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At 11:01 AM -0700 6/11/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
>At 03:39 PM 6/10/03 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:
>>IMHO, the problem is that the C language is just too error prone to be
>used
>>for most software. In "Thirty Years Later: Lessons from the Multics
>>Security Eva
> Oh get over it. There are other formats.
You ever heard of XML? HTML? RTF?
There are output formats and input formats.
It's easy to output data in formats other people can read -
if you want something prettier than ASCII,
HTML is usually fine, though there's not much support
for embedded pictu
for
the lack of buffer overruns in Multics. However, in the Unix/Linux/PC/Mac
world, a successor language has not yet appeared.
YMMV - Bill
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At 06:15 PM 06/17/2003 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2998870.stm
"With Iraq's judicial system in disarray after the end of the war, Paul Bremer
said a special criminal court would be set up.
He said the court would try people, "in particular senior Baathists...
> > > Methinks Mr Hatch is not a very bright man.
> > A Southern senator. Need I say more?
Utah is Southern? I do not want directions from you. :-)
I think people have been mixing up Orrin Hatch with Jesse Helms.
Both are right-wingers who didn't really like the 20th century,
much less the 21st
Somebody did an interesting attack on a cable network's customers.
They cracked the cable company's DHCP server, got it to provide a
"Connection-specific DNS suffic" pointing to a machine they owned,
and also told it to use their DNS server.
This meant that when your machine wanted to look up yahoo
At 11:15 PM 06/28/2003 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Stewart writes:
>This looks like it has the ability to work around DNSSEC.
>Somebody trying to verify that they'd correctly reached yahoo.com
>would instead verify that they
At 11:49 PM 06/29/2003 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
No, I believe only one of the following situations can occur:
* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com", and the DNS server
translate them into yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com. If your laptop
knows the DNSSEC root key, the attacker cann
Is it really quiet in here, or does the fact that I've been
playing with procmail this evening have something to do with it?
Thanks; Bill
Great. First they take the Champagne, now they want the port and sherry,
and feta cheese.
Next it'll be the Chianti, and they'll find something wrong with fava beans
as well.
Worse than that, they'll make Americans stop eating Hamburgers,
and the vast right wing conspiracy already banned French
hem to stay damp
so they corrode, but immersion for a time (up to weeks) followed by a fresh
water rinse and drying might not be so bad. Do any hardware experts have
an opinion?
Cheers - Bill
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linda Hull
Subject: Jude Milhon has passed away
To those who knew her...I thought I would mention
that Jude has passed away.
To those who did not know her, she was the woman
who coined the phrase cypherpunk. Jude was
The real question is whether the FBI's keyloggers caught Jiang's passwords,
or whether it was the NSA or Mossad caught the FBI's keyloggers
catching Jiang's keylogger catching other passwords.
At 01:13 PM 07/23/2003 -0700, Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
Kinko's spy case: Risks of renting PCs
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At 02:29 PM 07/16/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Anyone have any idea if any ISPs are refusing to accept encrypted
>email from "black-listed" countries?
>
>Or is this just a matter of NAI cluelessness?
The usual principle of
"Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by s
>At 02:30 PM 7/11/01 -0700, Black Unicorn wrote:
> >No, the real question is who can knock down or render inoperable the OWNER
> >of the satellite.
But ownership is easily fixed - a few magic words from a lawyer
(ok, with a lot of expensive research into tax and accounting issues first),
and the
So how much does Cuban Air Traffic Control charge for U2 overflight support?
1960 - 2001, with some reasonable interest rates for late payments
At 07:53 PM 07/12/2001 -1000, Reese wrote:
>At 10:43 PM 7/11/01, Tim May wrote:
>
> >>One real world example of such.
> >
> >Learn to use a search
At 05:02 PM 06/14/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, cubic-dog wrote [incorrectly--wcs]
>
> > This type of surveillence is allowed without warrent
> > because it is non-invasive.
>
>How can any sort of search be 'non-invasive'?
Looking in your car windows is non-invasive.
Lookin
tions of my government. This cannot stand.
