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2000-06-08 Thread Kevin Elliott
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2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-12 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-23 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Kevin Elliott
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2000-07-25 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: Fw: Congress breaks another Constitutional Amendment?

2000-07-26 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: Wired News : FBI Gives a Little on Carnivore

2000-07-26 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 11:59 -0400 9/19/00, Matt Elliott wrote: >>would not affect my position one bit. These people have the right >>for their information to be put into the public forum. > >One small correction Kevin, they have the right to put their information >into their own public fo

Re: one time pad and random num gen

2000-10-02 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: CDR: Re: Shunning, lesbians and liberty

2000-10-02 Thread Kevin Elliott
ere is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- Justice William O. Douglas ___

Re: Here's an interesting twist on gun control ...

2000-11-06 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: Confusion about Free Speech

2001-03-03 Thread Kevin Elliott
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2001-12-03 Thread Kevin Fu
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2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Murphy
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2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Murphy
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RE: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-08-01 Thread Wall, Kevin
the normal and generally expected functionality. Which would mean that if I put in my own copy of a audio CD that I burned for a backout copy, it should play the audio CD without any loss of quality rather than telling me that I have a pirated copy and that it's going to report me to MPAA or RIAA. However, I'm not going into any advantages or disadvantages. For the most part, I agree with Ross and David not because what they state necessarily is the intent of the TCPA or Palladium today, but because I believe that in general both humans and therefore human corporations are in essence greedy and seedy (not necessarily in that order). Of course, I have to add that I speak for myself (most of the time; sometimes my lips just move but some other voices come out ;) rather than for my company. Etc. -kevin wall

RE: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-08-01 Thread Wall, Kevin
t OS? That will go over like a lead balloon. (Gee... must be getting late. I almost wrote "like a bag of dirt". Duh! Can't even remember cliches at my age.) -kevin wall P.S.- Please excuse the sh*t formating. We use Lookout! and MS Exstrange where I work.

RE: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-10-01 Thread Wall, Kevin
o not use the derogatory term 'sheeple'... you're going to give sheep a bad name. --- Kevin W. Wall Qwest Information Technology, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: 614.932.5542 "I can hardly wait until we get quantum computers. Then we really *will* have to worry about Heisenbugs."

Re: Did you *really* zeroize that key?

2002-11-07 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: "Emergency Coercive Unit"

2002-11-13 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's ne

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 13:14 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote: On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:02 pm, Kevin Elliott wrote: > Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we > succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new form of > warfare". The

Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. W ho's ne

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 14:11 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote: On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:57 pm, Trei, Peter wrote: > > Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we > > succeeded in the revolutionary war b

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RE: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. W ho's ne

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 15:57 -0500 on 11/19/02, Trei, Peter wrote: Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new form of warfare". The reality is that the british were marching in form

Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's ne

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
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Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
card I've ever gotten they've said "here's your card and application, please fill out the application and mail it in". I say "thank you ma'am", walk out the door and toss the "application" in the trash. Not exactly strong (or any) name linka

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote: On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
mpting to be >more polite, so I will say "Am I missing something in your analysis?" My oh my. Getting an early start on your new years resolution? -- ___ Kevin Elliott <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ#23758827 AIM ID: teargo ___

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:58 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote: | At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: | >Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a | >credit card with the name Shostack, and an e

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Re: Senators from Utah being Southern

2003-06-20 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: Sorry, wrong again. Hatch is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, LDS, aka Mormon. Not an actual Christian church. Details available with Google. Basically, Jesus is no more a divine figure in LDS than in Islam. In fact, LDS and Islam share a number of th

Question on Mixmaster

2003-01-13 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
I've known about Mixmaster for years, but only just now finally downloaded and installed it (Mixmaster 2.9.0). Does anyone know where I can find documentation on how to actually use it? The distribution (from Sourceforge) contains no documentation whatsoever beyond a *very* terse man page tha

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: No policy toward anyone isn't possible once there's any kind of contact. There are terrorists who'd want to do nasty things to us for simply allowing global trade, or for allowing trade with repressive regimes like Saudi Arabia or Nigeria, or for selling weapons to countri

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
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Re: DoD badly protected web form lets "users" administer .mil domain names.

