Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:53:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You did not ask Roman to provide examples of "fixes are just stuck in the > > BTS", you picked your own bug and then complains it is not a good example > > ? Is not that non-sense ?

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You did not ask Roman to provide examples of "fixes are just stuck in the > BTS", you picked your own bug and then complains it is not a good example > ? Is not that non-sense ? No, what I did was I asked how his claim relates to a particular bug in a

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:55:02PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > It's with some regret that I have to confirm that m68k is not going to be a > release architecture for etch. > We have also asked about removing m68k from testing since it is not > currently a release candidate; Anthony Towns has i

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:39:26PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:57:00PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:48:32PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > > > As a result, the bts is already ignoring m68k in calculating a bug's > > > > applicability for the

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:57:00PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:48:32PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > > > As a result, the bts is already ignoring m68k in calculating a bug's > > > > applicability for the testing distribution, at the release team

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > was your initial phrase 'Please > > let the release team know how we can be of assistance to you in setting > > and meeting goals for an m68k release' just a hollow phrase... > > I never said

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:20:56PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > >> Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > was your initial phrase 'Please > let the release team know how we can be of assistance to you in setting > and meeting goals for an m68k release' just a hollow phrase... I never said anything of the kind. If the m68k team can make the port happen wit

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > But you attempted to trick people, by pretending that the patch was > already there before my email. You wanted to make me look bad, as if > I was bringing up an example where there was a patch in the bug-log. > Since your claim is that m68k

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:48:32PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > buildds: 19 > > There are 19 buildds actively uploading packages for m68k (Aug 20 to > > present). This indicates that individual buildds are roughly an order of > > mag

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Your message was deliberately misleading, designed to suggest that >> there had been a fix in for a while (even if "not that old yet"), when >> in fact, the patch was posted *after* my message. > > What the hell is your problem? Yes, the patch is _one_ d

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > You claimed that it's a bad idea to drop m68k as a release candidate, > because the only way bugs will get fixed is if maintainers are forced > to include patches. I didn't say anything about "forcing", that's your conclusion. > In fact, the

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:57:00PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:48:32PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > > As a result, the bts is already ignoring m68k in calculating a bug's > > > applicability for the testing distribution, at the release team's request. > > > > As someon

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> > I'm not sure what you intent with this question. The patch is not that >> > old yet, but it's there: >> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326905 >> >> Wow, that's rich. The patch w

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I'm not sure what you intent with this question. The patch is not that > > old yet, but it's there: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326905 > > Wow, that's rich. The patch was posted to the bug log all of THIRTY > MINU

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in >> > many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in > > many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have > > to bug people to get them to release a

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:48:32PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > As a result, the bts is already ignoring m68k in calculating a bug's > > applicability for the testing distribution, at the release team's request. > > As someone who has recently looked at and fixed many problems, I must say > the

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in > many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have > to bug people to get them to release a fixed package. Does this explain why guile-1.6 is still not com

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I suggest you read section 5.10 of the developers reference, and do > porter/non-maintainer source uploads if you think it's holding up things > and the maintainer isn't very responsive. I'm not a Debian developer, I'm "only" a user, who'd like to su

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > buildds: 19 > There are 19 buildds actively uploading packages for m68k (Aug 20 to > present). This indicates that individual buildds are roughly an order of > magnitude slower than those for other architectures, which makes m68k a > limit

Re: Fwd: linux-image-2.6-17-mac tries

2006-10-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > Geert: can you send me the kernel binary that only did a black screen for > > you? I'd like to test it on the hardware itself... > > Bummer, I don't have it anymore. And my 2.6.19-rc2 tree doesn't comp

Re: Fwd: linux-image-2.6-17-mac tries

2006-10-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Geert: can you send me the kernel binary that only did a black screen for > you? I'd like to test it on the hardware itself... Bummer, I don't have it anymore. And my 2.6.19-rc2 tree doesn't compile yet for Atari. I'll see whether I can get it `workin

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Log for given-back build of clamav_0.84-2.sarge.11 (dist=stable-security)]