Telephone numbers:
US State Department: 1-202-647-6575
Russian Embassy: 1-202-298-5700
Russian Consul (SF) 1-415928-6878
Call. Get your friends to call. Call again.
Please disseminate this information as widely as possible.
-Bill
Instead of remanding, Downes rules.
This means that Downes is going with the feds.
We need some help guys.
Please think some help up.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8327/
We are working on this.
So are they.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8327/buehlerpayne.html
At 05:11 PM 07/23/2001 -0700, Mr. Falun Gong wrote:
>Ok, the Subject line is a bit of a stretch, as there's no anon payment,
>but it is interesting nonetheless.
>
> Israel to look into Arafat murder ad
> By SAUD ABU RAMADAN
>
> GAZA, July 23 (UPI) -- Israel's attorney general on Monday said h
I'm not sure which of the >s are Petro, Schliesser, Measl, or others,
> >> >> We still live in a country that has laws, and we *should* expect
> the LEAs
> >> >to enforce all laws that are on the books.
I think this was Petro, who I think was a Marine, and therefore should know
better.
The Un
I've set mine to 128. It had been 12800.
I see duplicates from certain people very consistently. I've
suspected that they address their mail to multiple CDRs and are
getting unique Message-IDs for each, but I've never checked into
it.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 12:08:56PM -0500, Igor Chudov
ROTECTED]>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
de>
I think formail should be concatenating the lines before making the
check, but I see that it has a -c option that may help.
-Bill
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 10:07:36AM -0500, Bill O'Hanlon wrote:
>
>
> I've set mine to 128
TLA Video. So *many* possibilities :-)
We've got your FBI surveillance videos, your NRO satellite photos,
CIA spy movies, KGB spy movies with similar plots, OMB fantasies, IRS S&M
flix,
FCC bootlegs of "Seven dirty words you can't say on TV",
movies about chocolate from the FDA and NEA,
science
>Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Stephen T. Middlebrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: www.torricellideathwatch.com
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Republican "pranksters" have put up a www.torricellideathwatch.com web site
>letting readers predict the d
The article's somewhat long, and has quotes by David Sobel of EPIC
and various Feds. The Feds didn't have a wiretap warrant,
only a search warrant, and black-bagged Scarfo's computer.
"Armed only with a search warrant, the FBI broke into Scarfo's
business
and put either a prog
At 09:43 AM 07/06/2001 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > >One of the interesting things is that _ear shape_ is one of the best
> > >correlation features.
> >
> > Hmmm...
> > Maybe it's time to market a line of Privacy Ear Jewelry.
> > Shouldn't be hard with a couple piercing here, and some
At 12:00 AM 07/31/2001 -0700, Alan wrote:
>I guess we *do* have the best government money can buy. We just were not the
>ones writing the checks...
Naahhh... You ought to be able to buy a much better government than that. :-)
That actually is part of the problem - governments writing laws abo
At 11:52 AM 07/31/2001 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>It would be handy, from my point of view, to use usenet as
>an "offsite backup" solution -- posting encrypted source
>for work-in-progress on binary newsgroups so I could just
>go back and nab it out of the archives if I ever have a
>disk crash o
At 08:22 AM 08/02/2001 -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
>Just because it is public DOES mean it's declassified. There are
>Supreme Court cases on this. If the government can recover all the
>copies, then it can REclassify it. But if it can't, then the document
>is not classified.
It's not that strai
On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:29:55AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> Actually they should ONLY be removing attachments to their subscribers, if
> they are removing attachments in general then they are breaking the
> contract.
Contract?
On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 11:54:35AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Bill O'Hanlon wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:29:55AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> > > Actually they should ONLY be removing attachments to their subscribers, if
> > > they
On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 12:00:34PM -0700, Eric Murray wrote:
>
> I've also found the source of the wrapped Message-Ids and I'll
> be fixing it soon.
>
>
> Eric
>
That's good news. The duplicated messages were confusing.
