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Re: OT: consequences for bad laws

2000-08-10 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-08-24 Thread Michael Motyka
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Re: [OT] California senator tries to mandate remote kill switches

2000-09-12 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-09-12 Thread Michael Motyka
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Re: Abortion Assasination Politics likely going to Supremes

2000-09-12 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-09-12 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-09-18 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-09-28 Thread Michael Motyka
>>By the time the coherent radiation (needed to make an image) passes > >Were not talking holograms, Jimmy-boy > It is fun isn't it? I think what he was trying to convey were the effects of reflection, absortion and diffusion. Without having tried one of these devices or knowing what wavelengths

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-28 Thread Michael Motyka
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2000-09-28 Thread Michael Motyka
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2003-12-08 Thread Michael Shields
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Re: (No Subject)

2003-12-10 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
ouldn't we do the same thing to them? I'll take it that was a rhetoric question but: "Eye for an Eye and the world goes blind." Michael

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
Jim Dixon wrote: I have gazed into the abyss and seen a man having his teeth checked and getting a haircut. :-| And how would you have felt to be the one who got your teeth checked and get a haircut with the whole world watching? M.

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
ht coal from them to heat your cell -- tiny windows high in thick stone walls, so no real ventilation -- you were slowly poisoned by carbon monoxide. If you didn't, you froze. It's cold in Kabul in the winter. Bad conditions, so help the Afghani government to improve the conditions. Michael

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
Anatoly Vorobey wrote: If I had record like Saddam's on me? Gee, I'd be real happy I wasn't shot on the spot, or maybe cruelly tortured and then shot, the way I'd behaved to people I'd captured. Or maybe torn into pieces by a shrieking mob. Instead of doing any of that, they check my teeth and

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
gt; a haircut? Televising this for propaganda purposes. > > Why exactly do you say that mass murder, invasion, genocide somehow > are outweighed in the scales of justice by a medical examination? > No, what I am saying is that no matter what he did, the US still has to play by int

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Kalus
y of these people did >> anything wrong. > > Do you know for a fact that there are US citizens held at Guantanamo? > If > so, who are they? > There have been several reports. What about John Walker? Whatever happened to him? >>> >> It doesn't. But if that would be the case than the captured Afghans >> should be returned to the Afghan authorities, why is this not >> happening? > > Perhaps the Afghan authorities don't want them back. > > Hello? > Perhaps you just look for the easy way out? Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBP+DwTmlCnxcrW2uuEQL6iwCeOK5U56u8xVB9aT1SAqj+yi7OULcAoOd0 bml/UV9L7YtJFFoAq77OCilk =aXZZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-18 Thread Michael Kalus
James A. Donald wrote: -- On 17 Dec 2003 at 22:54, Michael Kalus wrote: No, but it is very interresting that all of this didn't matter while Saddam was the "good guy" for our causes (and by that I mean the Western world general). You are making up your own history.

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-18 Thread Michael Kalus
Jim Dixon wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote: On 17 Dec 2003 at 22:54, Michael Kalus wrote: No, but it is very interresting that all of this didn't matter while Saddam was the "good guy" for our causes (and by that I mean the Western world general).

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19-Dec-03, at 11:55 AM, ken wrote: > Nomen Nescio wrote: > >> Let's face it: not even the Nazi war criminals were treated in the >> way Saddam has been treated. > > > Eh? > > And have you heard about the Soviet Union? > I'll take it then that the

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The US has global hegemony because in reality its policies are > reasonable, > because it isn't worth anyone's while to try to oppose it. > that I would like to oppose. It is rather the fact that in the past it wasn't very feasible. The world is g

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
ainwashed you if I may ask? Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBP+NJ1WlCnxcrW2uuEQLcegCgj3ZP50alQEzNLWlB7LX7TROD57QAoKal OtP9wE1e+KrM4t/aLTCz61J4 =/gHZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
/groups?selm=739htvsqv3bteggtq8p2ht5ae1fl8g3rj > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://tinyurl.com/yzao > I'll have a look at it. But I guess you also tell me that anything Michael Moore said in "Bowling for Columbine" is wrong too? >> If you ally with the enemy than you are giving up

