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Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

2004-08-04 Thread "Hal Finney"
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Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

2004-08-04 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 11:04:15AM -0700, "Hal Finney" wrote: [...] > The system will consume 10^25 * 60 nanowatts or about 6 * 10^17 watts. > Now, that's a lot. It's four times what the earth receives from the sun. > So we have to build a disk four times the area (not volume) of the earth, > co

Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

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2004-08-04 Thread Adam Back
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Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

2004-08-04 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Hal Finney wrote: > As you can see, breaking 128 bit keys is certainly not a task which is > so impossible that it would fail even if every atom were a computer. > If we really needed to do it, it's not outside the realm of possibility > that it could be accomplished within 50

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Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

2004-08-04 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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Re: On what the NSA does with its tech

2004-08-04 Thread Morlock Elloi
>The impracticability of breaking symmetric ciphers is only a >comparatively small part of the overall problem. I see that "it can be done only by brute farce" myth is live and well. Hint: all major cryptanalytic advances, where governments broke a cypher and general public found out few *decades