On 2022-07-17 13:06, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> On 2022-07-17 10:38, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Foo
>
> Bar
Let's not repeat the same discussion again and again. I believe that all
has been said, and all data points have been exchanged, even multiple
times :-) Thank you!
On 2022-07-17 10:38, Marc Haber wrote:
In fact, the reason that things did not progress was due to the massive
amount of stop energy at trying to improve our processes. I simply gave
up in engaging with Debian rather than trying to push for what I (still)
believe will improve engagement with new
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 08:57:44AM +, stefa...@debian.org wrote:
> Hi Neil (2022.07.16_03:19:27_+)
> > In fact, the reason that things did not progress was due to the massive
> > amount of stop energy at trying to improve our processes. I simply gave
> > up in engaging with Debian rather th
On 2022-07-16 11:58, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
> I believe that there were plans to also install biboumi to provide the
> same service to XMPP accounts on the debian.org server, but I don't know
> whether it has happened yet.
It did not happen yet, but I *want* to make it happen :-) I use IRC
On 2022-07-15 at 17:36:39 +, Denver Gingerich wrote:
> It feels like the Debian community is pretty comfortable with IRC (reasonably
> so) and so I was wondering if this was more of an off-hand comment, or if
> there are other uses of Matrix by Debian that go beyond what I mentioned
> above.
Hi Neil (2022.07.16_03:19:27_+)
> > That was less of a discussion, and more of someone who is new to our
> > community making a noise about how we are doing things wrong and should
> > be doing them differently. I think most people roll their eyes and mark
> > the thread as read. Many suggestio
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 09:15:37AM +, Stefano Rivera wrote:
> Hi Dashamir (2022.07.14_08:31:51_+)
> > But I have seen recently a very long discussion thread in a mailing list,
> > with pros and cons about introducing Discourse as an alternative or
> > replacement to mailing lists, and the r
]] Denver Gingerich
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 01:19:41PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > Quite a lot of decisions are made every day on mailing
> > lists (and IRC, Matrix, in person, and in a whole lot of other arenas)
> > they're just a lot less formal than GRs.
>
> At the risk of going a bit
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 01:19:41PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Quite a lot of decisions are made every day on mailing
> lists (and IRC, Matrix, in person, and in a whole lot of other arenas)
> they're just a lot less formal than GRs.
At the risk of going a bit off-topic here, I'm curious about
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:20 PM Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> > We don't have any form of decision making process on mailing lists. As
> > others have mentioned, when we make a project-wide vote (like DPL
> > elections or a GR), then that's co-ordinated by the project secretary.
>
> I think the word
Hi!
Am 2022-07-14 12:05, schrieb Jonathan Carter (highvoltage):
Also, if you enjoy learning things, there's #debian-til on IRC where
people can share snippets of things that they have learned in Debian
(especially the kind of things where we feel like we should've known
it before and for some r
]] "Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)"
> Hi Dashamir
>
> On 2022/07/14 10:07, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> > I am not sure how democratic decision making is made in Debian, but
> > I guess it is done through mailing lists, which in my opinion are
> > not the best tool for this purpose.
>
> We don't have
Hi Marc
On 2022/07/14 12:00, Marc Haber wrote:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:55:20AM +0200, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
On the debian.net domain, volunteers in the project can host services not
run by our official system administrators. One such site is
https://surveys.debian.net/ - which
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:55:20AM +0200, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
> On the debian.net domain, volunteers in the project can host services not
> run by our official system administrators. One such site is
> https://surveys.debian.net/ - which can be used if someone wants more
> feedback
Hi Dashamir
On 2022/07/14 10:07, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
I am not sure how democratic decision making is made in Debian, but I
guess it is done through mailing lists, which in my opinion are not the
best tool for this purpose.
We don't have any form of decision making process on mailing lists.
Hi Dashamir (2022.07.14_08:31:51_+)
> But I have seen recently a very long discussion thread in a mailing list,
> with pros and cons about introducing Discourse as an alternative or
> replacement to mailing lists, and the result of the discussion was not
> clear at all (at least I could not und
Hello Dashamir,
Dashamir Hoxha, on 2022-07-14:
> But I have seen recently a very long discussion thread in a mailing list,
> with pros and cons about introducing Discourse as an alternative or
> replacement to mailing lists, and the result of the discussion was not
> clear at all (at least I could
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:13 AM Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:07:04AM +0200, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> > I am not sure how democratic decision making is made in Debian
>
> The only "democratic decision making" in Debian are GRs.
>
> Everything
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:07:04AM +0200, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> I am not sure how democratic decision making is made in Debian
The only "democratic decision making" in Debian are GRs.
Everything else is not democratic, but up to every single person/team in
charge (and when there
dback (https://liquidfeedback.com/en/).
Can we arrange a meeting to discuss about it? I'll be at the DebConf up to
24.
I am not a proper member of the Debian community (maybe I am somewhere on
some outer circle), so decision making in Debian should not be my concern
(does not have to be)
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