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18-Dec-03, at 9:34 PM, James A. Donald wrote: > -- > On 18 Dec 2003 at 15:42, Michael Kalus wrote: >> By January 1984, /The Washington Post/ was reporting that the >> United States had told friendly nations in the Persia

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19-Dec-03, at 2:35 PM, James A. Donald wrote: > -- > On 18 Dec 2003 at 21:57, J.A. Terranson wrote: >> Yet, I shed and continue to shed tears for a race of people >> that refuses to respect the rights of men and their nations. >> Like the Sovie

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Kalus
use of excessive (and unnecessary) to "free" her is also a commie lie. I am just wondering, but is anything that has happened (or is happening) in Iraq and done by the US / Western powers wrong in your eyes, or simply can they do no wrong? Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE---

Re: "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America"

2003-12-20 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-Dec-03, at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not sure what your motivation is for wanting to rewrite history, > but that > isn't what Glaspie said. > I am guessing here that he just wants to believe that the US is acting in their forei

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Kalus
guarantees you talk about are attached to U.S. trials, which > Saddam will not enjoy (or dread, depending...). > See above. Because of the possiblity that either Rumsfled & friends might end up in front of the ICC they never signed off on it. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBP+WcnGlCnxcrW2uuEQKsaACgiPD6Kbq/WN0qTL2eDyllk8QBC+0AoIxa SboDJZtx5bUh6IrVFc9PShmh =Hkgx -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > As Bill Stuart pointed out, this is not an American war. This is a war > (or so the U.S. claims) based on alleged violation of an agreement > between Iraq and the UN. It seems to me that American Courts or > American Tribunals have no authority t

Indications Saddam Was Not in Hiding But a Captive

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.debka.com/article_print.php?aid=743 Indications Saddam Was Not in Hiding But a Captive DEBKAfile Special Report December 14, 2003, 6:55 PM (GMT+02:00) A number of questions are raised by the incredibly bedraggled, tired and crushed cond

Re: I am anti war. You lot support Saddam

2003-12-24 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > It really is that they hate us for our (relative) freedom. Believe it or not, but most people do not care about what way you live. The only way they know about your "freedom" by watching american TV. So blame it on yourself. > I > can see that

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2003-12-24 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-26 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-Dec-03, at 12:37 PM, Eric Cordian wrote: >> A Berlin criminal court sentenced 38-year-old Michael Regener to 40 >> months in prison after a six-month trial that tested the boundaries of >> free expression in a nation with s

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-26 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> The German law clearly defines what is hate speech. It is not an easy >> task as you can see in a six month trial. > > Germany, or any State that restricts words or thought, needs a regime > change > with extreme prejudice. > Then I guess you be

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-27 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2003-12-31 Thread Michael Kalus
Major Variola (ret) wrote: TV stations which exploit the aetherial commons are a tricky case. The government licensors have to be very careful not to induce censorship. Yet, the FCC has guidelines what can and cannot be aired. Thus no free speech as you claim it to be. Michael

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2003-12-31 Thread Michael Kalus
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2004-01-02 Thread Michael Kalus
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Re: US Finally Kills The 2nd Ammendment

2004-01-09 Thread Michael Kalus
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2001-12-03 Thread Michael Motyka
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly ( was Masks to be illegal in U.K. )

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Motyka
smallpox wrote : > > Removal of disguises data fodder for CCTV > > Clause 93 would insert a new section 60AA into the Criminal Justice and > Public Order Act 1994. It would allow police to remove any facial > coverings or disguises in a specified area for 24 hours following the > order of a seni

Re: cryptographic fantasy (ca. "Stego, my ass" by WF Buckley)

2001-12-12 Thread Michael Motyka
> The notion that Osama would use a filmed interview to > send out recondite commands is cryptographic fantasy. > > William F. Buckley Jr. > OSAMA THE INVINCIBLE > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ucwb/20011211/cm/osama_the_invincible_1.html > OK piece. I usually write off Buckley as a pompous ass. I

phantoms and rhetoric ( was : CDR: Re: Steganography, My Ass: The Dangers of Private and Self-Censorship )

2001-12-12 Thread Michael Motyka
Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Declan McCullagh writes: >> I always enjoy Jonathan's essays, and this one is no exception. He >> properly points out the disturbing analogy that Attorney General >> Ashcroft seems to make (http://www.politechbot.com/p-02900.html) >> between criticism and

