Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread sturmflut
Hi Timur, On 04.04.2018 21:06, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > 1. DT relies only on libexiv2 in extraction of EXIF metadata. > 2. exiv2 fails to extract vendor specific information from DNG file > (converted via Adobe DNG Converter) when compared with exiftool. But > original NEF data is ther

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > Davletshin: > > Hello everybody! > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > > related > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > >

[darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread The Ritz
A bug in DTs metadata reader is not a good argument for your cause. ;) On April 4, 2018 13:36:36 Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: > Hello everybody! > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 16:09 +0200, sturmflut wrote: > Hello Timur, > > On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > > > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information > > is > > lost in DNG. > > I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in > bo

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 16:09 +0200, sturmflut wrote: > Hello Timur, > > On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > > > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information > > is > > lost in DNG. > > I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in > bo

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 15:37:29 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: [...] > This is why I wrote 'native or converted' in my previous letter. Dear > Patrick, I'm not here for the purpose of your religious war against DNG > which is *not* standard. I think this is just an obvious bug whic

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Bernhard
Tobias Ellinghaus schrieb am 04.04.2018 um 13:36: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: Hello everybody! Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread sturmflut
Hello Timur, On 04.04.2018 13:15, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote: > Simple investigation with exiftool shows that no lens information is > lost in DNG. I guess if the data is there and exiftool sees the same values in both files, but different things happen later on, that would point in the di

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:49 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 09:40]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > 18 > > > 08:46]: > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanaha

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 09:40]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:46]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > > 18 > > > > 08:0

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:46]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04- > > > 18 > > > 08:01]: > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellingha

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 09:08]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:01]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irik

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 08:46]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > > 08:01]: > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irik

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:01]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > > Davletshin: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 > 08:01]: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > > Davletshin: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin [04-04-18 08:01]: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > > Davletshin: > > > Hello everybody! > > > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich > Davletshin: > > Hello everybody! > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem > > related > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > >

Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin: > Hello everybody! > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters. > Lens info

[darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
Hello everybody! Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem related to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2). 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters. Lens info shown by DT: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II 2. DNG file cannot apply it be