Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 07:25:38AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Latest update: don't take flights connecting through the UK either. > > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/21/uk-set-to-ban-laptops-on-flights-from-middle-east-countries > > Notice they didn't include the UAE airports in the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/03/17 16:12, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, > How are we to know if we are affected by the ban or not ? Most > airlines, at least the low-cost ones I know don't have an e-mail id or > even if they have, they don't reply. I have experienced it . I have > tried the live chat option at some

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 22/03/17 05:51, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda > >> Respectfully... > >> Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list?

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda > Respectfully... > Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list? No. Have a nice day. -- Steve Langasek

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Steve On 21/03/2017 20:02, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > There has been no indication that this is in any way driven by the Trump > administration. http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/21/news/airline-electronics-ban-explainer/index.html?sr=fb

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda Respectfully... Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list? I'd very much prefer if we just keep fighting for free software, and I suspect I'm not the only one with that preference. D

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than > individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. > Some of the airports on the list (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) are transit points > for many people

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel Pocock dijo [Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100]: > Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than > individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. > (...) FWIW, coming from Mexico, I decided to buy a >US$700 ticket instead of a ~US$500 one, e

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear all, How are we to know if we are affected by the ban or not ? Most airlines, at least the low-cost ones I know don't have an e-mail id or even if they have, they don't reply. I have experienced it . I have tried the live chat option at some of the sites too and at times have found that what t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jerome Charaoui
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Le 2017-03-21 à 09:20, Jeroen Dekkers a écrit : > At Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:29:17 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines >> rather than individuals and it could impact people going to >> DebConf this y

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jerome Charaoui
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Le 2017-03-21 à 04:29, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on > DebConf and DebConf visitors? For example, could there be a > computer lab or other facility where people can work without a > laptop

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/03/17 11:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2017-03-21 11:21:30) >> martin f krafft wrote: >>> Do not fly via the US. >> >> That's my plan also, but: >> >> the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose >> the restriction on flights to Montre

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:49:27AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > I don't believe the media coverage; but if this really does happen, > > hopefully everyone can find a flight/airline avoiding such > > restrictions. My ideas would be using KLM (direct from Europe) or Wizz > > Air (via Rejkjavi

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:29:17 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than > individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. It is a cabin ban, so it is still possible to put a laptop in checked luggage. Kind regards, Je

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/03/17 11:10, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Daniel Pocock [2017-03-21 21:29 > +1300]: >> Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on >> DebConf and DebConf visitors? > > Do not fly via the US. I understand this might mean the cheapest > flight is not available

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21:30AM +, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > martin f krafft wrote: > > Do not fly via the US. > > That's my plan also, but: > > the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose > the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2017-03-21 11:21:30) > martin f krafft wrote: > > Do not fly via the US. > > That's my plan also, but: > > the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose > the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the US. > > I don't be

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Steven Chamberlain
martin f krafft wrote: > Do not fly via the US. That's my plan also, but: the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the US. I don't believe the media coverage; but if this really does happen, hopefull

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Pocock [2017-03-21 21:29 +1300]: > Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on > DebConf and DebConf visitors? Do not fly via the US. I understand this might mean the cheapest flight is not available to you, but some of the measures you propose would mean a

[Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. Some of the airports on the list (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) are transit points for many people from Asia going to the US and Canada or from Australia going to Europe.