Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, martin f krafft wrote: > "musical busses"! Cinco! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 06:23, martin f krafft wrote: Rather, I think we must ensure an inclusive programme, and a default expectation that everyone joins — and assume/communicate that in everything we do. Indeed. The data we *do* have is from a survey in 2011, http://www.opensurveys.org/viewresults.php

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-04-02 11:19, Richard Hartmann wrote: Forcing people to switch buses every time would increase intermingling even more. I think you can probably achieve this well enough simply by not forcing people to take the same bus as they started on. (Which also saves time and stress, compared

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Richard Hartmann [2014-04-02 12:19 +0200]: > Forcing people to switch buses every time would increase intermingling even > more. "musical busses"! -- .''`. martin f. krafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf14: Portland, OR, USA: http://debconf14.debconf.org "i w

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-02 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Not immediately adjacent, no. The rough plan is to take buses between > various stops in the gorge, with lunch outdoors as a group at a nearby > state > park. I'll let Patty speak to the details. > That sounds like a cheap way to fill a

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:48:42AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: > That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied > > by waterfalls. > I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1]. > Out of interest: How ne

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied > by waterfalls. > I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1]. Out of interest: How near is this to other hiking destinations/activities and a large-ish open s

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:23 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > To add to that: I've heard in the past that "DebConf is not the > place where everyone is keen to go into nature or engage in physical > activity". Let's not think like that. Obviously, not everyone will > join, and we do have people with

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz [2014-04-02 03:13 +0200]: > Yeeh! Daytrip is awesome, but sometimes it takes so much energy > from the orga team, so much money, so much etc etc... Let's do > simple, Portland seems to be a wonderful place to explore in > a cheap way, I think just a nice walk and a

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:14:45PM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that > > it > > doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid b

Re: [Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Patty Langasek
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that it > doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid bus fares > ourselves (as attendees) in the past and can do that again and then we j

[Debconf-team] daytrip + budget (Re: Updated budget for DC14)

2014-04-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, from a budget point of view, the daytrip can easily be made in a way that it doesnt cost the organizers any (additional) money. We've paid bus fares ourselves (as attendees) in the past and can do that again and then we just go to some nice place in the countryside and have a picknick there