On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Richard Darst wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
>> There's a lot of work to be done to flesh out such a plan, obviously. If
>> there's support for this in principle, I would be willing to put some effort
>> in to help turn
Ana Guerrero wrote:
> We need to:
>
> - determine a very clear guideline about the process:
> - *who* can ask money,
> - *why* you can ask money
> - *how* much money you can ask (*).
- *when* you can ask for it (hopefully compatible with a range
of cheap ticket availability dates)
- *when
El Lun 23 Ago 2010, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver escribió:
> Flight pricing works in very strange ways. Booking as
> early as possible doesn't guarantee you the lowest price unfortunately...
At least in my country, only something very specific and wire can low the price
in time (e.g. a drop in fuel or
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> There's a lot of work to be done to flesh out such a plan, obviously. If
> there's support for this in principle, I would be willing to put some effort
> in to help turn this into something viable.
I'd say start filling out this p
Hi,
On Montag, 23. August 2010, Richard Darst wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 06:40:23PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/Registration is quite detailed
> > but I'm not sure if it's correct and how it went and I don't think
> > it's covering travel. Seeing as docum
Hi,
On Dienstag, 24. August 2010, Steve Langasek wrote:
> One thing that I haven't seen much broad recognition of in discussions
> around travel sponsorship is that, if we agree that spending money on
> last-minute tickets is not an efficient use of the sponsorship money,
> *maybe we should just n
On 2010-08-23 12:45:37 (+0200), Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (I totally agree this is about finding new ways / solutions...)
>
> On Sonntag, 22. August 2010, Wookey wrote:
> > I'm not sure exactly how this info will/should affect the process. I
> > guess the main thing is that people should at
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:45:37PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> (I totally agree this is about finding new ways / solutions...)
> On Sonntag, 22. August 2010, Wookey wrote:
> > I'm not sure exactly how this info will/should affect the process. I
> > guess the main thing is that people should at l
Hi MJ,
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, MJ Ray wrote:
>> In every debconf, the first goal has been being able to pay food and lodging,
>> and they if there is enought money, then give travel sponsorship.
>
> This is news to me! I think back when I applied, I applied for only
> travel sponsorshi
Ana Guerrero dijo [Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:47:46PM +0200]:
> (...)
> Traditionally, we have not known if we have money for travel sponsorship very
> close to debconf dates, so people has paid very expensive tickets. One of many
> complains was: if I would have known this at least 1 month ago I coul
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 06:40:23PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/Registration is quite detailed
> but I'm not sure if it's correct and how it went and I don't think
> it's covering travel. Seeing as documenting the guidelines is one
> of the points of this discussi
Hello,
Like Holger and Ana have said, these are all great ideas, and they
have all been mentioned at some time or another. We had stated a goal
of some of these things (multiple travel sponsorship rounds) before,
but because we don't have enough people to do it, it hasn't happened.
If you all wo
Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 05:52:06PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> >
> ...
>
> I think you are totally losing the point of this discussion and focusing
> too much in your particular problem 2 years ago.
No, it's an example. Just one example, but it's the one I know best,
unsurpris
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 05:52:06PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
>
...
I think you are totally losing the point of this discussion and focusing
too much in your particular problem 2 years ago.
If you want to understand better how things works, please take a look at
the mailing lists archives, meetings l
Ana Guerrero writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship
BoF: minutes"):
> And we still have to pay a lot of DebConf10 costs, leaving us probably with
> less than half that amount. (<5)
Ah. Unfortunately this shows the weakness of cash-based rather than
commitment accoun
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 02:22:18PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Philipp Kern writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship
> BoF: minutes"):
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:35:47PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > I think the right answer is to guess and cushion the shortfall and/o
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship
BoF: minutes"):
> the problem is, or rather was in previous years, that we never knew 3 months
> in advance, how much money we would have. This year, IIRC, we didnt know
> whether we had enough money to run the confer
Hi,
(I totally agree this is about finding new ways / solutions...)
On Sonntag, 22. August 2010, Wookey wrote:
> I'm not sure exactly how this info will/should affect the process. I
> guess the main thing is that people should at least know they will get
> the money 3 months in advance. If it's o
On 23/08/10 at 06:34 +1200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On su, 2010-08-22 at 14:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is,
> > if
> > you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
>
> Given that finding go
On su, 2010-08-22 at 14:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is, if
> you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
Given that finding good flight prices is hard, would it be worthwhile to
get a travel
Pablo Duboue wrote:
> (drdub) Following a discussion with Ana, the project might save quite
> a bit of money if buys the tickets for key contributors very early on
> the year. [...]
I don't think that's true. Particularly with modern computerised
demand-based price-setting systems, the prices flu
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:26:43AM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> Could we possibly ask our largest multinational corporate sponsors
> whether it would be possible to (ab-)use their corporate travel agents
> and their discounts to order tickets for Debconf centrally and thus
> save money? It might
On 22 August 2010 21:34, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On su, 2010-08-22 at 14:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is, if
>> you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
>
> Given that finding good flight p
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 06:34 +1200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On su, 2010-08-22 at 14:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is,
> > if
> > you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
>
> Given that fin
+++ MJ Ray [2010-08-22 12:49 +0100]:
> Also, we should not be assuming flights, particularly for debconf 11
> which is in Europe where land travel may work for some/many. Train
> and coach tickets and car hire pricing works on different schedules.
This is a good point. You can know approximate c
Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sonntag, 22. August 2010, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I think it's unreasonable to expect debconf attendees to guess what a
> > good price is
>
> I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is, if
> you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help lookin
Hi,
On Sonntag, 22. August 2010, MJ Ray wrote:
> I think it's unreasonable to expect debconf attendees to guess what a
> good price is
I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is, if
you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
cheers,
Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 08:49:54PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I don't think that's true. Particularly with modern computerised
> > demand-based price-setting systems, the prices fluctuate over time.
> > Earlier does not always mean cheaper. [...]
>
> Usually you can get an ap
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 08:49:54PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Pablo Duboue wrote:
> > (drdub) Following a discussion with Ana, the project might save quite
> > a bit of money if buys the tickets for key contributors very early on
> > the year. [...]
>
> I don't think that's true. Particularly with mo
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