Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2012-03-27 Thread skraps
if you really wanted you could rewrite dbmail to take advantage of AES features of mysql. On 03/27/2012 at 5:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:Am 27.03.2012 10:52, schrieb Pascal Longrais: > > > Hello All, > > Is there some way/past experience to automatically crypt user mail/mime content with tools

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2012-03-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.03.2012 10:52, schrieb Pascal Longrais: > > > Hello All, > > Is there some way/past experience to automatically crypt user mail/mime > content with tools like PGP? dbmail is "only" IMAP/POP3/LMTP mail transport is done by the MTA (postfix, exim) however, it does NOT make sense to

[Dbmail] mail encryption

2012-03-27 Thread Pascal Longrais
Hello All, Is there some way/past experience to automatically crypt user mail/mime content with tools like PGP? Thanks, Pascal ___ DBmail mailing list DBmail@dbmail.org http://mailman.fastxs.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-02-04 Thread M. J. [Micheal] OBrien
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DBMail mailinglist" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption Following this thread made me think of a little development resource that might be helpful. I don't know if this helps anyone but I added dbmail

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-30 Thread Casper Langemeijer
> I hadn't thought about. I'm going to investigate the possibility. > > Sim > > > Original Message > Subject: [Dbmail] mail encryption > From: Dave Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: DBMail mailinglist > Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 07

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Sim Zacks
keeps the mails in the database until cleanup, if I understand correctly). James Cloos idea of doing the encryption at the MTA is a great idea that I hadn't thought about. I'm going to investigate the possibility. Sim Original Message ---- Subject: [Dbmail] mail encrypt

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread James Cloos
The server side of doing this is easy. The client side (both MUA and user :) may not be. I suggest doing the encryption at the MTA rather than at the injection. Use the same methods the various anti-virus, anti-spam, et al systems do to interact with your MTA. That may be milters for sendmail o

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Logan
So, I'm just throwing this out there, are you looking for true encryption, or just an obfuscation? For example could you do a rot13 or something equivalent? Sure it's not real security, and it's easily enough worked around, i.e. instead of searching for 'salary' I'd search for the rot13 value of

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 Marc Dirix wrote: > Who says the CEO as a /he/ and the CFO a /she/ ? > Maybe you've been reading their emails? Of course, I was just looking for Al-Quaida terroristic plans. You know, in the USA everything against terrorism is explicitly allowed, ask the DOHS. /* ju

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Sim Zacks
Actually, in my messages I have referred to the CEO as a him and the CFO as a her. Not because of any malicious stereotypes or anything, just that's the way it is in the organization I work for. sim Who says the CEO as a /he/ and the CFO a /she/ ? Maybe you've been reading their emails? (No

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Marc Dirix
> That is what is solved by PGP: The CEO types an e-mail, his *PC* > encrypts it and sends it to the CFO. This encrypted text is stored in > the DB, and transferred over the Internet and all other cables > encrypted. Only on the PC of the CFO the e-mail will be decrypted. When > she answers, it

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 Sim Zacks wrote: > The problem is having the data encrypted as it is stored. That is what is solved by PGP: The CEO types an e-mail, his *PC* encrypts it and sends it to the CFO. This encrypted text is stored in the DB, and transferred over the Internet and all other

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Paul J Stevens
Sim Zacks wrote: > The problem is having the data encrypted as it is stored. Paul Stevens > said in one of his posts that this is a *bad* idea. Is this because of > the amount of time it would take, or is there another problem here? What > I was thinking is that if I had the encryption library on t

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Marc Dirix
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:19:45AM +0200, Sim Zacks wrote: > The problem is having the data encrypted as it is stored. Paul Stevens said > in one of his posts that this is a *bad* idea. Is this because of the > amount of time it would take, or is there another problem here? What I was > thinking

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-29 Thread Sim Zacks
The problem is having the data encrypted as it is stored. Paul Stevens said in one of his posts that this is a *bad* idea. Is this because of the amount of time it would take, or is there another problem here? What I was thinking is that if I had the encryption library on the server then on the

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Marc Dirix
IMAP, especially on a database, changes the picture because while the sys admin is doing routine maintenance it is so easy and untraceable to search for keywords (such as his name or the word salary) that even a "trusted" system administrator will do this. When the CFO gets salary inform

