Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-06-04 Thread Edgar Becerra
Hi Everyone! The wiki has a bunch of travel experience, and this seems relevant to me. Why is it a bad idea to include some opinions or info on this? I have been given the same bs (conferences being equated to work) in the UK. I personally recomend sticking to a "I'm on vacation" routine. @Holge

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-07 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 05/06/2017 01:10 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:37:41PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> [...] But what does a border guard say when their children ask what they >> did today? > "I protected our country." > > Canada should just build a wall and make US pay for it, trust me

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 02:03:42PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 03/05/17 12:21, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > If I understand the story correctly, he was (ab)using a tourist visa for > > living in the US. > > Did you see any source that states it was a tourist visa? >... The story at the money

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the > news, It is one-sided information from someone asking for money, repeated in the news. > an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything, > unable

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 03/05/2017, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > Well anybody who is self employed, in the middle of changing jobs > between now and DebConf, recently graduated or otherwise doesn't fit the > definition of "normal" used by a bureaucrat could also have difficulty > answering those quest

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 06/05/17 13:10, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:37:41PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> [...] But what does a border guard say when their children ask >> what they did today? > > "I protected our country." > Ah, I wonder if these security professionals[1] would have said t

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
> While the wiki does share the official line, I *think* it would be > service if we can add Carl's experience to the visa page as well. I really don't feel like this is a good idea. I understand crossing borders and getting visas can be a PITA and sympathize, but we are neither a travel agency or

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 03/05/17 12:21, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the >> news, > > It is one-sided information from someone asking for money, > repeated in the news. > >> an Australian, no

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:37:41PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > [...] But what does a border guard say when their children ask what they > did today? "I protected our country." -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/05/17 19:49, Carl Karsten wrote: > Even though they have kicked me out twice (4 times if you include my 2nd > attempts a few hours later with more paperwork) I am pretty > compassionate about them. Assuming there is a point to their job, it > seems like a hard thing to do effectively. >

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
> I could only find one sentence about visas[1] on the web site You can find more informations about visas on our website here [1] and on the wiki [2]. [1]: https://debconf17.debconf.org/about/visiting-montreal/ [2]: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf17/Visa -- pollo signature.asc Descrip

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/05/17 18:02, Carl Karsten wrote: > I have plenty of fist hand experience with Canadian boarder guards. > > Summary: The less you say the better. You are attending a Linux > conference. the end. > > You are not "working" with or for it or anything that might sound like > work. "volun

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Carl Karsten
I have plenty of fist hand experience with Canadian boarder guards. Summary: The less you say the better. You are attending a Linux conference. the end. You are not "working" with or for it or anything that might sound like work. "volunteering" is work. If you hint that you might help out t

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 02/05/2017 09:58, Daniel Pocock wrote: > I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the > news, an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything, > unable to enter Canada due to an outbreak of bureaucracy. Well, he overstayed his US visa, even if it was just by a

Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/05/17 12:45, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: > On 02/05/2017 09:58, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the >> news, an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything, >> unable to enter Canada due to an outbreak of bureaucr

[Debconf-team] Canadian border problems

2017-05-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the news, an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything, unable to enter Canada due to an outbreak of bureaucracy. I'm not suggesting anybody should give money to this cause, but it makes me wonder if Australians are h