Sam Hartman writes ("Re: The tone of discussion on this list"):
> I'd like to draw what I think is an important distinction:
Thanks for your intervention. I agree with your perspective.
Ian.
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes:
Ian> Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: The tone of discussion on this
Ian> list"):
>> I did not wanted to say its antisemetic, I wanted to say that we
>> don't want to see either antisemetic _or_ antiisrelism. In my
>> experience most discussions s
Hi
On 2019/05/13 18:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: The tone of discussion on this list"):
>> I did not wanted to say its antisemetic, I wanted to say that we
>> don't want to see either antisemetic _or_ antiisrelism. In my
>> exper
Alexander Wirt writes ("Re: The tone of discussion on this list"):
> I did not wanted to say its antisemetic, I wanted to say that we
> don't want to see either antisemetic _or_ antiisrelism. In my
> experience most discussions starting with antiisrealiasm will end
>
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 08:57:27PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> > But as a fellow Debian Developer, I must object to the implication that
> > this particular statement is antisemitic. It is not antisemitic to
> > object to the policies of the Israeli government. It is not antisemi
> > > ...
> >
> > From our policy:
> > * The mailing lists exist to foster the development and use of Debian.
> > Non-constructive or off-topic messages, along with other abuses, are not
> > welcome.
> > * Try not to flame; it is not polite.
> > * Use common sense all the time.
> >
> > From t
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi Steve,
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 07:47:42PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Ghassan_Kanafani wrote:
>
> > > Can you provide the definitions of anti-semitism and "antirealism" that
> > > you're using?
>
> > No, this is somethin
Hi Alexander,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 07:47:42PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Ghassan_Kanafani wrote:
> > Can you provide the definitions of anti-semitism and "antirealism" that
> > you're using?
> No, this is something that can't be pressed in a proper definition. But if
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Nasir El-Amin wrote:
>
>> So just to clarify your stance is that stating historically factual
>> statements about human rights violations in a country where the project has
>> decided to whole an event and where peop
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Nasir El-Amin wrote:
> So just to clarify your stance is that stating historically factual
> statements about human rights violations in a country where the project has
> decided to whole an event and where people of specific faiths and ethnicity
> will be excluded is off l
I appreciate the reply, but apologize but I'm still confused, and I think the
lack of a definition is a cop-out and I find it ironic that someone who has the
ability to moderate discussion cannot even define the rubric they are using to
do so!
> Israel has been murdering Muslims for
> countless
So just to clarify your stance is that stating historically factual statements
about human rights violations in a country where the project has decided to
whole an event and where people of specific faiths and ethnicity will be
excluded is off limits? Because that’s what your quoted statement wa
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Ghassan_Kanafani wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Can you provide the definitions of anti-semitism and "antirealism" that
> you're using?
No, this is something that can't be pressed in a proper definition. But if
people think that sentences like:
"Either way this ignores the fact tha
Hi Alex,
Can you provide the definitions of anti-semitism and "antirealism" that you're
using?
Too often the excuse of anti-semitism is used as a smokescreen to avoid
criticism of the Israeli government and their policies. (See the many
thinkpieces written about Ilhan Omar in the USA)
I have
Why do we have a code of conduct if list maintainers are going to depart from
it and make their own rules? You’ve have not assumed good faith and your not
allowing open discussion. https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct
Bringing up concerns of Debian Project having an event in a place that exclu
Hi,
this is a warning and note from us listmasters. Please come back to a
civilized discussion style. I don't want to see any antisemitism or
antisrealism on that list. Either you have something substantial to add to
the _debconf_ discussion or please don't take part in that discussion.
Otherwise
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