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Sim Zacks
I think everyone is missing the point here. Everyone knows that email is insecure. Everyone knows that system administrators have to be trusted, at least to some degree. For the system administrator to read someone's email in our current system, he would have to put a sniffer on and redirect a

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread M. J. [Micheal] OBrien
Following this thread made me think of a little development resource that might be helpful. I don't know if this helps anyone but I added dbmail to our open pgp keyserver cluster. These servers are really only intended for group use, like for example a group of all DBMail users. If you are loo

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Jake Anderson
Sim Zacks wrote: I've read a lot about password encryption with dbmail, but does (or can) dbmail support encrpytion of the actual messages? Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to IMAP because it would make it simple for the system administrators to read their emai

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Robert Claeson
On 28 Jan 2008, at 23:03, Michael Monnerie wrote: On Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Michael luich wrote: The only REAL answer is to encrypt the message at it's source and decrypt it at it's destination. And this requires a lot more than Dbmail can handle alone. Yes, and it's called PGP or GnuPG. No

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Michael Monnerie wrote: > Yes, and it's called PGP or GnuPG. No reason to invent something new. In case somebody uses Outlook and wants PGP: http://www.gpg4win.org/ mfg zmi -- // Michael Monnerie, Ing.BSc- http://it-management.at // Tel: 0676/846 914 666

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Michael luich wrote: > The only REAL answer is to encrypt the message at it's > source and decrypt it at it's destination. And this requires a lot > more than Dbmail can handle alone. Yes, and it's called PGP or GnuPG. No reason to invent something new. mfg zmi -- // M

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Michael luich
My company, Globalcerts LC (http://www.globalcerts.net) builds email encryption appliances. Our CEO asked us if our product could do this and we took a look. Ours won't as we only handle mail leaving the organization and it's transport across the net, but it is possible to do. Dbmail does no

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread M. J. [Micheal] OBrien
The CEO and CFO might be surprised to learn that writing something on an email is pretty much like writing it on the back of a postcard and mailing it. You will not absolutely prevent electronic mail sent through the SMTP protocol (over 20 years old) from being read by persons other than the re

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Sim Zacks wrote: > Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to > IMAP because it would make it simple for the system administrators to > read their email. They aren't as concerned with sniffers and stuff > like that because that would require con

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Paul J Stevens
Sim Zacks wrote: > I've read a lot about password encryption with dbmail, but does (or can) > dbmail support encrpytion of the actual messages? > Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to > IMAP because it would make it simple for the system administrators to > read thei

RE: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Jon Duggan
BMail mailinglist Subject: Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption On Monday 28 January 2008 10:33:59 Sim Zacks wrote: > This is true, but if I send the CEO a message and I don't encrypt it > then it will be sitting in his dbmail account without encryption. There should be some company's securit

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Guntis Bumburs
On Monday 28 January 2008 10:33:59 Sim Zacks wrote: > This is true, but if I send the CEO a message and I don't encrypt it > then it will be sitting in his dbmail account without encryption. There should be some company's security politics concerning security sensitive information. So all your us

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Paul J Stevens
Sim Zacks wrote: > I've read a lot about password encryption with dbmail, but does (or can) > dbmail support encrpytion of the actual messages? > Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to > IMAP because it would make it simple for the system administrators to > read thei

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-28 Thread Sim Zacks
This is true, but if I send the CEO a message and I don't encrypt it then it will be sitting in his dbmail account without encryption. Sim Hello, in MUA you can use Certificates to Sign and Encrypt mail messages. The messages will be stored encrypted in dbmail database. So there will be no s

Re: [Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-27 Thread Guntis Bumburs
On Monday 28 January 2008 09:01:09 Sim Zacks wrote: > I've read a lot about password encryption with dbmail, but does (or can) > dbmail support encrpytion of the actual messages? > Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to > IMAP because it would make it simple for the

[Dbmail] mail encryption

2008-01-27 Thread Sim Zacks
I've read a lot about password encryption with dbmail, but does (or can) dbmail support encrpytion of the actual messages? Our CEO and CFO are both very concerned with the idea of switching to IMAP because it would make it simple for the system administrators to read their email. They aren't as