Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:37AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > Hi Pablo, > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:49:03AM -0400, Pablo Duboue wrote: > That is great effort indeed, but as I pointed out to Clint earlier today, many > of those are cold-calls without any reason to believe that the target compa

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:20:48AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Pablo Duboue dijo [Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:49:03AM -0400]: > > * The cost to the project of $tourist is just (some) money but the cost of > > missing new blood is huge, so better err on the side of losing money rather > > than mind-sh

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 02:06:28PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > - Edit the current reconfirmation email to sai > > - We can't promise you sponsorship yet > > - Please fill in travel -> debian work so that we can review stuff

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:00:13PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > Jimmy, I have sent you privately the information Richard was talking about, > we are talking here about more than a 10 % of sponsored people. It is not > reasonable. In my mail I tried to be clear that I am still ok with asking people

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:31:33PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 03:20:35AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > Ana has also been helping out some today, and identified about 27 of > > ~200 sponsored attendees whom she could find no sign of free software > > community related

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi! I was also asked to add some opinion to this topic, as former DC orga. I think Pablo made some good point and I agree completely with what Marga said. I want to stress that asking people to work in exchange of the sponsorship was a great idea, as it offered a good way to the newcomers to know

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 03:20:35AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > Ana has also been helping out some today, and identified about 27 of > ~200 sponsored attendees whom she could find no sign of free software > community related work on the internet - and yes, this is being very > broad. She also con

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 1. Juni 2010, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On IRC, Joerg Jaspert, Safir Secerovic, and Steve McIntyre all seemed to > share my belief that we could raise sufficient funds over the upcoming two > months with sufficient effort and that my proposal was reasonable. I concur. And I have

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Margarita Manterola
A small reply to myself: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Now, it looks like the amount of people in this situation in NYC is > similar, only that the cost per person is almost double what we had > over here (350 USD vs 650 USD), so I can understand that allowing 27 >

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi! So, I was asked to state my opinion on this matter, as a previous DC Organizer and all. In Argentina, we didn't have too many $tourists registering from outside, due to the long distance flights and all. But to avoid $tourists from .ar, what I did was review every non-maintainer from .ar tha

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:37AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > reconfirms timely, shows up, optionally modified by the previous paragraph; > (2) > not requiring us to do a second email between now and the reconfirmation > deadline, which would take massive mental energy away from things like

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-06-01 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
Hi Pablo, On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:49:03AM -0400, Pablo Duboue wrote: > I wholeheartedly agree with the above paragraph. But that still doesn't > address at least 10-20 people I have peeked on the registration emails which > are not involved in the project and are clearly taking advantage of o

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-05-31 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Pablo Duboue dijo [Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:49:03AM -0400]: > > (yes this > > includes about $20k from Debian), > > aside from the 70k we already got from the past DebConf. That speaks of a > DebConf that is spending itself outside of reasonable bounds. Although this is completely true... > > w

Re: [Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-05-31 Thread Pablo Duboue
On Monday, May 31, 2010, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 02:06:28PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > - Edit the current reconfirmation email to sai > > > > - We can't promise you sponsorship yet > > - Please fill in travel -> debian work so that we can review stuff > > - Reco

[Debconf-team] My thoughts on reconfirmation, fundraising, etc

2010-05-31 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 02:06:28PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > - Edit the current reconfirmation email to sai > - We can't promise you sponsorship yet > - Please fill in travel -> debian work so that we can review stuff > - Reconfirm if you can, please fill in all your data anyway. > - Yo