Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, martin f krafft wrote: > "musical busses"! Cinco! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 06:23, martin f krafft wrote: Rather, I think we must ensure an inclusive programme, and a default expectation that everyone joins — and assume/communicate that in everything we do. Indeed. The data we *do* have is from a survey in 2011, http://www.opensurveys.org/viewresults.php

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 11:19, Richard Hartmann wrote: Forcing people to switch buses every time would increase intermingling even more. I think you can probably achieve this well enough simply by not forcing people to take the same bus as they started on. (Which also saves time and stress, compared

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Richard Hartmann [2014-04-02 12:19 +0200]: > Forcing people to switch buses every time would increase intermingling even > more. "musical busses"! -- .''`. martin f. krafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf14: Portland, OR, USA: http://debconf14.debconf.org "i w

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Not immediately adjacent, no. The rough plan is to take buses between > various stops in the gorge, with lunch outdoors as a group at a nearby > state > park. I'll let Patty speak to the details. > That sounds like a cheap way to fill a

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:48:42AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: > That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied > > by waterfalls. > I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1]. > Out of interest: How ne

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied > by waterfalls. > I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1]. Out of interest: How near is this to other hiking destinations/activities and a large-ish open s

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:23 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > To add to that: I've heard in the past that "DebConf is not the > place where everyone is keen to go into nature or engage in physical > activity". Let's not think like that. Obviously, not everyone will > join, and we do have people with

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz [2014-04-02 03:13 +0200]: > Yeeh! Daytrip is awesome, but sometimes it takes so much energy > from the orga team, so much money, so much etc etc... Let's do > simple, Portland seems to be a wonderful place to explore in > a cheap way, I think just a nice walk and a

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:14:45PM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that > > it > > doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid b

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Patty Langasek
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that it > doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid bus fares > ourselves (as attendees) in the past and can do that again and then we j