2008/4/30, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That team,
> in this thread represented by Ana and me, already asked for an event
> submission so we can go and do our work. As long as we don't get that we
> can't decide. So please - don't reply to the list, fill in an event
> submission. :)
I
On 11370 March 1977, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
[Long stuff dropped]
As interesting this thread is - the debconf-team list is *not* the place for it.
First - it is not the debconf-team list who has the final decision about
talk accept/deny, that task is given to the papers team. That team,
in thi
Hello Mark et all,
[long mail removed]
In the talks committee, we are open to review an interest event about
ubuntu in debconf (in my very personal opinion, a BOF would be a good idea).
Ignoring the facts of how well or bad ubuntu and debian collaborated in
the past and that the time for submit
Dear Mark,
you raise a couple of points to which I would like to reply, but
they have nothing to do anymore with debconf-team. I urge you to
bring these up on a mailing list instead
Since it is not my intention to slam them down, I'd be happy to let
my replies be read over by others to make sure
> How is Ubuntu important to Debian? I am not claiming it isn't, or
> questioning it, but genuinly interested in your take on this.
>
First, all of Debian's derivatives are important to Debian. All of
Ubuntu's derivatives are important to Ubuntu (and hence Debian too :-))
and we go to quite a
Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> I would ask the lead contributors to Ubuntu, especially those who are
> also DD's, to consolidate their best ideas for me to present. I don't
> really want to ask them to do that work if there isn't the opportunity
> to present it in a compelling way, to Debian as a whole
Hi,
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 00:41 +0400, martin f krafft wrote:
> All of this email is *my* point of view and does not represent the
> debconf team's view or has been endorsed by anyone else.
It's nice to know it and have this point clear.
> That said, this is the last email I will send on the sub
On 11363 March 1977, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> I would ask you to consider the exception on the basis that Ubuntu is
> important to Debian, not to judge the specifics of the talk in
> advance.
While thats all fine and stuff - the papers committee still doesn't see
a submitted event proposal from
Because I'm generally nosey and curious and well, always feel the need to
voice my opinion, please forgive my intrusion into this. I'm only trying to
help!
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:41:09AM +0400, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.22.2307 +0400]:
All of this email is *my* point of view and does not represent the
debconf team's view or has been endorsed by anyone else.
That said, this is the last email I will send on the subject on this
list, because it might be taken by some as a personal issue. I'd
like to say it isn't. I'd like to say th
martin f krafft wrote:
My request isn't driven by a specific set of ideas, but driven by
my sense that this sort of engagement would greatly help to
improve the relationship, which in turn would be very positive
for Debian.
The reason I keep asking is because it's not the first time
I he
Dear Mark,
also sprach Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.22.0821 +0200]:
>I haven't written the talk yet.
... but you surely know the gist of what you want to talk about.
> My request isn't driven by a specific set of ideas, but driven by
> my sense that this sort of engagement wou
martin f krafft wrote:
What are the areas of activity where it would be valuable to expand
the collaboration? And what are some of the ideas for better
processes and interactions to improve collaboration?
I haven't written the talk yet.
My request isn't driven by a specific set of ideas, but
also sprach Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.22.0137 +0200]:
> In my initial request on this thread I articulated the scope of the
> talk, which would be to address:
>
> - current status on Ubuntu and Debian interaction, from our perspective
> - areas of activity where it would be
martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.21.1715 +0200]:
>
>> But money *does* buy access at DebConf. In a limited form, our sponsor
>> pack shows what, but it does do so.
>>
>
> ... provided the content fits with the general conference agenda.
>
> Ple
Hi,
On Saturday 19 April 2008 19:54, Moray Allan wrote:
> Some other conferences tend to have keynotes to start each day, but if
> we did that Debian types would probably sleep through them -- maybe the
> DebConf equivalent slot would be just after lunch?
I like the idea of daily keynotes (and po
also sprach Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.21.1715 +0200]:
> But money *does* buy access at DebConf. In a limited form, our sponsor
> pack shows what, but it does do so.
... provided the content fits with the general conference agenda.
Please let us know what you want to talk about, M
On 11362 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Point taken, I just added the Event Type "Keynote", so one can make sure
> such events get something special in schedule.
> *Of* course that leaves us with the timing problem. While usual
> conferences do their keynotes at the beginning of the day - I w
On 11362 March 1977, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> It's not clear from the web site if these talks are a keynote (like the
> DPL presentations), or if they are standard talks that might be anywhere
> in the schedule, at the same time as other talks. I'd ask, if you agree
> this is important, that you
Margarita Manterola wrote:
Hi Mark and all!
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The reason I would like to ask for a keynote is straightforward - the
idea of collaboration between Debian and its derivatives is important
for all of Debian, and for
Hi Mark and all!
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason I would like to ask for a keynote is straightforward - the
> idea of collaboration between Debian and its derivatives is important
> for all of Debian, and for all derivatives.
What you
Le vendredi 18 avril 2008 à 14:03 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit :
> The reason I would like to ask for a keynote is straightforward - the
> idea of collaboration between Debian and its derivatives is important
> for all of Debian, and for all derivatives. I would like the opportunity
> to art
also sprach Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.18.1503 +0200]:
> The reason I would like to ask for a keynote is straightforward
> - the idea of collaboration between Debian and its derivatives is
> important for all of Debian, and for all derivatives. I would like
> the opportunity to
Hi Joerg & Debconf team
I'm writing with an unusual request, and hope you will consider it
favorably.
The relationship between Debian and Ubuntu is an important one for both
projects. Debian defines the universe within which its derivatives live,
but derivatives like Ubuntu define the experien
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