Re: Hardware for Debian-68k

2007-03-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:28:25AM +1100, Finn Thain wrote: > What kernel is jazz running? The 2.2 from sarge. > What kind of stability issues does the machine have? panics under load. I once also had kswapd segfault (see http://grep.be/blog/en/computer/debian/m68k/jazz_oops) > Does there exist

Re: Hardware for Debian-68k

2007-03-13 Thread Finn Thain
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:58:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > ... > > * Jazz is having stability issues with the kernel (it's a quadra 950, > > dunno whether that's expected?) I can't say I've tested that model. (I bought a 950 logic board on

Re: Hardware for Debian-68k

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:58:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:54:17PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Personnally I would favor a location where it can serve as > > a distcc server for real m68k buildds. > > There *might* be some space in the room in our office, wh

Re: emulation has fewer bugs than certain hardware

2007-03-13 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:19:25AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > Hmmm, sort of... > > http://unstable.buildd.net/index-m68k.html shows some rough build time > > estimation for all packages in needs-build: > Well, what we'd need is twofold: a way to query that database for the > estimated build

Re: emulation has fewer bugs than certain hardware

2007-03-13 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > Ideally we'd have a massively parallel cluster of Amigas, Macs and Ataris > > to do that. Right now, we'd be more than happy if additional machines > > (real or emulated) could take up some of the backlog at times. We'd need > > to prevent an emulated system attempting to build a CPU intensive

Re: emulation has fewer bugs than certain hardware

2007-03-13 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 08:44:18AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > It is probably useful to compile things on a wide range of hardware in > > order to look for driver and hardware problems. That said, finding > > problems that are due to hardware failure are probably less useful. It > > is nice

Re: emulation has fewer bugs than certain hardware

2007-03-13 Thread Petr Stehlik
Michael Schmitz wrote: (real or emulated) could take up some of the backlog at times. We'd need to prevent an emulated system attempting to build a CPU intensive package, I'd say that it's exactly the other way round - I personally would let ARAnyM pick up the bigger/more resource hungry packa

Re: emulation has fewer bugs than certain hardware

2007-03-13 Thread Michael Schmitz
> Some interesting points: > - 68k emulation has been going on for more than 10 years. Far more than that (10 years ago the 68k Macs were already being replaced by PPC Macs, and a 68k Mac emulator was available for some time then (not to mention Apple's own efforts ) > - http://www-gatago.com/lin