Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, Probably this isn't a popular opinion, but If you're thinking to host DebConf24, I suggest you don't organize 2 weeks of event (DebCamp + DebConf). Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too muc

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Daniel Lenharo
I completely agree. It would be an exception to DC 24, and there is no reason to have an extra workload. Leave a few days in advance only for those who will assist in the infrastructure (video-team, FD). Em 30/10/2023 12:57, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana escreveu: Hi, Probably this isn't a p

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_15:57:51_+) > Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. > DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too much work > before the main event. Interesting to hear you say that. I have exactly the opposite view of DebCamp. It ma

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
While I sympathize with paulo's concerns, I would like to add that during (and subsequent discussions at) our bof about debconfs and the climate crisis at dc23, I heard several people saying that they would think twice before going far away to a debconf for just a few days. And from what I understo

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Orendra Singh
I think DebCamp is way more interesting in terms of where you can learn which part of the event you can help others. Only a few participants attend during the starting days. You are more likely to interact with many individuals and help them. Rather than just part of Rush attending talks and not ha

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
I'm also very much in favour of having a debcamp. This year it was really impressive with so many people being around, getting to know and learning from each other. It really would be a loss to not have it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, Just to be clear: I agree with all points you all have listed here about DebCamp :-) But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right?

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right? I do worry that DebConf keeps getting bigger and more

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of event, right? > > I do worry that DebConf keeps getting bigger and more complex. Things > only get

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:24:29PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > But it doesn't need to be like that. *Nothing* is mandatory, we'd love > to see bids that want to change things up! > > Stefano > > -- In all of this - and completely independently of the geopolitical situation - I'd like to

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 21:24:29 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_20:08:29_+) > > But, for 2024, with less months to organize, I think would be good remove > > this workload from Local Team. Or at least, would be good people know that > > isn't mandatory organizing 2 weeks of ev

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
I'd like to add - of course any bid for an in-person for 2024 is better than an "online" debconf, and depending, how things continue, next year we might need to compromise on things we'd rather not :( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> If we had only 1 week instead of 2, personally I'd prefer a week of > DebCamp over a week of DebConf. What about two weeks debcamp? :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Wookey
On 2023-10-31 01:13 +0100, Judit Foglszinger wrote: > I'd like to add - of course any bid for an in-person for 2024 is better than > an "online" debconf Not from an emissions point of view it isn't. Wookey -- Principal hats: Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ signature.asc Descripti

Re: Call for bids for DebConf24

2023-10-30 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 30 October 2023 11:36:33 pm IST, Stefano Rivera wrote: >Hi Paulo (2023.10.30_15:57:51_+) >> Considering the shorter time, If I was you, I wouldn't organize DebCamp. >> DebCamp is nice, it's great to have people earlier, but it's too much work >> before the main event. > >Interesting to h