2006-10-16 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
/m68k 85 Build started at 20061016-1149 ** Checking available source versions... Checking available source versions... Can't find source for clamav_0.84-2.sarge.11 (only different version(s) 0.84-2.sarge.10 found) Giving

Re: [PATCH] m68k Atari: experimental atafb support

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> Michael> Current state of atafb follows inlined (vger ate the last > Michael> BASE64 attachment, sorry). Replaces my previous patch, now > Michael> supports monochrome, 16 and 256 bit VGA mode. Please test. > > "Signed-off-by: " please or it can't go upstream. If things don't > start propaga

Re: Fwd: linux-image-2.6-17-mac tries

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > I'm not sure if it is still the case, but in the copy of the tree I > > have handy, atari_scsi uses a local copy of NCR5380.c rather than > > Sure, but once upon a time, that local copy was derived from NCR5380.c and > the business end of the logic didn't change. > > > the shared copy being use

D-I RC1 - release planning - soft freeze for changes in SVN

2006-10-16 Thread Frans Pop
Things are finally starting to come together for RC1. - We've found a good work-around for the bug in g-i where selected lines in multi-select lists would not be shown. We need new versions of some gtk packages for that, but these have now been uploaded. Thanks especially to Loïc Minier for h

Re: benchmark between aranym and crest

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > it just throws random kernel panics from the interrupt handler, > > and the soft lockup watchdog. Any ideas on this? > > No idea, doesn't happen to me. I am still using kernel 2.4.27 but I > almost started compiling 2.4.33 with the eth patch for Bill as I can't > believe that the gcc ICE is ara

Re: [buildd] java-gcj-compat

2006-10-16 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:15:54PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > It seems as if someone did just that... ;) > Not according to this: > http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?a=m68k&buildd=buildd_m68k-arrakis I just took a look at http://unstable.buildd.net/buildd/m68k_stats.pn

Re: [buildd] java-gcj-compat

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > > BTW could someone please take care of the packages stuck on arrakis > > (especially apache2)? > > It seems as if someone did just that... ;) Not according to this: http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?a=m68k&buildd=bui

Re: benchmark between aranym and crest

2006-10-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > we really need Petr's disk access speedups ... > > > > BTW, I have just tried the tar zxf test on ramdisk (to eliminate the IDE > > bottleneck) and it finished in 43 seconds (Athlon XP 2500+ = 1833 MHz). > > Compare with 26 seconds on crest... > >

Re: benchmark between aranym and crest

2006-10-16 Thread Petr Stehlik
Michael Schmitz wrote: BTW: something seems utterly broken in the current testing (-3) aranym package. I seem to recall you mentioned something went wrong there already; Bill found that current sid with its gcc-4.1.1-14 does not compile anything due to ICE. But that shouldn't be related to -3

Re: benchmark between aranym and crest

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > we really need Petr's disk access speedups ... > > BTW, I have just tried the tar zxf test on ramdisk (to eliminate the IDE > bottleneck) and it finished in 43 seconds (Athlon XP 2500+ = 1833 MHz). > Compare with 26 seconds on crest... BTW: something seems utterly broken in the current testing

Re: [buildd] java-gcj-compat

2006-10-16 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:02:01PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > BTW could someone please take care of the packages stuck on arrakis > (especially apache2)? It seems as if someone did just that... ;) Anyway, there are still 245 packages listed as building (that was 351 just about an hour ago, th

Re: [buildd] java-gcj-compat

2006-10-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > java-gcj-compat just failed, although gcj-4.1 installs fine on my machine. > > Could someone please check what's going on and perhaps build it manually. > > xulrunner is waiting for it and way too much is waiting on this. > > Any special requir

Re: [buildd] java-gcj-compat

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> java-gcj-compat just failed, although gcj-4.1 installs fine on my machine. > Could someone please check what's going on and perhaps build it manually. > xulrunner is waiting for it and way too much is waiting on this. Any special requirements for this (lots of RAM, fast machine)?? Micha