-Bill
ue it's Protecting The General Welfare of US homo sapiens,
though of course the real issue is "Mah constituents think it's creepy and
keep rantin' at me about how Ah'd better do something, so of course Ah'll
vote for your bill."
The Equal Protection clause would ev
At 06:50 PM 08/11/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, A. Melon wrote:
> >What is needed, seriously needed right now, is some good, open source
> > surveillance dectection software. Something that would find key-logger
> > software or hardware, something that would check your pho
At 09:30 AM 08/21/2001 -0400, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
>TUESDAY AUGUST 21 2001
>
>Ex-MI6 agent put porn on police computer
>http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001290847,00.html
>
>BY JOANNA BALE
>
>A FORMER MI6 agent is facing prison after he admitted yesterday downloading
>pornographic images o
At 03:31 PM 08/20/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote:
>Eugene wrote:
>
> > and switching to an emission poor system (chucking CRT for LCD
> > would do plenty for starters)
>
>Actually, that won't help you much: emissions from LCD screens can be
>easier to decode than those from monitors. Active matrix LCD
At 10:30 PM 08/22/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>You mean it wasn't like in "The Firm" where all the firms chase after you,
>offering you wads of cash? That's a bit disappointing.
The movie ending was an annoying wimpout compared to the book,
but there were some scenes that they did well,
At 02:54 PM 08/22/2001 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>(and why does a *database* have XML-conversion functions??)
XML's a decent match with tuples, and providing an easily
standardized and malleable data interchange format is not only
an easy thing to bolt on but a potentially big win for usabili
At 07:07 PM 08/22/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote:
>Have you happened to have seen any good papers on constructing do-it-
>yourself cheap, effective, portable shielding? Probably might as well ask
>for the moon too while I'm at it, but it's worth a shot!
Back when I was playing with that technology,
t
>On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote:
> > Many of us don't believe this common belief today, that the First is
> > mainly about political speech, is consistent with the intent of the
> Framers.
If you're talking about tobacco advertising or dirty pictures on the Net,
politicians will tell you "Oh
Bamford's book "Body of Secrets" has a lot of good discussion on
moon-bounce work by the NSA. As Phillip wrote, two of the main
applications were passive eavesdropping on Soviet communucations
(though satellites later did a *much* better job) and
very non-directional communications to/from spy sh
At 04:17 PM 08/04/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>What would be the 'official' crank-up date on the Cypherpunks mailing list
>in 1992? Time for a 10 year anniversary.
Cranks have been up on the list since pretty near the beginning
:-)
At 04:45 AM 08/23/2001 -0700, David Honig wrote:
>Faustine, look up Faraday cages, TEMPEST, and search the archives.
>As if you didn't know. Succinctly, the electron gas in metals shields you
>from the electromagnetic antics of distant, radiating electrons, by
>shorting the
>ripples in the aether
That's rather old news, and was even rather old news when the newspapers
discovered it; the "anarchist protestors" PR spin was just taking advantage
of current events to hook an article on.
Ben Laurie and thebunker.net are well known in cypherpunks circles,
and you'll find a fair bit of discussion
ine - if your reader can't do anything useful to
display it,
it *should* be able to show you the raw message body and let you read around
the junk, just as you'd probably read around PGP signature headers.
Bill
At 08:29 AM 08/04/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>On Sat, 4
This discussion has touched on a variety of topics, some of them at cross
purposes.
If you catch one cop in black ninja gear inside your house, and shoot him,
at least in California, you'll probably have legitimate self-defense claims,
and if he did yell "Police", well, dead men tell no tales.
Sh
Declan - I've found that "Irfanview" is an excellent tool for
reading lots of different graphics formats, including TIFF.
Available at the usual download sites.
At 01:00 PM 08/25/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>John,
>Can you post that in another format? Individual JPGs or GIFs or PDF?
>My v
At 08:11 PM 08/26/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>This said, I wouldn't advise _anyone_ to study "policy"
>(or its earlier incarnations, "Operations Research."
>"Systems Analysis," or the utterly execrable "General Systems," a la
>Bertanlanffy).
