minght be of help. I've always missed having a linux-m68k hangout on IRC. Since

Re: Introductions, thoughts and observations ...

2008-02-25 Thread Finn Thain
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > Hello all, > I'm new to this list, but I've recently started working on the m68k port > by hosting two buildds (hosted in Aranym, with distcc, and some scripts > to offload a lot of the heavy processing work to the more powerful host > machin

Re: FOSDEM thoughts

2008-02-25 Thread Riccardo
Hi, On Sunday, February 24, 2008, at 08:44 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Thoughts? I think that also some skype meetings from time to time (or at least IRC ones) minght be of help. Sure, not te big idea you had in mind, but still useful to coordinate work and exchange ideas in a more intera