2003-01-25 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Care to register a .mil Web site of your own for free? The DoD has gone out of its way to make it a snap. [...] That's great. How about "kill-iraqis-regardless.mil" or "want-to-buy-some-oil-in-iraq.mil" or "we-lust-for-another-war.mil" I think your aim is off here. It's the politicians and pol

Re: Gullible Journalists

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tyler Durden wrote: "For some reason I've never been able to fathom, many journalists seem to be remarkably gullable, when they're told something from the right kind of source, especially a government agency or other official source." Chomsky (dig around on http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm) and

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: The negro is transforming himself into a gutter race. Which ones? I see a very different pattern of behavior in some other parts of the world.

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: Swahili was the language they took to meet the minimal foreign language requirements. This sounds like the one worthwhile course in the bunch. One may learn a foreign language in order to be able to read important literary, historical, philosophical, or scientific works in oth

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: It goes beyond just the "black leaders" thing--it's also about "black pride." My eye-opening experience was my arrival in college (as Brits would say, "at university") in 1970. Well, this post explains a lot about Tim's attitude. Myself, I never ran into this kind of crap in

Re: Police state, plainclothes pigs need to die

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Major Variola (ret) wrote: Girl driving in car is attacked by men in car and tries to escape the attack. The men are pigs (DEA, of course) out of uniform in unmarked car. She is shot in head. Pigs will get away with this, of course. She was Mexican, lower class, in Texas, so expendable. Donal

Re: Ethnomathematics

2003-02-24 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Anonymous wrote: Ethnomathematics Good lord, this sounds like it was practically designed to sabotage the prospects for minorities to excel in mathematics, by encouraging them to waste their efforts on nonsense and useless trivia.

Re: One Man Against the World

2003-02-23 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
I've been reading DiLorenzo's book, _The Real Lincoln_, and this description is a pretty close fit to Abraham Lincoln, too. Eric Cordian wrote: --- A great, civilized nation democratically elected a fanatic demagogue, who preached war. Actually, he did not really receive the majority of votes, b

Re: Someone explain...Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tyler Durden wrote: Let's take one of my famous extreme examples. Let's say a section of the New Jersey Turnpike gets turned over to a private company, which now owns and operates this section. So...now let's say I'm black. NO! Let's say I'm blond-haired and blue eyed, and the asshole in the s

Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: The better way to frame the question: May a private property owner legally exclude people from it? Seems to me the answer should be, as a general rule, yes Absolutely yes, except for the fact that malls have invited the public in, Are you saying that if I invite people to a p

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
david wrote: But you wouldn't mind if insurance companies required the device in order for you to get a policy (whether or not it called the police or just the insurance company) ? Right ? If I did mind, I'd just find a different insurance company. It's a little bit harder for me to say, "I don

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: Encouraging the imperial persecution of a religious minority? Well, it looks at this point that it would have been a reasonable trade-off, given the millions who have been tortured and murdered in Europe and the Americas since the Council of Nicea in 425 by the offspring of t

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: but it sure seems like it would be unhealthy to be one of the people shooting at the helicopters in that situation--like a bunch of people shooting at a lion with .22 pistols or something. Even if you eventually drive the helicopter off, it's going to leave a big pile of b

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: I think there was some complicated argument about the Taliban not being a legitimate government, What's a legitimate government? One with enough firepower to make its rule stick?

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: And what makes you think things would have been any better in the absence of Christianity? You've heard of the Inquistion perhaps? The Catholic Church (which carried out the Inquisition, in cooperation with various governments) is not the whole of Christianity. There are

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: But of course, the problems really pre-date all that, going back to when the christer Romans came and killed off the Druids and Wiccans who wouldn't bend the knee to conversion, as they did in the rest of Europe. You are completely and utterly wrong here. The Romans never

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Damian Gerow wrote: I can only see two reasons for bombing with nuclear weapons: hate and stupidity. That being said, you'd have to *really* hate someone (or an entire country) to actually /use/ a nuclear weapon. That's nonsense. I can think of several entirely ethical uses of nuclear weapons,

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