Re: Jewish Terror Attack on US Foiled

2001-12-13 Thread Michael Motyka
rugel's >> home, U.S. Attorney John S. Gordon said. Authorities said the two planned >> to bomb the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City and the office of freshman >> Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. >> >> -- >> Eric Michael Cordian 0+ > I'm not seeing

Re: FBI Surveillance Software to be Part of Windows XP Updates (fwd)

2001-12-14 Thread Michael Motyka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > >On 13 Dec 2001, at 22:33, Jei wrote: > >> "We are confident that Microsoft and the government will limit the use of >> this technology only to targets relevant to legitimate investigations," he >> added, further underscoring the cult's faith in federal law enforcement

MS DRM OS

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Motyka
Could someone who knows more than I do explain to me why this MS "IP" is anything other than making the owner of a PC unable to have root access to their own hardware/OS? If so it seems to be an idea unworthy of protection from lawyers and men with guns. Mike

Re: Digital Angel gets under the skin after all

2001-12-19 Thread Michael Motyka
"Roy M. Silvernail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-121901chips.story > >Applied Digital Solutions is pursuing the implantable chip after all. >It's not the GPS-trackable unit yet, but more like the doggie chips. >The L.A. Times story says it holds

Words

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Motyka
mattd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >>...I have no doubt it will be implemented and protected viciously. I use >the word viciously because that is the only way to make DRM work and there >is a great deal of money at stake. Mike > >Steve Ballmer,viscious? Nah,shurley not.The early models were a lit

book

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Motyka
Bought a copy of True Names and read it last night. Great story, especially considering the date. The first net-fi I read was Neuromancer in '84. R. Stallman's Right to Read short story is sickeningly close to reality. I don't care one way or the other if Microsoft patents and creates an OS that

Start the New Year with a clean slate

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Reiher
Title: New Page 1   Debt Reduction Professionals Special Offer!

Re: Scarfo Phase 2

2002-01-02 Thread Michael Motyka
John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > John Schwartz writes in the December 31 New York Times: > > "A controversial system installed on a criminal suspect's > computer by the government to capture the encryption > passwords of a criminal suspect is nearing its second > phase." > > Anybod

Decent Orwell Article.

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Motyka
An interesting read in which the author delves into some details of Orwell's life and possible origins and targets of his satire. Includes some neat stuff regarding the dates 1984 and 2000. Time to go read Iron Heel by Jack London. http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/158445.

Re: CP flix

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Motyka
anonymous wrote : > >At 09:35 AM 1/2/02 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: >>> Nomen Nescio[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: >>> >>> There was once an effort here to list CP relevent prose. >>> How about a list of CP relevent moving pictures (and why >>> relevent)? >>> >>> Enemy of the State ---for survei

Re: explicit govt monopoly rent-seeking (law abuse)

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Motyka
Anonymous wrote : > >The problem dates from the early 1930s, when utility companies delivered >their bills by mailbox through their own employees out reading meters. The >Postal Service saw a huge drop in revenue and decided to act. Enforcement >became even more important in 1970, Dalton wrote, wh

"subscribe cypherpunks"

2002-01-06 Thread Michael Muckin
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Re: Cpunks Lauded

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Motyka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > >On 5 Jan 2002, at 7:58, John Young wrote: > >> This crypto demonization may well intensify as investigations >> proceed into the government, military and intelligence failure to >> prevent 911. Whether crypto actually played any role in the >> attack may be seen as

Re: Random Data Compressed 100:1 (Guffaw)

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Motyka
a way as to allow the >same data to be compressed more than 100 times over -- with no data loss. >That would be at least an order of magnitude beyond current known >algorithms for compacting data. >... >-- >Eric Michael Cordian 0+ > There may be a way to derive & patch toget

Re: Prisoner on line discussion (fwd)

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Motyka
Never saw it. I'm still waiting for the complete Maxwell Smart on DVD. Mike

Re: Random Data Compressed 100:1 (Guffaw)

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Motyka
Ken Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >Michael Motyka wrote: >> Here we go : >> >> "As Eric correctly points out, true random input simply cannot be >> compressed, it doesn't matter how clever you are or how much time and >> computing powe

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