Hey, I resemble that remark (Undergrad and Master's de
OK, so it's a bit late, but I was going through recent RISKS Digests.
-
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:23:15 -0700
From: David Chaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Workshop on Trustworthy Elections
26-29 August 2001, Tomales Bay, California: WOTE (Workshop on Trustworthy
Elections) is a small resea
> > BORDERS U.K. USES FACE-RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY TO MONITOR CUSTOMERS
> > Borders Books in the U.K. is employing SmartFace technology to compare
Slashdot is reporting that they've backed off in response
to negative public pressure.
So for the moment you don't need to wear a mask to shop there,
t
Sigh. The FBI buggers convinced Nicky Da Judge to let them slide.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/21296.html
FBI let off cyber snooping hook
By Kieren McCarthy
Posted: 28/08/2001 at 10:41 GMT
The FBI has been let of the hook in its court case against mobster Nicodemo
Scarfo. US Distr
Some Zen Poetry
Choat's Noh Crypto Anarchist
An empty message
At 11:12 PM 08/29/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> --
>
>
> natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato
> sum
http://fyi.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/08/29/stealth.computing/index.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/29/199205&mode=thread
A group of researchers at Notre Dame figured out how to use the
TCP Checksum calculations to get other computers to do number-crunching for
them.
"Belo
The NYT and USA Today both have articles about the
Customs busting two US Chinese guys for exporting US military crypto gear.
It's the KIV-7HS, made by our old buddies at Mykotronx (who made Clipper.)
The NYT said the Feds were worried that if the Chinese reverse engineered it,
they'd be able to c
On the domestic spying front, USA Today has an editorial
disapproving of the FBI's Scarfo wiretap, and an editorial response
by Edward Allen, former FBI deputy assistant director (the FBI can't
reply directly because of the judge's gag order.) The FBI front
says predictable things about how the F
At 06:41 PM 08/30/2001 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
>Gale http://www.gale.org/ seems a well thought out infrastructure. Is the
>consensus "this is it", or have I missed any alternatives?
Jabber seems to be emerging as the main cross-ISP instant messaging platform.
I'm not sure how much security it
At 08:00 PM 08/19/2001 -1000, Reese wrote:
>We assume the lamerz posting "h3lp m3 m4k3 b0mZ" queries are LEA's
>trolling, but are they? Is posting bomb recipes a violation of
>some applicable law? If so, what law? If not, why do we assume
>those to be LEA trolls, and not some hopeless wank or k
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> Thanks! Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cell +1-415-307-7119.
>Dave Del Torto, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
e anti-videosurveillance
struggle is the most visible at the moment.
List of participating groups:
http://www.notbored.org/7s01.html
EFF's action alert:
http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010831_surveil_cam_alert.html
Contacts:
Bill Brown, Surveillan
At 11:46 PM 09/06/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote to the Cypherpunks list
> http://slashdot.org/yro/01/09/07/0048215.shtml
It's an outrageous story.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010906/us/business_raided_2.html
http://www.middleeastwire.com/newswire/stories/20010905_meno.shtml
http://www.txcn.
INteresting exchange from cyberia-l.
Mark was online earlier, and sent an article saying
Try NYC traffic cams: http://nyctmc.org/xbrooklyn.asp
>Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Ronald D. Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: Gibney, Anth
>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:28:52 -0400
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: FC: Terrorists attack World Trade Center and Pentagon
>Sender: [EMAIL P
At 10:22 AM 09/11/2001 -0400, Seth Finkelstein wrote:
> "Warren E. Agin"
> > I've been trying to get on a newsite, but abc.com, abcnews.com,
> > nbc.com, msnbc.com, cbs.com, foxnews.com and boston.com are all having
> > problems. Yahoo and MSN are up.
>
> I can attest that boston.com is f
apparently two planes crashed into the World Trade Center,
and the top of one tower is gone.
another either crashed the pentagon or bombed it.
airports all closed.
>Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Stephen T. Middlebrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject:
At 10:48 AM 09/11/2001 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
>Everything's just slashdotted. Forget the Internet, this
>is television's game, or try the radio (shortwave or
>domestic).
even Akamai is slashdotted Here's the SF article printer-friendly version;
sorry about the formatting.
Planes crash in
At 10:29 PM 09/15/2001 +0200, Anonymous Coredump wrote:
>Plans for the renovation of the Pentagon are being discussed on C-Span
>right now. Interesting sound-bites. Costs of replacing the Pentagon vs.
>rebuilding are the current topic.
>
>The URL for the project reports a 500 error currently:
>htt
At 07:28 PM 09/15/2001 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
> > I agree with this. The Twin Towers should be built bigger than before
> > (twice as big if it's feasible). I know some people would be scared
> > to have office space in there, but that's fine, because people who are
> > not scared will take
> > > Too bad that the infrastructure to successfully implement AP isn't in
> > > place. That $5mil reward for Bin Laden's head could be used by an FBI AP
> > > scheme, payable anonymously over the net to enterprising Afghanis.
> >
> > AP is a silly, unworkable idea. However, $5,000,000 PLUS the
Seems like Code Red or one of its little friends is back.
I think breaking up Microsoft is a bad idea,
but there are days it would be nice to have their
Web Server and Email Worm-Propagators run by companies
other than the operating system company just so fewer people
would be running that danger
At 04:29 PM 09/23/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>On Sunday, September 23, 2001, at 04:25 PM, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>>on Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 07:35:58AM -0400, Steve Furlong
>>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>>Karsten M. Self wrote:
...neatly sidestepping the fact that fraud is a crime, stupidity is
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/23/2235219&mode=thread
Most of it's not very deep...
> > will you divest?
> yes
Two months ago would have been better :-)
http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/navigation/mainFrameSet/0,4528,529|3283,00.html
They've gone from about 20 to 10.7
FYI.
-Bill
777 --- 777 777 --- 777
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
-- Forwarded Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:35:02 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTE
A system like this would certainly make sure that if you
walk into an airport, and say that you're Larry Ellison,
and want to take off in your private jet during evening quiet hours,
or your flight plan says you'll arrive at your destination
during that airport's evening quiet hours,
the airport w
At 03:10 PM 09/23/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Bill Stewart wrote:
> > It is bait and switch, but the argument is that if the
> > cops have keys to the house of the guy who drove the car into yours,
> > they can go see if he's got any co-conspirato
At 01:32 PM 09/23/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>On Sunday, September 23, 2001, at 12:31 PM, Bill Stewart wrote:
>
>>Was that Saturday's paper, or Sunday's? What page? It's not in the on-line.
>>
>>Anybody want to start boycott-oracle.org? :-)
>
&g
At 12:26 PM 09/20/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>Somebody should impeach this asshole...
>
>http://www.theadvocate.com/news/story.asp?StoryID=24605
>
>--
WASHINGTON U.S. Rep. John Cooksey, R-Monroe,
told a network of Louisiana radio stations Monday that
someone "weari
> >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 02:13:47 -0700
> >Subject: there is no Keyser Soze
> >From: Faisal Jawdat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320012-2001330486,00.html
> >
> > Article too long for me to meaningfully excerpt from.
CJ's one of the more colorful fiction writers on the list
At 05:00 PM 09/26/2001 -0400, Elyn Wollensky wrote:
>WTF is this?
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, September
ated software applications, to online stores, to
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Somebody on the list, promoting a total boycott of Oracle,
quoted Larry Ellison as saying:
>"We need a database behind that, so when you're walking into an airport
>and you say that you are Larry Ellison, you take that card and put it
>in a reader and you put your thumb down and that system confir
itely over the years :-)
At 08:48 PM 10/01/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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>From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: FC: Congress drafts new "anti-terror" bill -- with expirati
Another useful stopgap is the dynamic DNS providers,
such as dyndns.org, which give you a third-level domain
and convenient tools for updating your information.
They're oriented towards the dial/dsl/cablemodem users
who want to run web sites and other servers from
machines that have dynamic IP add
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