Re: DC20: Questions regarding device inspections at the airport

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
Hi Ștefano, On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 1:09 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Giacomo (2019.03.21_12:49:20_+0200) >> So they relay much on screening (you will see at airport: many questions, >> different steps and queues, but you still can keep liquids). >> I really doubts you will have the laptop con

Re: The tone of discussion on this list

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Nasir El-Amin wrote: > >> So just to clarify your stance is that stating historically factual >> statements about human rights violations in a country where the project has >> decided to

Re: The tone of discussion on this list

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
So just to clarify your stance is that stating historically factual statements about human rights violations in a country where the project has decided to whole an event and where people of specific faiths and ethnicity will be excluded is off limits? Because that’s what your quoted statement wa

Re: The tone of discussion on this list

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
Why do we have a code of conduct if list maintainers are going to depart from it and make their own rules? You’ve have not assumed good faith and your not allowing open discussion. https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct Bringing up concerns of Debian Project having an event in a place that exclu

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
I would oppose a Debconf in the United States too because the current exclusionary and oppressive policies. This isn’t about faith as some are trying to make it out to be it’s about acts of fascism Anyways per the list maintainer I’m no longer allowed to discuss this issue or criticize Debconf

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
smissive of this one. >> >> I would also humbly encourage my european friends here to inform themselves >> of the situation (if they haven't already), considering that many european >> countries are responsible for starting and supporting the ongoing conflict. >>

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
leaves Israel. Palestinians deserve their land back and reparations for the genocide caused by citizens, military and police of Israel. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2019/03/21 19:36, Nasir El-Amin wrote: >> I haven’t once mentioned Jews. I’ve mentioned

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
upport the occupation(unless we really hang a banner > that says so). > > I have my sympathy to those who may be affected due to the political reasons, > but that really not Debconf's fault nor responsibility as a third party. > > 林博仁(Buo-ren, Lin) > buo.ren@gmail.com &

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
in your own country as a White South African who for decades benefited as Black South Africans suffered oppression. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Nasir > > On 2019/03/21 18:52, Nasir El-Amin wrote: >> Any DD who lives in Israel is a direct contribu

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
imprisonment and murder of the Palestinians that lived on the land Israel now occupies. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:13 AM, Matthew Vernon wrote: > Hi, > > On 21/03/2019 16:52, Nasir El-Amin wrote: > >> There is no such thing as an innocent Israeli just like there is no

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
also be advocating against a Debconf in Saudi Arabia because they exclude Israelis. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:44 AM, Andrej Shadura wrote: > Nasir, > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 17:10, Nasir El-Amin > wrote: >> Either way this ignores the fact that Israel has been murdering Musli

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
because they support the existence of their apartheid state. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:44 AM, Andrej Shadura wrote: > Nasir, > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 17:10, Nasir El-Amin > wrote: >> Either way this ignores the fact that Israel has been murdering Muslims for >> countles

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 12:31 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 3/21/19 5:10 PM, Nasir El-Amin wrote: >>> Debian having a conference in contested land where military conflict and >>> oppressive acts are occurring is unacceptable. >> >> A

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
/2017/03/16/is-israel-an-apartheid-state-this-u-n-report-says-yes/ On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 3/21/19 5:10 PM, Nasir El-Amin wrote: >> Debian having a conference in contested land where military conflict and >> oppressive acts a

Re: Debconf in Israel

2019-03-21 Thread Nasir El-Amin
) are working on a larger response to Debconf in Israel. If you at all believe in social justice and oppose human rights violations then you will not attend a Debconf in Israel. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 1:32 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Yesterday Nasir El-Amin wrote to this list a message. > &

Debconf in Israel is Shameful

2019-03-20 Thread Nasir El-Amin
As a user of Debian for many years and a Muslim I’m writing to say I’m deeply saddened by Debian’s choice to have Debconf in Israel. Israel is land stolen from Palestinians its a illegitimate nation that has built walls with machine gun turrets and oppressive paramilitary groups that assault an